PPP on MY06 STI
23 February 2006, 09:21 AM
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Hopefully getting springs fitted in March - there's a section on the M42 thats concrete, everytime I go up it I swear I'm going to bite my tongue off......
Fingers crossed springs will sort
Fingers crossed springs will sort
23 February 2006, 09:34 AM
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Guys why is it that when you spend £27k on an STi you have to get Prodrive springs fitted to make the car handle right.
What a bloody rip off, I know this as I've been there. So why can't we get a car out of the box that doesn't need all these bits added on to make it as it should have come in the first place.
Could you imagine going into a dealer, "Good morning sir, I see your interested in a new STi, what a good choice. Well to achieve the full potential I would suggest you have PPP, Springs, PFF-7s yadda yadda yadda.......
Hmmm, now a £27k car in reality is actually £31.5k, and for £30k you can get a Spec-C RA Ltd not a difficult choice is it.
What a bloody rip off, I know this as I've been there. So why can't we get a car out of the box that doesn't need all these bits added on to make it as it should have come in the first place.
Could you imagine going into a dealer, "Good morning sir, I see your interested in a new STi, what a good choice. Well to achieve the full potential I would suggest you have PPP, Springs, PFF-7s yadda yadda yadda.......
Hmmm, now a £27k car in reality is actually £31.5k, and for £30k you can get a Spec-C RA Ltd not a difficult choice is it.
23 February 2006, 09:47 AM
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no different to other manufacturers though - not everyone wants or needs the extras and this way they can keep the base cost down so people can get into the car for less. sure if they want to acheive the full potential they would want to add more but that's the whole point of 99% of threads on here or indeed other car forums.
23 February 2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Mike.
Should you not have the testing complete by now and the product in the field? You are loosing money and business at the moment.......Pull your finger out man
What a way to run a business
I'll not crawl around you like the rest of them do
Should you not have the testing complete by now and the product in the field? You are loosing money and business at the moment.......Pull your finger out man
What a way to run a business
I'll not crawl around you like the rest of them do
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23 February 2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
So by "sorting out niggles" you mean replace warranty items in the first 3 years (or 60k) of ownership?
No...didn't think so.
No...didn't think so.
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23 February 2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
they are not losing business because the subaru dealer network can officially take your money for the PPP pack as it is in the new accessories catalogue - just cant get it done at the moment.
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23 February 2006, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boyakasha
Guys why is it that when you spend £27k on an STi you have to get Prodrive springs fitted to make the car handle right.
What a bloody rip off, I know this as I've been there. So why can't we get a car out of the box that doesn't need all these bits added on to make it as it should have come in the first place.
Could you imagine going into a dealer, "Good morning sir, I see your interested in a new STi, what a good choice. Well to achieve the full potential I would suggest you have PPP, Springs, PFF-7s yadda yadda yadda.......
Hmmm, now a £27k car in reality is actually £31.5k, and for £30k you can get a Spec-C RA Ltd not a difficult choice is it.
What a bloody rip off, I know this as I've been there. So why can't we get a car out of the box that doesn't need all these bits added on to make it as it should have come in the first place.
Could you imagine going into a dealer, "Good morning sir, I see your interested in a new STi, what a good choice. Well to achieve the full potential I would suggest you have PPP, Springs, PFF-7s yadda yadda yadda.......
Hmmm, now a £27k car in reality is actually £31.5k, and for £30k you can get a Spec-C RA Ltd not a difficult choice is it.
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02 March 2006, 12:38 PM
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Hey Mike,
Have you perfected your "Heat Soak" argument ready for when the car doesn't perform as well as you quote when the magazines test it?
Will you be able to "get 4.6 secs all day" in this one - or do you expect it to be quicker?
Having seen the MY07 photos - are Prodrive thinking of producing a "PPB" kit?
Prodrive Paper Bag ??
Jza
Have you perfected your "Heat Soak" argument ready for when the car doesn't perform as well as you quote when the magazines test it?
Will you be able to "get 4.6 secs all day" in this one - or do you expect it to be quicker?
Having seen the MY07 photos - are Prodrive thinking of producing a "PPB" kit?
Prodrive Paper Bag ??
