Vote - best tyre brand/model
18 May 2006, 07:42 PM
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I need to replace my RE050's on my 05 WRX following a track day last weekend. The cars done 10k miles in total & the tyres were holding up very well - c.5mm front & 6 mm rear.
However after 100 hard trackday (Elvington) miles, the front are totally rogered - down to 3mm with bald shoulders! The backs are still relatively unscathed.
I've decided to replace all 4 & keep the Bridgeys for another track day. Looking at the votes, the Goodyear Eagke F1's seem to be the pick of the bunch - I've found them for £79.70 each mail order with the Toyo T1-Rs at £82.00 a corner. Do you think this is a good deal & which do you think I should go for. I really want a tyre that performs well, is less noisy than the RE050's & will last well.
Cheers
Jonesy
I need to replace my RE050's on my 05 WRX following a track day last weekend. The cars done 10k miles in total & the tyres were holding up very well - c.5mm front & 6 mm rear.
However after 100 hard trackday (Elvington) miles, the front are totally rogered - down to 3mm with bald shoulders! The backs are still relatively unscathed.
I've decided to replace all 4 & keep the Bridgeys for another track day. Looking at the votes, the Goodyear Eagke F1's seem to be the pick of the bunch - I've found them for £79.70 each mail order with the Toyo T1-Rs at £82.00 a corner. Do you think this is a good deal & which do you think I should go for. I really want a tyre that performs well, is less noisy than the RE050's & will last well.
Cheers
Jonesy
19 May 2006, 06:52 PM
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I've found them for £79.70 each mail order with the Toyo T1-Rs at £82.00 a corner.
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
with bald shoulders!
19 May 2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic37
coolgrey sti made the following contribution (copied from general board):
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Vredestein Ultrac, not widely available but what a brilliant tyre. Better than the Avon ZZ3s I had before and they were good. The Ultrac is so grippy in the dry and just cuts through wet roads. Anyone else tried them ?
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Vredestein Ultrac, not widely available but what a brilliant tyre. Better than the Avon ZZ3s I had before and they were good. The Ultrac is so grippy in the dry and just cuts through wet roads. Anyone else tried them ?
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20 May 2006, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Samson
These are good prices, epsecially the Goodyears - where have you seen them for £79.70?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
Prices are from www.elitedirect.com - saw an ad in Autocar - going to order the F1's from them today - over £10 cheaper per tyre than blackcircles
05 September 2006, 04:29 PM
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Had Goodyear F1s (GSD2) on my old 2000MY scoob and they lasted for ages (sold the car after they had done 20k and they still had loads of grip), plus they were great in the wet and the dry. Only other rubber I had was the OE Bridgestones which, knowing no different at the time, I thought were OK, especially coupled with such an explosive car! Boy was I in for a surprise when I put the F1s on.
Sadly I have since read that the GSD3s are susceptible to splitting, which isn't such good news as now I am back in the land of Scooby-Goodness I would love to get another set of these but not so sure now. It does seem that the 17"s (and higher) seem to be the ones most likely to split but still doesn't instill confidence.
My ex-wife had an MX-5 which I encouraged her to put Toyo T1-s on and they were a nightmare - very poor in the wet and gave way with no warning. A lot of fun when no other cars about but not so great when going round a 'bout at 15 and fighting to keep it on the road! Don't even get me started on the fact that she needed 4 new ones after only about 10k miles when my GSD2s were still going strong!!
Sadly I have since read that the GSD3s are susceptible to splitting, which isn't such good news as now I am back in the land of Scooby-Goodness I would love to get another set of these but not so sure now. It does seem that the 17"s (and higher) seem to be the ones most likely to split but still doesn't instill confidence.
My ex-wife had an MX-5 which I encouraged her to put Toyo T1-s on and they were a nightmare - very poor in the wet and gave way with no warning. A lot of fun when no other cars about but not so great when going round a 'bout at 15 and fighting to keep it on the road! Don't even get me started on the fact that she needed 4 new ones after only about 10k miles when my GSD2s were still going strong!!
05 September 2006, 05:15 PM
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I have heard very mixed reviews on the Toyos ... I for instance hate them, but I know others that love them. One of the differences seems to be wheel size ... on 17's naff, on 18's good ?
