Why not remove the entire population? There'd be no problems then!

 

i know bros, its c;unts like the bigots here that make u feel extreme when they brand us or any other innocent muslims as extremists, terrorists or terrorist supporters, they c;unts who brand us like that r the real terrorist c;unts

its the white bigots cancer and may it spread and at the end kill them by their own disease and hatred amen

 

good job you remembered to drop that "bigots" in there

 

so looking at a subaru forum makes you feel extreme, may i respectfully suggest you seek some sort of medical help.

 

And that only happens in the UK? Every country I've been to has slang or derogatory terms for foreigners, including expats living in those countries.

 

Threads like this are awesome. The hatred and vitriol that comes when people 'tell it as they see it' is mind-blowing. Moses called me a **** yesterday and I didn't bother to type a rebuttal. At the time I felt it beneath me but I'm compelled to insert a few facts now. I work at Leeds Uni. One of the terrorists (suspected) attended the Uni so we've had plenty to talk about. I also share an office with a guy of Indian heritage - his family moved to England via Mombassa so they've seen a bit of the world - and he's one of the nicest guys I've ever worked with. He's as English as I am. He loves football, cricket and The Who. He's rubbish with computers, yet amazing with CNC machine tools. He's also very Indian as he also raves about Bollywood movies which makes us laugh as I just don't get them. He brings in all sorts of exotic lunches, making me feel alternately sick (cos he tucks into curries at 10am) then jealous (At lunchtime when I chew on a ham and cheese sarnie and he's noshing on a biryani). I've absolutely no idea of his religious persuasion - although I do know that his daughter's engagement and impending wedding is going to cost him a stupid amount as he has to pay for about a hundred family members to fly in. I'm surrounded by, and work with, students from all over the world - France, China, Africa, India, Iran, Poland, Czech Rep to name just a few I know - every single day and of course there a language problems, but we get over them because we all put the effort in. Perhaps it's because religion is unimportant in my life that other people's religions are of no interest to me. Perhaps it's just because it's a personal thing and not everyone needs to ram home how great their way of life is compared to your own.

I'm in awe of the young men and women who uproot from homes thousands of miles away to learn in Leeds and I appreciate the fact that they've chosen my country to learn in as one of the best.

It troubles me that moses turns every argument against him as having to be racially motivated. I couldn't care less if he's black, white or purple. He's an arrogant, ignorant trouble maker. He'll pluck things out of context to suit his own agenda and I was serious yesterday when I said he scares me. Not on a personal level but it scares me to understand that there are young men who take delight in seeing ANYBODY killed or would wish death upon anyone of his religion who chose to live outside that religion's doctrine.

I hope you can shake the 'victim' cross you seem to delight in bearing moses because I'm sure you could be a happier person for it.

 

pls quote where i called u a **** which os b-o-l-l-o-c-ks


unless it was a retalihation for something but still i didnt call u that

and tim when i mean whites i dont mean whites, i mean white bigots and westerners who think their it and bigots

i swear to god if i said whites as a whole i will burn in hell, my chechen , bosnian, albanian and the white muslim brothers in the west and the sociliast and good christian bros and sisters and good athiests etc etc i dont class as white but humans

when i say white i mean white people as a bigot and narrowminded motherfecker types, one law for the white and a different law for the colour etc type

God said no colour is superior to another in the quran

so if i said whites r this and that, i didnt mean it as u thought i did, when i talk passionately at the time i forget to add those things in the stir of the moment

and most my posts r retahiliations and carcastic when im angry to show the whiteman! what it feels like to brand them all with the same brush and do they condemn what the white people or someone sharing their religion etc and what evil they do, do they ever condemn them or attack them etc

a muslim an innocent lad got killed today, does that mean all muslims should slay all whites they see in england and blow up all bnp supporters including elderly and kids

i dont think so

i dont see anyone crying for the lil "paki" who got killed by a white mob today coz he had nothing to do with the mobs

 

It's no surprise that Muslims have such an image problem when they have people like that moses bloke to represent their views. He seems like the archetypal unhinged judgemental extremist to me.

 

The problem is that politicians are mainly reactionary beasts (much like our police) and wouldn’t know the meaning of pro-active. Suitable legislation could have protected the UK years ago, but no, too much pandering has been made to protect the rights of the minority. Look and Holland. It's fcucked now. I wonder why? Do you think Blair will retire to Skegness when he's booted out? I doubt it very much, so the knock on effect isn’t going to be his problem. The war mongering w@nker.

 

Got to agree mate i`m glad he doesn`t live near me scary !

 

i doubt im scarier than your granny
andy dont worry i dont blame u, your a narrowminded guy so its cool its genetics

 

Think you've read it wrong moses, check out my last sentence m8.

 

your probably not actually in the flesh i`d bet !

 

right with you on this one. where does it stop? i'm white, blond, blue eyed - decended from viking invaders: straight back for me.