Jza
02 March 2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
they'll be gaining business soon ... from engine rebuilds out of warranty when all the 400bhp engines tuned for a fistfull of halfords vouchers come in for repair.
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03 March 2006, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
dynamix
Unfortunately not, the calibration has been done to suit that hardware spec and seemingly small differences can make quite large differences to the calibration to sort boost control etc.
Bartop
The details will be out as soon as they are available but until we've completed all the tests I can't give you accurate numbers.
Mike
Unfortunately not, the calibration has been done to suit that hardware spec and seemingly small differences can make quite large differences to the calibration to sort boost control etc.
Bartop
The details will be out as soon as they are available but until we've completed all the tests I can't give you accurate numbers.
Mike
I trust my official invite will be in the post so I can give all these old boys a true impression ???
I can do a better job than any fookin car mag thats for sure!!
03 March 2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ARRON BIRD
Mike I look forward to testing you new car with PPP.
I trust my official invite will be in the post so I can give all these old boys a true impression ???
I can do a better job than any fookin car mag thats for sure!!
I trust my official invite will be in the post so I can give all these old boys a true impression ???
I can do a better job than any fookin car mag thats for sure!!
And I'll be in the fecking passenger seat. O'hara claims he's a better driver than you and that i'd learn more from him!!
03 March 2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
And I'll be in the fecking passenger seat. O'hara claims he's a better driver than you and that i'd learn more from him!!
Take no notice of him.
He`s ok as long as its pointing nice and straight but get it a little sideways and he`s ****ed!!
Typical ex-kartist!!
05 March 2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
or halfords tuned STis ... like yours!!!
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06 March 2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
mine has not been near halfords unlike yours with your max power spoiler/unremapped decatted car -a true enthusiast your car has no warranty due to your mods well worth £30,000.at least mine has been modded by a reputable dealer and not a smurf such as yourself,i take it the new owner knows it has been tracked and decatted invalidating the warranty?
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Easy tiger!!!
You know it doesnt keep up with a standard WR1 though eh Martin!!
Those were the days all I race with now is articulated lorries in my "Professionally" re-mapped pick up!!
06 March 2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
mine has not been near halfords unlike yours with your max power spoiler/unremapped decatted car -a true enthusiast your car has no warranty due to your mods well worth £30,000.at least mine has been modded by a reputable dealer and not a smurf such as yourself,i take it the new owner knows it has been tracked and decatted invalidating the warranty?
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PMSL ... I take it you let your daughter write this post then.
Unremapped???? Definitely got your facts wrong there.
Warranty???? The car has a full warranty, as the dealer I used was warranty friendly!
Tracked ... yeh it has been and that was in the for sale post. lol the guy who bought it is funnily enough using it as a track toy so is fully aware. I suppose my dyno read outs and receipts from the company that remapped the car were enough for him!
I feel sorry for your kids Martin if they grow up to be anything like you ...
06 March 2006, 09:19 AM
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In any case this post is about PPP on the 06 Subarus not your jealousy and crap spouting about your halfords tuned car being better than a subaru prepared motor.
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
06 March 2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
In any case this post is about PPP on the 06 Subarus not your jealousy and crap spouting about your halfords tuned car being better than a subaru prepared motor.
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
martin
06 March 2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
PMSL ... I take it you let your daughter write this post then.
Unremapped???? Definitely got your facts wrong there.
Warranty???? The car has a full warranty, as the dealer I used was warranty friendly!
Tracked ... yeh it has been and that was in the for sale post. lol the guy who bought it is funnily enough using it as a track toy so is fully aware. I suppose my dyno read outs and receipts from the company that remapped the car were enough for him!
Unremapped???? Definitely got your facts wrong there.
Warranty???? The car has a full warranty, as the dealer I used was warranty friendly!
Tracked ... yeh it has been and that was in the for sale post. lol the guy who bought it is funnily enough using it as a track toy so is fully aware. I suppose my dyno read outs and receipts from the company that remapped the car were enough for him!
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06 March 2006, 04:25 PM
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[QUOTE=Gangsta Smurf]In any case this post is about PPP on the 06 Subarus not your jealousy and crap spouting about your halfords tuned car being better than a subaru prepared motor.
