Why do you frown at dump valves?
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So??
In conclusion ...... having a VTA Dump Valve will:-
1. Make you look like a right ****
and,
2. Destroy your engine
Sorted ......... lets all go out and buy one!!
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Pete
In conclusion ...... having a VTA Dump Valve will:-
1. Make you look like a right ****
and,
2. Destroy your engine
Sorted ......... lets all go out and buy one!!
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Didn't know Subaru or Prodrive fitted induction kits? ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
I personally like the way a decent vta performs (ie HKS SSQV). Cant be arsed getting into the ins and outs of it all again though.![Sleep](images/smilies/sleep.gif)
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I personally like the way a decent vta performs (ie HKS SSQV). Cant be arsed getting into the ins and outs of it all again though.
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I know the reasons against VTA valves, but I love the sound of the HKS SSQV, which is why I have one (not to pander to anyone elses whims, but my own) - think of me what you like, I will not lose any sleep over it!
This ALWAYS seems such a heated debate, if numpties like me wish to fit 'em (regardless of the 'it'll **** your engine claims) then let us, and if other people don't like 'em, then don't worry about it!
FFS, people on here always seem so interested in arguing, I think sometimes it would be nice to go back to "the old days", when there weren't so many people ready to argue, and there was a real "community" atmosphere and not the numerous civil wars we currently get!
Oh - sorry I have one of them Chocolate engined 5 Type R's which has been going strong for 45k miles (25k with VTA), and is still going strong on original engine!
This ALWAYS seems such a heated debate, if numpties like me wish to fit 'em (regardless of the 'it'll **** your engine claims) then let us, and if other people don't like 'em, then don't worry about it!
FFS, people on here always seem so interested in arguing, I think sometimes it would be nice to go back to "the old days", when there weren't so many people ready to argue, and there was a real "community" atmosphere and not the numerous civil wars we currently get!
Oh - sorry I have one of them Chocolate engined 5 Type R's which has been going strong for 45k miles (25k with VTA), and is still going strong on original engine!
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Fair enough. If you like it, it works OK so far, hasn't done any apparent damage, then why not?
I, personally don't think owt of you, either way. It's your car.
The original poster asked why people frown on them, was told, and then argued, as did others. <<Shrugs>>
People, including me, will always argue the toss. Posts like "They're cool as fu ck, get one" tend to get up my nose a bit, that's all.![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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I, personally don't think owt of you, either way. It's your car.
The original poster asked why people frown on them, was told, and then argued, as did others. <<Shrugs>>
People, including me, will always argue the toss. Posts like "They're cool as fu ck, get one" tend to get up my nose a bit, that's all.
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i like the noise VTA's since my RST days. Personally i have had a bailey on my 04 sti, i change it as and when i feel like a change and im getting quite good at sticking the recirculating bit of the valve back down the pipe. Can do it in ten minutes now
those of you who have tried it know what im talking about ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
i notice a slight difference between VTA and OE but i think thats more a placebo. Need to get it monitored over a period of time with some sense of science to it and put this 'type' of thread to sleep forever
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i notice a slight difference between VTA and OE but i think thats more a placebo. Need to get it monitored over a period of time with some sense of science to it and put this 'type' of thread to sleep forever
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Fair enough. If you like it, it works OK so far, hasn't done any apparent damage, then why not?
I, personally don't think owt of you, either way. It's your car.
The original poster asked why people frown on them, was told, and then argued, as did others. <<Shrugs>>
People, including me, will always argue the toss. Posts like "They're cool as fu ck, get one" tend to get up my nose a bit, that's all.![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Alcazar
I, personally don't think owt of you, either way. It's your car.
The original poster asked why people frown on them, was told, and then argued, as did others. <<Shrugs>>
People, including me, will always argue the toss. Posts like "They're cool as fu ck, get one" tend to get up my nose a bit, that's all.
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Alcazar
I agree the post you highlight is "off the mark", and that the gathered knowledge of the site is mahooosive and indespensible!! Didn't mean to single anyone out either!
Seems to me that the site has just become very antagonistic (I may have even been guilty of this in the past - and probably will in the future, but I would hope over things not as trivial as VTA's - chav or not!)
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Originally Posted by pslewis
So??