 

I'm sorry Asif, but being English is about accepting the culture (just like being Indian, Chinese etc).. Like it or not, it's not just the colour of peoples skin, or the religion, it's also the attitude (e.g. English born Pakistanis/Indians supporting Pakistan/India etc - as mentioned earlier), Asian names (foreign names), wearing Asian dress, voluntary segregation into Enclaves where every shop is Asian in origin and probably a host of other things that single some people out... This is why you cannot feel English.. because all that is not English/British culture.

True, 'Britishness' is a mix of historical happenings and you, who as someone who doesnt feel English, are simply going through the turning point in history that BJ was talking about.. CAN British culture as it is, accept the differences that Asian and other cultures bring? I don't think it can... the differences are too great.. in all respects.

I don't believe any culture could REALLY fully integrate such polar opposites.. The majority simply feel too threatened..

Sure, you have the right to look, support, dress, worship and do whatever you want, but the realists view is that Western culture is being bombarded (quite literally) with another cultures ways... Like all historical events, some thing's got to give because this isn't going smoothly at all..

 

I have to agree that Moses can come across quite badly, and often like an extremist in his views - on the one hand suggesting members of the forum are racist, then he'll go and post blatent anti-american, anti-jewish propaganda.

On the other hand I have to admit he has made some good points from time to time, and said things which have made me stop and think.

I wish that were true - interesting to see very few Indian faces in the 2min silence today in London, and on the news many Muslims in Leeds refused to condem the bombings. Clearly its not an insignificant minority.

 

Spot on.

 

To flip things around, what is the opinion on the fact that the tragedy in London last week is a daily occurance in Iraq? Mothers mourn, fathers mourn, children mourn a whole nation mourns. Where's their 2 minutes of silence?

 

Asif, I'd like to add that being called a ‘Paki’ is racist, pure and simple.

That’s a narrow minded bigots view and is not held by the majority.

You have to look beyond that and see the wider picture.. The overwhelming view that the Asian culture is impinging, changing and altering our British culture, And now under the false guise of Islam, is bombing that culture.
You cannot blame the country for feeling under attack.. Some people will stand up and fight.

 

The problem is also, that if you enter a country that is predominantly different from your own, then you just might need to try a bit harder than most nationals to integrate and be accepted. If I went to Saudi I'd have to try a damn lot harder than anyone from an ethnic minority in the UK does to 'blend' in and become accepted. I doubt people would be saying “here comes that lovely lobster pink Christian guy from the UK, lets all accept he likes a few beers and his missus likes to get a bit of sun about her bod”. For moses I might add, I eat in many, many restaurants owned by Asians/Muslims, nearly every week in fact. I class many of the owners as friends and have socialised with them on a good few occasions. I do not and never have looked at any one from Pakistan, India or whatever and thought that that person was less British than I was. It is all too easy to become isolated because of misguided opinions, and that is when true radicalism is born.

 

Not sure, that's a question you'd have to ask them. Different countries do different things. We're supposed to all be British and patriotic but you are more concerned with other nations than your own kind.

 

That's political correctness for you.

 

Tell me when that wasnt a daily occurance in Iraq then?

 

The Germans had a good term for these people - Untermensch.

These are the people we should deport - no questions asked.

 

I wouldnt use the Germans as a good example of who to 'get rid of'.

 

I have been having thoughts on this, and have a few to lob into the pot..

accordign to the papers, comments such as they wernt true muslims have been fired around, and it got me thinking..

can someone please tell me why??

We have terrorists, they all have different views, but some more than others purport to be following religous beliefs and do there business..

do we get mad catholics blowing up buses?

does the church of england have a hit squad?

do the judean national front organise raids on other encampments..

do we have the budhist klux klan who hit other faiths..

ok so the above may not be true, but it begs the question,, why is it that the
muslim faith appears to have a flaw in that its faith seems to be very easily twisted into a mantra for wiping out humans..

we dont get a mass of jews coming out of there local synagogue, and then wandiering into the nearest shooping precinct and commiting hari .

surely some of there so called leaders must be re reading the texts to find out where it is being twisted and manipulated. and if it isnst the case, how is it that young men, seem to be very vunerable to its teachings..??

given that the mantra seems to be that allah is all caring and non killing, something would appear to be lost in translation somewhere.



mart

 

Flawed arguments there though.

Catholics and C of E = Northern Ireland
Jews = Palestine etc

 

Please tell me that was a dumbass oxymoronic reply, because it's our western leaders that are more bothered about middle-eastern nations than our own!

Oh hang on, you're one of those who believed that Saddam Hussen had weapons of mass destruction and we had to go in there to find and destroy them.

 

LOL - another dumbass who believes we invaded Iraq to rid them of their weapons of mass destruction.

 

No way, not at all. I think Blair and Labour are some of the biggest traitors this country has ever seen.