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
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i do not slate them as there are several prodrive products on my car and i am happy with them,i was not happy with prodrive regarding my sti 03 ppp stutering poor fuel economy all improved by remap,i had contacted subaru/prodrive and was told an ecu reset would be fine-did not work so i was not happy with customer service-seeing how i never paid for ppp in first place i did not lose any money by going to a more professional tsl all imho
martin
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
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i do not slate them as there are several prodrive products on my car and i am happy with them,i was not happy with prodrive regarding my sti 03 ppp stutering poor fuel economy all improved by remap,i had contacted subaru/prodrive and was told an ecu reset would be fine-did not work so i was not happy with customer service-seeing how i never paid for ppp in first place i did not lose any money by going to a more professional tsl all imho
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06 March 2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
In any case this post is about PPP on the 06 Subarus not your jealousy and crap spouting about your halfords tuned car being better than a subaru prepared motor.
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
I feel sorry for Mike really, having to come onto this site and read posts by people like you which have no fact in them whatsoever. The plain fact of the matter is that you can't afford a new Subaru or for yours to be modded properly and under warranty by Prodrive. Therefore you choose to slate them at every given opportunity, which I guess must make you feel better about yourself somehow.
I on the other hand am happy to wait until Prodrive release the PPP for the 06 cars ... my 06 will be one of the first booked in I can guarantee you!!
martin
06 March 2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
i take it you could only afford a toy ferrari and not the real deal
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lol ... you still haven't got over the WR1 being a better car standard than your halfords STi 'with chargecooler' ... it's ok Martin I understand your bitterness - when you can afford to play with the bigger boys come back and start up the argument again.
So I'll see you in about 30 years I guess!
Anyway back on topic ... again
. Any idea of potential power figures after PPP yet Mike?
06 March 2006, 04:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Gangsta Smurf]lol ... you still haven't got over the WR1 being a better car standard than your halfords STi 'with chargecooler' ... it's ok Martin I understand your bitterness - when you can afford to play with the bigger boys come back and start up the argument again.
So I'll see you in about 30 years I guess!
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you might even be able to afford insurance on your own policy by then!
no answer on who remapped your car then i wonder why,is it because it invalidates the subaru warranty?i am not bitter about you needing to modify your wr1 to keep up with peugeots etc
martin
So I'll see you in about 30 years I guess!
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you might even be able to afford insurance on your own policy by then!
no answer on who remapped your car then i wonder why,is it because it invalidates the subaru warranty?i am not bitter about you needing to modify your wr1 to keep up with peugeots etc
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06 March 2006, 05:28 PM
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Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
lol ... you still haven't got over the WR1 being a better car standard than your halfords STi 'with chargecooler' ... it's ok Martin I understand your bitterness - when you can afford to play with the bigger boys come back and start up the argument again.
So I'll see you in about 30 years I guess!
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you might even be able to afford insurance on your own policy by then!
no answer on who remapped your car then i wonder why,is it because it invalidates the subaru warranty?i am not bitter about you needing to modify your wr1 to keep up with peugeots etc
martin
So I'll see you in about 30 years I guess!
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you might even be able to afford insurance on your own policy by then!
no answer on who remapped your car then i wonder why,is it because it invalidates the subaru warranty?i am not bitter about you needing to modify your wr1 to keep up with peugeots etc
martin
Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
06 March 2006, 05:32 PM
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[QUOTE=Gangsta Smurf]
Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
maybe if you read the above posts you would see the reason for the mods explained ,i like the way that you seem unable to reply without insults proving your point of being stupid as standard as why else would you resort to school name calling?
martin
Originally Posted by p1doc
Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
martin
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[QUOTE=Gangsta Smurf]
Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
i take it the principles you refer to are decatting a wr1,getting it remapped by halfords and then expecting someone else subaru to pick up the pieces !and then you sell the car mmmmm very responsible-NOT
martin
Originally Posted by p1doc
Lol ... you must think that because I'm 23 I'm also stupid as standard. I'm really going to announce in a public forum information about a warranty friendly dealer ... you retard!!! Principles Martin are what get you deals and to places in this world that you don't get being Captain **** and a grass!
Why did you have your STi halfords tuned then???? To keep up with .... ???? Obviousely your feelings of inadequacy go further than just your *****.
martin