05 September 2006, 07:10 PM
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Yes, the Toyo's seem to be different on different cars. Over on the RX8 forums the T1R is considered to be useless, I recall a thread that lumped Toyo's together with brands like Matador. They love their Bridgestone RE040's. That's on 18's by the way.
Once I tried some RE040's on the Scoob and they were definitely useless... while the wife's RX8 does seem to like them.
Once I tried some RE040's on the Scoob and they were definitely useless... while the wife's RX8 does seem to like them.
06 September 2006, 04:54 PM
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Have run the OEM Bridgestones, Goodyear F1s ( both GSD2 & GSD3 ), Toyo T1-S and T1-Rs as well as some Nankang NS-2s!! ( they came fitted on some wheels... )
Have to say I found the Goodyears by far the best.
Have to say I found the Goodyears by far the best.
14 September 2006, 12:35 PM
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SCOOBY TYRE VOTING UPDATE
Votes summary after 163 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 40 votes in favour, 2 against (40/42=95%)
TOYO T1R - 21 votes in favour, 2 vote against (21/23=91%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 13 votes in favour (13/13 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 7 votes in favour (7/7=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 10 votes in favour, 1 vote against (10/11=91%)
VREDESTEIN Ultrac - 4 votes in favour (4/4=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada 2 - 4 votes in favour (4/4=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
DUNLOP Sport - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
DUNLOP SP9000 - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
VREDESTEIN Sportrac - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
CONTINENTAL Contisport Contact 2 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE050 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE010 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
NOKIAN NRZi XL - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
MARANGONI Zeta Linea - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
TOYO R888 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
KUMHO V70A - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BF GOODRICH - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
TOYO T1S - 8 vote in favour, 4 votes against (8/12=67%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour, 1 against (2/3=67%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 5 vote in favour, 3 votes against (5/8=63%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 4 vote in favour, 8 votes against (4/12=33%)
YOKOHAMA 539 - 2 vote against (0/2=0%)
MARSHALL - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
FALKEN 512 - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 40 votes in favour, 2 against (40/42=95%)
TOYO T1R - 21 votes in favour, 2 vote against (21/23=91%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 13 votes in favour (13/13 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 7 votes in favour (7/7=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 10 votes in favour, 1 vote against (10/11=91%)
VREDESTEIN Ultrac - 4 votes in favour (4/4=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada 2 - 4 votes in favour (4/4=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
DUNLOP Sport - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
DUNLOP SP9000 - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
VREDESTEIN Sportrac - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
CONTINENTAL Contisport Contact 2 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE050 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE010 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
NOKIAN NRZi XL - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
MARANGONI Zeta Linea - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
TOYO R888 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
KUMHO V70A - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BF GOODRICH - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
TOYO T1S - 8 vote in favour, 4 votes against (8/12=67%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour, 1 against (2/3=67%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 5 vote in favour, 3 votes against (5/8=63%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 4 vote in favour, 8 votes against (4/12=33%)
YOKOHAMA 539 - 2 vote against (0/2=0%)
MARSHALL - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
FALKEN 512 - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
14 September 2006, 12:36 PM
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I took the advice of this thread and bought a set of Goodyear Eagle F1s. I think I have driven on them long enough to give them a big thumbs up. 
14 September 2006, 12:58 PM
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Now that they're bedded in, thumbs up for my Avon ZZ3's. Good grip in the dry and very confidence inspiring in the wet.
15 September 2006, 12:46 PM
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good year eagle f1 excellent in wet or dry ive had 3 sets of them
pzero are good in the dry but are cr@p in the wet first tyres with my scooby
toyo t1s are good in the dry but ok in the wet not as good as the f1s kept wheel spining them on my civic vti
pzero are good in the dry but are cr@p in the wet first tyres with my scooby
toyo t1s are good in the dry but ok in the wet not as good as the f1s kept wheel spining them on my civic vti
15 September 2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Samson
These are good prices, epsecially the Goodyears - where have you seen them for £79.70?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
all the geometry is set correctly and is not out. so i am a little miffed
15 September 2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Samson
These are good prices, epsecially the Goodyears - where have you seen them for £79.70?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
I've been quoted £90 fitted for Toyo and £100 fitted for Goodyear.