In conclusion ...... having a VTA Dump Valve will:-
1. Make you look like a right ****
and,
2. Destroy your engine
Sorted ......... lets all go out and buy one!!
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Pete
In conclusion ...... having a VTA Dump Valve will:-
1. Make you look like a right ****
and,
2. Destroy your engine
Sorted ......... lets all go out and buy one!!
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Pete
Haha! I think that sums it up nicely!!
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Originally Posted by TonyFlow
I agree with what you are saying mate, I have been in a few arguments on here, but when they are the same old thing it gets a bit tired!
You would like it to be the nice huggie, huggie Forum it was way back when ... well, times have changed, the BBS Membership is huge now and we don't want to talk boring crap about the type of Oil, how to change the Oil and Lambda voltages - cos, its bollox that made a few very sad people feel ever so important!!
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Why do you have a vta rather than a re-circ? you like the sound yes? what other reason is there?
Fair enough if you like that sort of thing. However most people will think you are a wally when they hear you psssshh by. fact of life really.
Fair enough if you like that sort of thing. However most people will think you are a wally when they hear you psssshh by. fact of life really.
Yeah I just quite like it.
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Originally Posted by Granby
Funny you didn't say any of this when i was buying your D/V
, but i have fitted the D/V to my car and have not noticed any difference in performance or lag so it may be just your car as you did say you had to take it back to the dealer and they found a sensor was faulty.
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As for the sensor again, i removed the DV and all that happed just after it, so it may well be my car, but since what i have been reading since i took it off, it looks like not. I never knew about this MAF thing before it was fitted, or since i sold it. I am lead to belive that the standard map ECU monitors the recirc flow, ??? Yours has been remapped, so i have no idea what it does...
Ayway, glad its working ok, was a pleasure doing biusiness with you...
Sorry about the pm's, probs my fault, i was using a PDAphone which was acting up at the time
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I SAY AGAIN: IF VTA DUMPVALVES WERE OF ANY USE WHATSOEVER OR DID NO DAMAGE, DO YOU NOT THINK THAT SUBARU, (WHO DESIGNED THE CAR) OR PRODRIVE, (WHO RALLY PREP THE THINGS), WOULD FIT THEM AS STANDARD OR AS PART OF AN UPRATING KIT.?
YOU HAVE HEARD OF PRODRIVE, I TAKE IT?Alcazar
YOU HAVE HEARD OF PRODRIVE, I TAKE IT?Alcazar
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
it was a sensor in the mid section that was faulty mate, there was or is nothing wrong with the dump valve, To a standard engine, which i was lead to belive yours is not, its no use, i dont know all the tech behind it all but i would say your in a better position than me on that one mate....
As for the sensor again, i removed the DV and all that happed just after it, so it may well be my car, but since what i have been reading since i took it off, it looks like not. I never knew about this MAF thing before it was fitted, or since i sold it. I am lead to belive that the standard map ECU monitors the recirc flow, ??? Yours has been remapped, so i have no idea what it does...
Ayway, glad its working ok, was a pleasure doing biusiness with you...
Sorry about the pm's, probs my fault, i was using a PDAphone which was acting up at the time
John
As for the sensor again, i removed the DV and all that happed just after it, so it may well be my car, but since what i have been reading since i took it off, it looks like not. I never knew about this MAF thing before it was fitted, or since i sold it. I am lead to belive that the standard map ECU monitors the recirc flow, ??? Yours has been remapped, so i have no idea what it does...
Ayway, glad its working ok, was a pleasure doing biusiness with you...
Sorry about the pm's, probs my fault, i was using a PDAphone which was acting up at the time
John
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Originally Posted by leonpoole
You say that as if subaru no best but a lot of people on here think otherwise. For example when it comes to oil changes all the spacialists say crank the car over first with fresh oil which subaru say you dont need to do. My point being that because subaru dont use them doesnt mean they are bad
I would put money on it being that way around!!
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yeah, not sure what to do though, was toying with the idea of the 06STI, but selling mine now and saving for a year or so, but since talking to you and adam at the scooby clinic, i think im going to remap mine, possible uprate turbo, injectors, FMIC, im sure you get the idea, the list is endless.
But first things first, i need to sort out the front wheel that i damaged last night, needs a new one as i bumbed up some island that was in the middle of nowhere, something to do with the trams in blackpool and me not watching where i was going.
