jonc

That pretty much sums up everyone here who posts on this forum!! My vote goes to Clio purely on drivng pleasure and bang per buck having owned a 172 and extensively driven a CTR.

slim_boy_fat

Stop your "believe me i know" pish "oh i knw the guys in evo"

Point is they are in a better position to tell whats good and whats not so good, FACT.

F*** off and play your name dropping card to someone who gives a f***

The Incredible Hulk

[quote=slim_boy_fat]there opinions just a tad more worthy than yours,

Evo is all about drivers cars, FACT. If you want to read opinions with a diffrent slant buy What Car.

On another note, the Integra Type R gets my volte.

The CTR is just plain overpriced and quite frankly ugly but then someone else might think it look nice.

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Couldn't resist; as the future purchaser of a car my opinion tends to be the most important, not that of a third party, purely bacuse my driving talent is unlikely to match theirs!

EVO has had a number of lardy cars (Hummer etc) in their reviews, some of those cars would struggle to be in the same sentence as the term 'drivers car'

The Integra gets my vote if its a DC2, save much money over the expensive DC5 and not have the nausea of looking for specialist insurance providers (imports)

Call a CTR ugly, its a beauty compared to my previous vehicle - a bugeye WRX

Ta, Kevin

rexabusa

i am a big honda fan and really like these, only seen pics though. arent they quicker than ctr, what does it pull like over 100mph. came across any scoobys/evo
sorry i have gone off post just would really consider one of these

Dark Blue Mark

VTEC's kick butt at higher speeds, my S2000 pulls really hard at 80 plus.

I got wasted by a 2.2 prelude when I had a tweaked Uk turbo. It sailed past The new ITS is really a nice piece of kit. Brembo's, lightweight, great diff, nice seats etc etc. I had a DC2 but it was just too raw, this looks a bit more comfy

MB

super6four

Hmm no need to get nasty. But if you would rather be told what to think. Be my guest ...Oh and here is a plaster, put it over your knuckles that are dragging on the floor.

mad-dad

according to EVO
ctr 0-60 6.8 0-100 16.9
dc2 0-60 6.2 0-100 17.9
dc5 0-60 7.1 0-100 16.7
172 0-60 7.1 0-100 18.9
182 0-60 6.6 0-100 17.5
figures for the dc5 are from the manufacture's(sp?) but listed in evo

mad-dad

also found this.not very clear, but interesting all the samehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?do...85403&q=type+r

super6four

The DC5 is quicker than the CTR (The UKDM) one at least. It has the JDM K20 that has a bit more power, yet it also has LSD, Brembos, and more responsive steering, so an allround more flexible package. Still as allways figures on paper mean nothing. In everyday driving situations and on numerous testing sessions on track the DC5 edges away in all situations. This is more pronounced at speeds of over 80 mph when it's more slippery shape comes into play.

Hell even the DC2 is quicker at up to 80 than the CTR, only then the CTR's larger capacity and gearing makes a difference. Round the twisty average B road the LSD and much better chassis again makes a difference.

Gaz 1

ctr 0-60 6.8 0-100 16.9
dc2 0-60 6.2 0-100 17.9
dc5 0-60 7.1 0-100 16.7
172 0-60 7.1 0-100 18.9
182 0-60 6.6 0-100 17.5

Interesting figures there, the figures i've heard about the dc5 are different to 60 though more like 6.1.

rexabusa over 100mph is starts to fly imo, not that i've done such a silly thing

rexabusa

cheers guys

2004_wrx

the clio is ahead up to 100mph then the civic starts to pull away over 100
teh clio has better handling aswell and is very quick for a small car and really underrated aswell you have to be in both of them to realise how well a clio goes instead of stating figures and giving it BLA BLA BLA about ive done this ive seen this when you are in both cars with tha same driver each time you will fell the clio being alot nippier to 100
this is all my OWN OPINION

lukey1

right guys thanks for all your input, now i have managed to find a garage that has a ctr and a clio 182...sr???? apparently its the one that has the 2 white stripes over it and will let me test drive them both at the weekend

does anyone know what a sr version is and if so what does it have on over a 182/cup/trophy ????

cheers luke

2004_wrx

the 182 you are talking about is a 182 clio cup the colour is racing blue and has white stripes,cup suspension,anthracite wheels,cup spoile,front splitter all this comes with the clio cup which is only abvailible in racing blue and is lighter and has a faster 0-60 time as this is the one my brother has at the moment.... hope that helps

2004_wrx

the stripes are called gordini stripes...forgot to add that lol

R1916v

Trophy is the top spec model, one colour, better wheels imho, V6 spoiler, recaro seats as standard, sachs dampers with external reservoir etc.

2004_wrx

yeah the trophy has the 172 cup wheels in anthracite and yes its the top of range but the colour aint to hot..

lukey1

well today i drove both the 182 and ctr back to back and i can now say i will not be buying.........a 182, because i thought the driving position was poor as was the steering wheel position just didnt feel right, also it didnt feel that quick for what it was and gave me no confidence when accelerating out of corners or turning in for that matter, but still a nice looking little car, however the ctr was everything the clio wasnt more planted,stable, smoother, generally a nicer drive all round,

my g/f was very dissapointed with the clio because that was her chioce but she knew as soon as she drove the honda it was far better

anyway the search for a ctr begins(anybody want to buy an evo 6)

thanks for all your comments

luke

R1916v

There you go, told you that there would be a clear winner, everyone is different I find my 172 "skittish" when pushing it, especially compared to the old 19. But I guess that's what you get for having such a shorter wheelbase, unlike a good ol' breadvan