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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Or maybe we can afford to own a nice car, have fantastic holidays, own bikes and boats and live a great life in our young years?........

That does make me a smart fox then doesn't it........
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Ha ha no part i own is in a catalogue from Halfords but thanks for the sentiment .

You spend money on holidays and all that other crap, we are car enthusiasts we enjoy cars, we dont care about depreciation in the same light you dont care of the money you blew on a week's worth of memories on a beach, what we have is for life
If you're a car enthusiast why did you buy a bugeye? You plan to keep the bugeye for life? Or were you commenting that poor taste in cars is a bit like AIDS and you'll have it till you die?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
Or maybe we can afford to own a nice car, have fantastic holidays, own bikes and boats and live a great life in our young years?........

That does make me a smart fox then doesn't it........
The problem with that statement is that you own a bugeye which isn't a nice car.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
What I mentioned was you and the other 'bugeye bummer' sticking your members in alloys mouth.
Again maturity at the forefront of rabies argument. I cant belive this guy thinks name calling and slander are going to get to me or anyone else, not on a bbs . I'd love to meet you in the real world, i'm sure your tone would be a great deal more subdued
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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If you're a car enthusiast why did you buy a bugeye? You plan to keep the bugeye for life? Or were you commenting that poor taste in cars is a bit like AIDS and you'll have it till you die?
No if you read the thread, i sold the M3 and looked at scoobs, I didn't much appreciate the interior of the classics, and the bulky nose of the blob eye wasn't to my satisfaction so i chose a bugeye that had pleasing lines to my eyes and a solid base so i could achieve what i wanted to from the car
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Again maturity at the forefront of rabies argument. I cant belive this guy thinks name calling and slander are going to get to me or anyone else, not on a bbs . I'd love to meet you in the real world, i'm sure your tone would be a great deal more subdued
I'm flattered at your offer of meeting in the 'real world' but I'm not up for any bumfun, maybe you and cripple'og could arrange something though?

The name calling isn't designed to get to you, I don't need to get to you. You make yourself look like a **** every time you get in that abomination of a car you created.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Again maturity at the forefront of rabies argument. I cant belive this guy thinks name calling and slander are going to get to me or anyone else, not on a bbs . I'd love to meet you in the real world, i'm sure your tone would be a great deal more subdued
Anyone can be Mike Tyson behind a keyboard and say what they like

Oh can you hear that its PsLewis
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Anyone can be Mike Tyson behind a keyboard and say what they like

Oh can you hear that its PsLewis
Agreed comments like- "I'd love to meet you in the real world, i'm sure your tone would be a great deal more subdued". Are the sort of thing some bed wetting spod would come out with.
Maybe he's right though and I would be more subdued the spectacle of a grown man p1ssing himself isn't something I'd relish.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Agreed comments like- "I'd love to meet you in the real world, i'm sure your tone would be a great deal more subdued". Are the sort of thing some bed wetting spod would come out with.
Maybe he's right though and I would be more subdued the spectacle of a grown man p1ssing himself isn't something I'd relish.
He's been polite and freindly you've just been unpolite and rude
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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wasnt this thread supposed to be about mg zs ?

i dont really understand ??so triple og has a fast car that a zs could never hope to race ,well so what theres always a faster car somewhere
i have already said it but i have never known anyone wanting to imitate a scooby wth their zs ,i think in fact its the subaru owners who come up with this in their heads because they dont like the fact that a zs in blue looks a little like their scooby to the untrained eye. I would happily go on track with any uk standard wrz or classic turbo but you would only see me about once every ten minutes as i came round to lap you,my zs lapped combe in 1.26 repeatedly on standard brakes ,suspension ,tyres etc with just a full zorst and induction on my first ever track day,just because a car is a few years old doesnt mean it cant be great.There are many cars a few years old that with a little tinkering can become real track day greats ,the 205 gti for example.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Who are you calling a bugeye bummer? Was that addressed to me? I wont be getting nasty on here behind a keyboard so just let me know if that was directed at me please.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Finest FWD chassis ever produced

So your saying its in the top 5 best FWD cars ever?



I dont see how you could say this car has a better chassis than that of a impreza STI.

I did not say it was one of the 5 best FWD cars ever. I said, and it is true, that it has one of the best FWD chassis ever. You might think it makes you look big and clever to knock Rover and in many aspects you would be right, but the chassis engineers certainly polished a turd when it came to the ZS' chassis.

Congratulations btw for the only post of yours I've ever seen that didn't suffer from retarded schoolboy spelling and grammar. Makes the whole experience that much more pleasurable.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
but the chassis engineers certainly polished a turd when it came to the ZS' chassis.
Spot on again

there is no doubt that th ZS it is a decent car, it's styling however is there to mimic the scoob and the evo, both of which are in some form a rally descendent. I'm not saying that they a rally cars, they are far from it however that is where their breeding has stemmed from hence the wing, flared arches, 2litre turbo lumps, awd etc. The ZS however is not a rally descendent and the cosmetic attributes aren't deserved or synonymous with the brand.