So, im looking for a WRX wheel if you know where theres one going mate, inc tyre???#
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But first things first, i need to sort out the front wheel that i damaged last night, needs a new one as i bumbed up some island that was in the middle of nowhere, something to do with the trams in blackpool and me not watching where i was going.
So, im looking for a WRX wheel if you know where theres one going mate, inc tyre???#
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Have you EVER thought that, maybe, shock horror!! The Specialists are WRONG??
I would put money on it being that way around!!
Pete
I would put money on it being that way around!!
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Originally Posted by leonpoole
My point being pete is that he says that dump valves arn't used as standard equipment so they are wrong, but he probably swears by that stupid oil change thing
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Don't care much about dump valves ...... all I know is they can damage your engine??
I read somewhere that you could get the same 'sound' by doing something simple like taking the inlet airbox off .......... not sure if thats true?? You know? The box/plastic pipe that goes into the wing on the induction side??
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GENUINE QUESTION!!!
Ive read through countless DV threads and cannot come to a propper conclusion.
I have an 02 sti of which will be remapped soon. I would actually like to fit an HKS SSQ VTA. If fitting a VTA make the car jerky will this be recified by mapping?
Also ive heard that induction kits kill MAF sensors?
Will mapping make these mods safe? or am i better sticking with a green panel filter?
I would much rather the chatter of an induction kit like i had on my cossie but if this is going to screw my MAF then i wont get one. Hence the interest in a HKS VTA as my gearchanges are currently boring to listen to
Please only constructive replys to this, thank you
Ive read through countless DV threads and cannot come to a propper conclusion.
I have an 02 sti of which will be remapped soon. I would actually like to fit an HKS SSQ VTA. If fitting a VTA make the car jerky will this be recified by mapping?
Also ive heard that induction kits kill MAF sensors?
Will mapping make these mods safe? or am i better sticking with a green panel filter?
I would much rather the chatter of an induction kit like i had on my cossie but if this is going to screw my MAF then i wont get one. Hence the interest in a HKS VTA as my gearchanges are currently boring to listen to
Please only constructive replys to this, thank you
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Originally Posted by frayz
GENUINE QUESTION!!!
Ive read through countless DV threads and cannot come to a propper conclusion.
I have an 02 sti of which will be remapped soon. I would actually like to fit an HKS SSQ VTA. If fitting a VTA make the car jerky will this be recified by mapping?
Also ive heard that induction kits kill MAF sensors?
Will mapping make these mods safe? or am i better sticking with a green panel filter?
I would much rather the chatter of an induction kit like i had on my cossie but if this is going to screw my MAF then i wont get one. Hence the interest in a HKS VTA as my gearchanges are currently boring to listen to
Please only constructive replys to this, thank you
Ive read through countless DV threads and cannot come to a propper conclusion.
I have an 02 sti of which will be remapped soon. I would actually like to fit an HKS SSQ VTA. If fitting a VTA make the car jerky will this be recified by mapping?
Also ive heard that induction kits kill MAF sensors?
Will mapping make these mods safe? or am i better sticking with a green panel filter?
I would much rather the chatter of an induction kit like i had on my cossie but if this is going to screw my MAF then i wont get one. Hence the interest in a HKS VTA as my gearchanges are currently boring to listen to
Please only constructive replys to this, thank you
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Personally i dont think dumpvalves do that much damage.
My old C reg series 1 rs had one on for over 10 years and is still going strong.
No doubt ill get people saying the usual modern day engine thing
My old C reg series 1 rs had one on for over 10 years and is still going strong.
No doubt ill get people saying the usual modern day engine thing
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Originally Posted by frayz
can anyone answer my questions?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
So??
2. Destroy your engine
Pete
2. Destroy your engine
Pete
Coming from Pete "can I do my own oil change"?, "My front discs have lasted 60,000 miles, do you think I should change them"?, "Whats a knock link"?
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Originally Posted by frayz
Mad man off to buy a VTA!!! ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I thought totally the oppisite seamed to spool up 200rpm quicker and dident have that throw forward felling when changing gear, also idles better, and get more mpg without it. althogh that down pipe you sold me doesent help with fuel all the best
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hi m8, just put a Blitz DD VTA on my 02 STi, no probs at all. seems abit faster through the gears if anything, less lag.
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