week of fun
thanks Chaz
ok RCM still not got back to me, and I have chased it a few times, so I had a trip out to API today
as usual David has talked me through a load of options but i must admit i do like the sound of going 2.5 and with all the recent good comments of how well the 2.5s are going with the md321T and being a superb road car
i am very tempted with
2.5 block, rods, pistons, race bearings
heads , sti 5 cams, uprated springs & valves all polished up and flow tested
get rid of the tumblers and fit sti 8 inlet manifold
braided fuel line running in parallel
p20 housing
ppg gear set
if I was to incraese the fuel pressure of the 650's would they run 450bhp ? and would i be better of moving to a bosh fuel pump at this level
ok RCM still not got back to me, and I have chased it a few times, so I had a trip out to API today
as usual David has talked me through a load of options but i must admit i do like the sound of going 2.5 and with all the recent good comments of how well the 2.5s are going with the md321T and being a superb road car
i am very tempted with
2.5 block, rods, pistons, race bearings
heads , sti 5 cams, uprated springs & valves all polished up and flow tested
get rid of the tumblers and fit sti 8 inlet manifold
braided fuel line running in parallel
p20 housing
ppg gear set
if I was to incraese the fuel pressure of the 650's would they run 450bhp ? and would i be better of moving to a bosh fuel pump at this level
I am currently at this level 440/480 (not for long though
) and am still running the walbro 255...Joe.....
terry
I would be sticking with the rcm turbo, not going to a md321t but im guessing the difference can't be huge ... or am I very wrong ?
if the turbo manifold etc wasn't so new I would be thinking about going for a twisted setup
jonjo, Neil, cheers I can scatch something of the ever increasing list
I would be sticking with the rcm turbo, not going to a md321t but im guessing the difference can't be huge ... or am I very wrong ?
if the turbo manifold etc wasn't so new I would be thinking about going for a twisted setup
jonjo, Neil, cheers I can scatch something of the ever increasing list
thats the plan , You won't hear me complaining about the current setup, the fact is i am lucky it has lasted this long and after going to the pod last year tip toeing around just doing enough to beat my friends - its time for a rebuild - if we get a few horses as well its a bonus
unless Bob ( mapper) turned round and said I would be better off with another turbo - to be honest with my past experience i found it best to research, research research then take my ideas to Bob for him to rip them to bits - then come up with what I really want

one bit that did make me smile was David at API state I did need a sti inlet manifold to run my turbo due to the clearance issue with the tumbler valves - so it wasn't me being stupid with the fitting of this turbo i would have been much better off with the sti inlet ...... live and learn
Im really wishing I had the space to do this work my self
and hot off the press
******the girl friend has gave the go ahead to the new build*****
after a big talk it was decided that if we buy a house this year It will be years before i get to do something like this ever again
house is on the cards for 2008 and a new interest free card has landed on the door step
(fingers crossed) RCM will get back to be soon and I will make my mind up what I want to go for, to be honest Im still havn't got a clue
if any one has any recomendation or horror stories let me know ( in private if you wish )
I want to build an engine that will last and allow me to add a gt30 r if \ when the voices in my head get worse
if any one has any recomendation or horror stories let me know ( in private if you wish )
I want to build an engine that will last and allow me to add a gt30 r if \ when the voices in my head get worse
Last edited by WRX_Rich; Jan 28, 2009 at 09:55 AM.
he also mentioned they slightly move the turbo for better clearance of the inlet
obviously i need to find a way of dealing with the tgv's , one comment was just to tie them out of the way ( much cheaper than the aps system )
has any one had the cel removed that goes along with the tgv's being removed using ecu tek... if they have I could just bin them
I have been emailed asking about costs , and for interest for the thread will will put rough costs
the gear box around 3k + vat
engine about 8.5K for 2.5 and knock about 1 k off that to stick with a 2 litre + vat
(fingers crossed) RCM will get back to be soon and I will make my mind up what I want to go for, to be honest Im still havn't got a clue
if any one has any recomendation or horror stories let me know ( in private if you wish ) over 13 k + on an 4 year old car is a mistake to start with but i would be gutted to spend that if It wasn't perfect
I want to build an engine that will last and allow me to add a gt30 r if \ when the voices in my head get worse
the gear box around 3k + vat
engine about 8.5K for 2.5 and knock about 1 k off that to stick with a 2 litre + vat
(fingers crossed) RCM will get back to be soon and I will make my mind up what I want to go for, to be honest Im still havn't got a clue
if any one has any recomendation or horror stories let me know ( in private if you wish ) over 13 k + on an 4 year old car is a mistake to start with but i would be gutted to spend that if It wasn't perfect
I want to build an engine that will last and allow me to add a gt30 r if \ when the voices in my head get worse