Rabid: please get your head around the fact there are bugeye owners out there and they love their cars, like their are x5 owners out there that love theirs. Each with a different criteria for their needs catered for by their choice in car. Your petty abuse has no place on what we want to be a civilised car discussion.

MG Driver: I am sure the ZS is very adaptable at being a track day car, all the best with your chosen path . There are faster cars and there are better handling cars but like you chose the ZS as your motor, I have chosen an STi and we both will encounter better and worse cars during our respective ownerships. I have no grief with MG's, rover however dont get me started on
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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ZS is a great car for the money IMO.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Thats was the point I was trying to get across however alloy just explained it better....

there is no doubt that th ZS it is a decent car, it's styling however is there to mimic the scoob and the evo, both of which are in some form a rally descendent. I'm not saying that they a rally cars, they are far from it however that is where their breeding has stemmed from hence the wing, flared arches, 2litre turbo lumps, awd etc. The ZS however is not a rally descendent and the cosmetic attributes aren't deserved or synonymous with the brand
Like I said ZS drivers, don't get touchy....and mg driver read my post again.
This thread was me saying not to compare to mine......You'd have to spend a lot of money to get close to me on a track.......

Bored or repeating myself now......
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
You'd have to spend a lot of money to get close to me on a track.......
Hmmmm. Fancy a go one day? At the Castle Coombe action day on 22nd by any chance? I'll be in a white Citroen AX if you're feeling brave
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Was I talking to you?

I was talking about a "tuned" zs......
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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come on tripple, a meer AX against your almighty Scoob, should be a walk in the park



I'll see you down their MooseRacer
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Tripple obviously fears the mighty gallic beast
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Don't you start......first davey and his clio and now an ax?

This thread has gone from, stop pulling next to me and "trying" to give me a run cause you honestly don't have a chance (not being c0cky, it's just plain fact) to bring it on against my ax

I fear nothing!!
apart from understeer.......ahem
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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So we going to venture down and let actions speak louder than words?

MooseRacer doesn't even what equal power or a head start ....
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Rabid: please get your head around the fact there are bugeye owners out there and they love their cars, like their are x5 owners out there that love theirs. Each with a different criteria for their needs catered for by their choice in car. Your petty abuse has no place on what we want to be a civilised car discussion.
There's a Vauxhall Vectra owners club full of people who love their cars as well. It doesn't make them any good though. I find it laughable that you say petty abuse has no part in a 'civilised car discussion' judging by your past record and the fact my inbox is spammed up with your whining messages.

Anyway back on topic I'm starting to think that maybe cripple'og really hasn't got a clue. A bugeye STI is categorically not a good track day car, it's AWD for a start, is to heavy and understeers like a bitch. A ZS would have you for breakfast and spit out the leavings. An AX would be more than capable of humiliating you as well, you obviously know nothing.
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Yellow belly
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm

Why not

Mouse racer has only got for legs.....i've got 350 horses
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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whatcha reckon Alloy? Thats alot of horses
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid
Anyway back on topic I'm starting to think that maybe cripple'og really hasn't got a clue. A bugeye STI is categorically not a good track day car, it's AWD for a start, is to heavy and understeers like a bitch. A ZS would have you for breakfast and spit out the leavings. An AX would be more than capable of humiliating you as well, you obviously know nothing.
No sir, you have not seen a well setup car then, mine never understeers!
Understeer is a result of moronic drivers not appreciating the dynamics of the vehicles and believing that awd will go round any corner without braking. I think you'll find awd is great round a track, look at the Tsbuka time attack cars
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
whatcha reckon Alloy? Thats alot of horses
I reckon it's gonna be close 350 with awd losses could see your AX come into play . It'll be a decent fixture with driver capacity coming into play on both counts ........... I wouldn't like to call it
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Originally Posted by Rabid
There's a Vauxhall Vectra owners club full of people who love their cars as well. It doesn't make them any good though.
There is no good or bad, just peoples opinions...
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Spankathon
There is no good or bad, just peoples opinions...
Thats it exactly Finally some sense
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Spankathon
There is no good or bad, just peoples opinions...
I disagree- some things are objectively bad.


Vauxhall Vectra MK1- a badly designed car, that drove badly and was brought down further by being driven largely by company car drivers who drove like idiots in it giving it an image lower than a paedophile with a puppy killing fetish.

Alfa Arna- a datsun cherry with italian electrics- a well known, widely accepted disaster of a car.

Morris Ital- it's a marina with italian design flair- actually it doesn't have ANY design flair.


Bugeye Impreza- brought in to replace the succesful 'classic' Impreza the bugeye failed by dint of looking like an old toyota corrola (but not as handsome) and being slower than the model it replaced. EVO had these figured at nearly 19 seconds to 100. Subaru killed it off prematurely to save face and bring back some sales.

Some things are just ****.
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