Interesting as my RE050s have gone badly on the outside edges but the inside edges are fine. I wonder is this is common?
steve
15 September 2006, 01:51 PM
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I am looking for a place that sells Bridgestone RE070 225/45/ZR17. anyone know one around Surrey?
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
15 September 2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebennett
I am looking for a place that sells Bridgestone RE070 225/45/ZR17. anyone know one around Surrey?
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
15 September 2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebennett
I am looking for a place that sells Bridgestone RE070 225/45/ZR17. anyone know one around Surrey?
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
I am assuming that i can squeeze these on standard newage rims existing tyre size 215/45/17 I know the rolling diameter will change as the ratio is going to be 45% of 225 not 215 but it should not make that much difference??
Steve
Use the Toyo web site, it has a calculator for various tyre diameter / width / profiles to help get the closest rolling radius.
15 September 2006, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mark6
Can i ask the reason why you would want to fit 225/45-17 instead of the standard size the chassis is designed for??
I am looking a doing a couple of track day in the coming weeks and looking at a set of RE070 they only come in 225's The tyres are standard fit on STi and wanted to gove them a go. I have got a second set of wheel coming which will have Goodyear F1's for the winter
15 September 2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Try 40 profile ?
Use the Toyo web site, it has a calculator for various tyre diameter / width / profiles to help get the closest rolling radius.
Use the Toyo web site, it has a calculator for various tyre diameter / width / profiles to help get the closest rolling radius.
16 September 2006, 07:04 PM
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I see your point if you want to run on the re070's,it's just when you start fitting wider tyres like that you are messing around with the balance of the car.
Your not only laying down more rubber but also raising the profile of the tyre,which can lead to more sway in the sidewall,which can then affect the tightness of the handling.To be honest though those re070 have such stiff sidewall's that i can't really see it been noticeable,just make sure you get familiar with the handling with those tyres on before you take it on the track.
And have fun!!
Your not only laying down more rubber but also raising the profile of the tyre,which can lead to more sway in the sidewall,which can then affect the tightness of the handling.To be honest though those re070 have such stiff sidewall's that i can't really see it been noticeable,just make sure you get familiar with the handling with those tyres on before you take it on the track.
And have fun!!
16 September 2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ricardo
Yes, the Toyo's seem to be different on different cars. Over on the RX8 forums the T1R is considered to be useless, I recall a thread that lumped Toyo's together with brands like Matador. They love their Bridgestone RE040's. That's on 18's by the way.
Once I tried some RE040's on the Scoob and they were definitely useless... while the wife's RX8 does seem to like them.
Once I tried some RE040's on the Scoob and they were definitely useless... while the wife's RX8 does seem to like them.
Goodyear F1s don't seem to suit the RX8, but I ran them on my Scoobs and they were great.
My vote would still go for the T1-R as an all round tyre though.
16 September 2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by T20Driver
I have heard very mixed reviews on the Toyos ... I for instance hate them, but I know others that love them. One of the differences seems to be wheel size ... on 17's naff, on 18's good ?
very proggresive on hard corners in the dry or the wet ! they have never let me down
17 September 2006, 02:15 PM
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OE Bridgestones on the other half's 01 wagon were average at best. Replaced with Toyo T1-S (17") and they were a huge improvement. I went to T1-S on my 03 WRX and they were again better than OE but wore quickly (may have something to do with the way I drive....) and soon had to be replaced. Went for Goodyear GSD3 F1 (18") and they were SOOO much better than the Toyo T1-S. Better in standing water, and lots more grip all round. Awe inspiring in the wet with much better lateral grip. A lot quicker for me in the twisties as they're not at all 'twitchy' like the Toyos were.
20 September 2006, 01:29 PM
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Toyo T1-R for me on for about a year now still going strong after 10K+ miles fantastic grip, wet, etc may have to try those Goodyears though. The Bridgestones ones just wheel spinned all the time.
20 September 2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by andy_mac
i have the t1r's on my 17s and they are cool ! although i have 215/40 and am moving up to 215/45 for a bit more depth
ps .. do you think I used the word different too much ? Don't answer that !!