Rich - I'm sure you don't need to spend anywhere near £13k to achieve what you are looking for - and I don't mean by buying cheap crap either....
Search around for options. Find an engine builder you can trust and source components from Lateral or AS Performance. Gearbox built for you by Zen
A well built 2.5 litre with an MD321 turbo would make the most driveable and fast road car that money can buy. If you go for bigger turbo's you will lose driveability
whats driveability 
remember mine is a wrx with heads that need work ( i assume ) and a gear box that needs replacing with clutch etc etc
sadly the only garage that I know from experiance I can trust is RCM after i was less than impressed by 2 other "specialists" but i am still awaiting a quote and have a feeling it will be way over the current one
-I have never used any of the guys you have mentioned but agree they seem to have 100% reputations on the web, but looking at web prices APIs don't seem far out
am I over specing the engine getting for what i need ?
full spec
2.5 block supplyed with crank
rods
Pistons
cams ( sti 5 )
race bearingss
uprated timing belt
polished heads, uprated valves and springs
pump
baffeled sump
braided fuel lines, fuel reg goodrich connectors, run in parallel
clutch ( to handle 500 ft lbs )
flywheel
ppg box ( replcing forks and bearings )
inlet manifold
all fit and supplied
it all adds up - im not sure if adding the price to the thread was a good move or not but comments like your terry make me glad i did

remember mine is a wrx with heads that need work ( i assume ) and a gear box that needs replacing with clutch etc etc
sadly the only garage that I know from experiance I can trust is RCM after i was less than impressed by 2 other "specialists" but i am still awaiting a quote and have a feeling it will be way over the current one

-I have never used any of the guys you have mentioned but agree they seem to have 100% reputations on the web, but looking at web prices APIs don't seem far out
am I over specing the engine getting for what i need ?
full spec
2.5 block supplyed with crank
rods
Pistons
cams ( sti 5 )
race bearingss
uprated timing belt
polished heads, uprated valves and springs
pump
baffeled sump
braided fuel lines, fuel reg goodrich connectors, run in parallel
clutch ( to handle 500 ft lbs )
flywheel
ppg box ( replcing forks and bearings )
inlet manifold
all fit and supplied
it all adds up - im not sure if adding the price to the thread was a good move or not but comments like your terry make me glad i did
The software can be found on Main Page - OpenECU
Ive been very successful remapping my own WRX with this-Mind you, you cant beat the knowledge of the people like Bob Rawle ect...Its taken me a lot of evenings/petrol to get what little knowledge i have on remapping, but it'll then be easier for me when i start to do a build like yours.
Cracking thread-youve really taken the bull by the horns now havn't you
The beauty of Zen or API is you can get the engine/trans from both so maybe deal a package with them, a one-stop shop.
I think i would ask for parts from Mark at Lateral for the engine and add new synchro's to the box/ppg build-up.
Graham
I think i would ask for parts from Mark at Lateral for the engine and add new synchro's to the box/ppg build-up.
Graham
the great thing about these threads is you can look back
ow the joys of feature creep
RCM did get back to me and have done a good deal, and with allot of good advice through PMs \ emails I have decided to go with it
( a big thanks to alang )
nothing against API in the choice but as I have used RCM in the past and they have made up for the delay ... here goes all my money
not going to mention spec untill its all on paper its changed about 20 times in the last month
im hoping for over 500bhp but have to see how far budget will go
ow the joys of feature creep
RCM did get back to me and have done a good deal, and with allot of good advice through PMs \ emails I have decided to go with it
( a big thanks to alang )
nothing against API in the choice but as I have used RCM in the past and they have made up for the delay ... here goes all my money
not going to mention spec untill its all on paper its changed about 20 times in the last month
im hoping for over 500bhp but have to see how far budget will go
only thing i have done to mine recently is fit a few new carbon look pannels
these are the subaru ones but sourced from Scott Lowe and a much better price
main reason for the swap was I took an big chunk out of the originals with my fishing gear

these are the subaru ones but sourced from Scott Lowe and a much better price
main reason for the swap was I took an big chunk out of the originals with my fishing gear

