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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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i have a wr1 like mike has id like a performance upgrade rear spoiler conversions like one sgm doo next too prodrive decent brake upgrades that cost reasonable i had too get ap 6 pots

also good gauges i have the defi pod with bf gauges front lower lip spoiler from dealers like jap ones aslo some decent samco hoses for engine ok rant over but subaru and prodrive could make soo much more money with some decent priced upgrades

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gordywr1
i have a wr1 like mike has id like a performance upgrade rear spoiler conversions like one sgm doo next too prodrive decent brake upgrades that cost reasonable i had too get ap 6 pots

also good gauges i have the defi pod with bf gauges front lower lip spoiler from dealers like jap ones aslo some decent samco hoses for engine ok rant over but subaru and prodrive could make soo much more money with some decent priced upgrades

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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ppp stage 1 320bhp £1600
ppp stage 2 350bhp £2000
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
ppp stage 1 320bhp £1600
ppp stage 2 350bhp £2000
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Is this wishful thinking or fact?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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350BHP for £2k !!!!!

Wow - nice one Prodrive.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil W
Is this wishful thinking or fact?
fact as told to me by dealer principal
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Even I don't know the final figures.......



Robocop

That rumour is erroneous, IM have no issue at all with the warranty.


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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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is it still not possible to buy elements of the PPP ie the ECU/map on its own?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Martin

Even I don't know the final figures.......



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That rumour is erroneous, IM have no issue at all with the warranty.


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When will we know all the details Mike ? Have you got a fixed launch date yet ?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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i could live with that aweful front end with 350bhp :P
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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dynamix

Unfortunately not, the calibration has been done to suit that hardware spec and seemingly small differences can make quite large differences to the calibration to sort boost control etc.


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The details will be out as soon as they are available but until we've completed all the tests I can't give you accurate numbers.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
350BHP for £2k !!!!!

Wow - nice one Prodrive.
350 bhp for £499 !!!!

Wow -nice one Ecutec
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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£499 includes exhaust, warranty and main dealer backup does it?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by THOMO
350 bhp for £499 !!!!

Wow -nice one Ecutec
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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£499 includes exhaust, warranty and main dealer backup does it?
depends which dealer and if your mapper is good likely to be more powerful,more driveable and better value for money than ppp-and usually aftermarket companies are better are sorting out niggles than prodrive are from my p[ersonal experience anyway
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
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Unfortunately not, the calibration has been done to suit that hardware spec and seemingly small differences can make quite large differences to the calibration to sort boost control etc.
is that because the ppp is unable to adapt due to it being a generic map rather than and individual ecutek map?

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The details will be out as soon as they are available but until we've completed all the tests I can't give you accurate numbers.

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i thought the final figures would have been sorted a long time ago as release was suposed to be feb/march ie next week
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
350BHP for £2k !!!!!

Wow - nice one Prodrive.
and the price of the car !
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
depends which dealer and if your mapper is good likely to be more powerful,more driveable and better value for money than ppp-and usually aftermarket companies are better are sorting out niggles than prodrive are from my p[ersonal experience anyway
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So by "sorting out niggles" you mean replace warranty items in the first 3 years (or 60k) of ownership?

No...didn't think so.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
£499 includes exhaust, warranty and main dealer backup does it?
Don't forget the replacement fuel pump
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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how did this get to be a slanging match?

the simple truth is:

£600 ish -> no warranty & poss neg effect of value of car in future
£1600 ish -> warranty & poss positive effect on value of car in future

power/driveability will be similar although it is not comparing like for like cos the ppp kit changes the exhaust and a few other bits too.

It depends on whether you want to take the risk versus the extra £1000 for the warranty.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
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The details will be out as soon as they are available but until we've completed all the tests I can't give you accurate numbers.

Mike
Mike.

Should you not have the testing complete by now and the product in the field? You are loosing money and business at the moment.......Pull your finger out man

What a way to run a business

I'll not crawl around you like the rest of them do
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Well its the end of feb soon and still no details on the PPP
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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I thought Feb ended on the 28th?! That's 6 whole days......Time for Prodrive to announce figures and send the parts to the dealers eh Mike?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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they are not losing business because the subaru dealer network can officially take your money for the PPP pack as it is in the new accessories catalogue - just cant get it done at the moment.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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they'll be gaining business soon ... from engine rebuilds out of warranty when all the 400bhp engines tuned for a fistfull of halfords vouchers come in for repair.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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so how much is it?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Should have been sorted for release of car - definately a huge selling point, think they should have Prodrive springs as part of upgrade though - not got any on mine yet and the 'hopping' up the mway is driving me insane...!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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had prodrive springs fitted on my MY06 from dealer - no probs - solves the nodding dog syndrome.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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How are the Prodrive springs different? Height and rate change which way?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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dont know too much on the technicals but they lower it slightly about 25mm they quote and seem to be much better at reducing the bobbing and getting the handling right
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