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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Dumb question. Is there anything, other than cost of the parts, stopping someone taking the drivetrain out of a 4x4 911 Turbo and putting it in a Boxster? (Even just the engine, if the 4wd system is too complex?) Or are they totally different powerplants and the mountings are absolutely non-compatible? Just curious.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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A lovely glossy booklet got delivered today.

If anyone wants to jump the queue they want to talk to me.

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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Dumb question. Is there anything, other than cost of the parts, stopping someone taking the drivetrain out of a 4x4 911 Turbo and putting it in a Boxster? (Even just the engine, if the 4wd system is too complex?) Or are they totally different powerplants and the mountings are absolutely non-compatible? Just curious.
The engines are all interchangable I believe. My mate is looking for a 3.8 engine for his Boxster
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
A lovely glossy booklet got delivered today.

If anyone wants to jump the queue they want to talk to me.

Dave
Sounds interesting

I look forward to spotting the first one on the road later this year and one at the Ring next year?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
It may well be a drivers car as opposed to a posers car but it will still be bought mainly by posers. In no time at all they will be everywhere just like boxters. Does'nt mean its probably not a good car but I can see it being very common place and relative exclusivity is part of the pleasure of owning a marque.
Depends if you're buying the car for yourself or to attempt to impress others, I would imagine.

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ps not knocking Porkers or their owners. Love to own one(only a turbo though!)
Adding a turbo misses the point of this sort of car to me. Each to their own though.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammoc
Sounds interesting

I look forward to spotting the first one on the road later this year and one at the Ring next year?
The plan was that I would be one of the first to be delivered, in club sport spec and in speed yellow.

However times change, and I dont have near on £50k for a ring toy. If I did have one, I reckon I could only afford to make 1 or 2 trips per year, and that just wouldn't do!

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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Depends if you're buying the car for yourself or to attempt to impress others, I would imagine.

A little patronising I think. You then are different to everybody else and d'ont want any kudos after spending £50k on a car?

Adding a turbo misses the point of this sort of car to me. Each to their own though.
Maybe you misunderstood me. I meant a 911 turbo, not sticking a turbo on a Gayman. Or do you feel a 911tt or GT2 misses the point?

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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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then are different to everybody else and d'ont want any kudos after spending £50k on a car?
I've got nothing to prove. Still, its a brand new Porsche - what more do you want?

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Maybe you misunderstood me. I meant a 911 turbo, not sticking a turbo on a Gayman. Or do you feel a 911tt or GT2 misses the point?
For me, yes. Why have such a finely balanced car if you have poor throttle response?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Did'nt say you had anything to prove, and nor do I.

I've never heard of a modern 911 tt ( ie 993 onwards) being described as having poor throttle response. Is that your justification for not buying a proper Porsche( only joking by the way LOL)
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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It may well be a drivers car as opposed to a posers car but it will still be bought mainly by posers. In no time at all they will be everywhere just like boxters. Does'nt mean its probably not a good car but I can see it being very common place and relative exclusivity is part of the pleasure of owning a marque.
Pretty much sums up why I think they stopped being real Porsches when they started fitting feather light easy to use clutches, power steering, more servo assistance on the brakes and fitting a/c as standard.

Eiether that or i'm stuck in the 80's
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Did'nt say you had anything to prove, and nor do I.
Well whatever the reason, I'm not as concerned about seeing others on the road. Rare means crap these days anyway, as people know what good cars are and can afford them!

Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I've never heard of a modern 911 tt ( ie 993 onwards) being described as having poor throttle response. Is that your justification for not buying a proper Porsche( only joking by the way LOL)
Ha, no I'm just a tight b4stard! Seriously though I've driven the 996 turbo and the throttle response fell short of what I'd want in a sports car... ok for a GT i guess, which is what it probably is. Quick just not much fun... bit like a scooby then

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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Received rather nice brochure last night when I got home, was accompanied by a nice letter asking me for a deposit and that I could expect delivery in November/December.

Current options on my list are:

PASM
Bose
Chrono Pack
Sports Seats, but will have to try these first.

Good points being made here about rarity value etc. This doesn't bother me personally as I've experienced "rare" cars before. I ordered a P1 the day the rumour started and was told they would be limited to 250 cars, then when up to 500, then finally made it to 1,000. I walked away and the dealers struggled like mad to sell them all. A few years later I ordered an M3CSL and had the same experience, which explains why they are cheap as chips at dealers now.

Overall it's a personal thing and the Cayman is right up my street in terms of Manufaturer, looks, price, ability etc. I used to be a regular here when I owned Scoobies and appreciated the "my car's better than that one" discussions as it all comes down to "each is his/her own" and if you like what you have why should you be bothered what anyone else says.

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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Does it list the price of the options too? Need to get down to the dealer today I think
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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The only real concern regarding financial aspect of the Cayman is the fact it seems to fill a very specialised Niche, like the GT2/GT3/RS
Those cars took a very long time to sell (996 guise and mk2 GT3) and have realised some fairly substantial losses...exclusivity doesn't always mean good residuals..lots of UK 996 GT3 RS around now for £75k on the forecourt, somewhat less on your drive.
It will be a very accomplished track car I am sure, but the days of Porsche cast iron residuals are long gone. I am going to call around the dealers this week for prices on my Boxster..will be interesting to see what hit I am going to take... maybe I'll keep the car.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Only price quoted was for basic car, no option prices so far. May go into Porsche web site later and see what my preferred choices cost on a Boxster and use that as a guide.

Chuck, have seen a few 996 GT3 RS's on forecourts recently and the temptation is there but the older, wiser financial brain says no which is alarming Not too fussed about residuals as I intend to keep the car until I decide if I want a 997 once more of the models are released, looks like 18 months to 2 years currently. also, this may be the last brand new car I buy as I appreciate what you say about residuals and this applies to nearly all cars now.

What are you looking to swap the 987 for ???

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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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A 997'S' is favourite, maybe a 997S cabrio
I've been bid £39k by a couple dealers for the car, it cost £44k new March 5th, so not as bad as I thought, haven't even lost all the VAT...cool!
Still not 100% convinced I should do it....but you only live once eh?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Old_Fart
but you only live once eh?
Exactly my thoughts
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Old May 26, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Old_Fart
A 997'S' is favourite, maybe a 997S cabrio
I've been bid £39k by a couple dealers for the car, it cost £44k new March 5th, so not as bad as I thought, haven't even lost all the VAT...cool!
Still not 100% convinced I should do it....but you only live once eh?
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Old May 26, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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Old May 26, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Looks like you're going to have to find £7,300 on top of the basic 997 'S' price for a soft top Chuck, peanuts to a man of your means

I'm going to leave my deposit (£3k if anyone is interested) on Saturday so will ask a few more questions then and drop a line in here on Tuesday if they tell me anything interesting.

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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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And I paid the deposit on my new car today, pick it up next week Frighteningly expensive as you know Yex. Decided on the cabrio as the old scooby still delivers all the coupe thrills I need. Another running in period looms
Obviously willing to sell boxster on at close to trade price if you change your mind
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Old May 26, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Frighteningly expensive as you know Yex.
It's only money

Would like to see this new toy when you have it though, not seen one in the flesh to date. Also, haven't seen that 1998 tin top jobbie you own for a while either

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