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the great thing about these threads is you can look back
ow the joys of feature creep
RCM did get back to me and have done a good deal, and with allot of good advice through PMs \ emails I have decided to go with it
( a big thanks to alang )
nothing against API in the choice but as I have used RCM in the past and they have made up for the delay ... here goes all my money
not going to mention spec untill its all on paper its changed about 20 times in the last month
im hoping for over 500bhp but have to see how far budget will go
ow the joys of feature creep
RCM did get back to me and have done a good deal, and with allot of good advice through PMs \ emails I have decided to go with it
( a big thanks to alang )
nothing against API in the choice but as I have used RCM in the past and they have made up for the delay ... here goes all my money
not going to mention spec untill its all on paper its changed about 20 times in the last month
im hoping for over 500bhp but have to see how far budget will go
You have not gone for the same spec as Marty have you?
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[i was less than impressed by 2 other "specialists"
I Hope that I am not one of those
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I Hope that I am not one of those
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That's what l hoped - thanks for clearing that up Rich. Good Luck. l know RCM 'll do a good job, as they seem incapable of doing anything else.
Regards David
Regards David
The Enginuity remapping program has various TGV cel fixes-including an open circuit fix, you can do this yourself from a laptop,the software is all free, you only have to buy an obd2 lead from tactrix.
The software can be found on Main Page - OpenECU
Ive been very successful remapping my own WRX with this-Mind you, you cant beat the knowledge of the people like Bob Rawle ect...Its taken me a lot of evenings/petrol to get what little knowledge i have on remapping, but it'll then be easier for me when i start to do a build like yours.
Cracking thread-youve really taken the bull by the horns now havn't you
The software can be found on Main Page - OpenECU
Ive been very successful remapping my own WRX with this-Mind you, you cant beat the knowledge of the people like Bob Rawle ect...Its taken me a lot of evenings/petrol to get what little knowledge i have on remapping, but it'll then be easier for me when i start to do a build like yours.
Cracking thread-youve really taken the bull by the horns now havn't you
cheers easy
if all goes to plan hoping to ditch the std ecu so this won't be a problem
sooooooooo
Things are moving along a little, new pads on the rear and some braided hoses .... nice easy job ( yes first time i ever changed pads in my life )
hoses were a pig to split but once off went back together well
RCM as expected are taking time to get round to my car and my clutch has started to slip a little so rather than miss the start of the summer I have booked the car in for a API ppg gear set and a new clutch \ flywheel
now what clutch do you think i should go for, i was thinking a single plate but watching others ( thanks Neil ) I have started to think i should go for the twin plate exedy .... would that be a bad idea ?
Im hoping with the new gear box I can get the most out of the current engine with regards santa pod etc but it will be more than capable of the new engine
cheers
Things are moving along a little, new pads on the rear and some braided hoses .... nice easy job ( yes first time i ever changed pads in my life )
hoses were a pig to split but once off went back together well
RCM as expected are taking time to get round to my car and my clutch has started to slip a little so rather than miss the start of the summer I have booked the car in for a API ppg gear set and a new clutch \ flywheel
now what clutch do you think i should go for, i was thinking a single plate but watching others ( thanks Neil ) I have started to think i should go for the twin plate exedy .... would that be a bad idea ?
Im hoping with the new gear box I can get the most out of the current engine with regards santa pod etc but it will be more than capable of the new engine
cheers
oow and just to wind me up my hks hiper is looking a little strange
looks like some one has stuffed it full of wire wool, Im guessing this is the insides trying to brake free, so i will be looking out for a new back box as well
looks like some one has stuffed it full of wire wool, Im guessing this is the insides trying to brake free, so i will be looking out for a new back box as well
well cars now off the drive and with API, exedy dual plate clutch and a straight cut ppg
just hope i can get on with the noise
I could get away with less but i didn't need the worry, after looking after my current 5 speed this long its time for a "no excuse" attiude when it comes to playing at the 1/4 mile and getting in on a few track days
just hope i can get on with the noise
I could get away with less but i didn't need the worry, after looking after my current 5 speed this long its time for a "no excuse" attiude when it comes to playing at the 1/4 mile and getting in on a few track days
Last edited by WRX_Rich; Apr 16, 2007 at 10:11 PM.


