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Old 23 May 2005, 03:55 PM
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First official pics on www.germancarfans.com ... Looks lovely IMHO!
Old 23 May 2005, 03:55 PM
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Another one to get up the nose of the 911 drivers
Old 23 May 2005, 04:00 PM
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looks a bit audi TT from behind
Old 23 May 2005, 04:07 PM
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DIE 911 DIE!
Old 23 May 2005, 04:42 PM
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Nice to know the Yanks will be paying in dollars what I'm likely to have to part with in sterling
Old 23 May 2005, 04:52 PM
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I've just had my garage on the phone. I should get info tomorrow morning. He said the price was £44k

http://www2.porsche.com/cayman/pcgb.asp
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This can't be right

The basic price for the Cayman S is 50,300 euros. The vehicle costs 58,529 euros in Germany including value added tax and country-specific requirements.

The Cayman S will go on sale in the United States and Canada in mid January of 2006 at a price of $58,900 US.

I hope my sales guy got it wrong!!!
Old 23 May 2005, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadrunnerV2
He said the price was £44k
OTR???

If that's the case, I'm getting one instead of the CSL!
Old 23 May 2005, 05:04 PM
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My dealer has warned me to expect any change from £50K. His information was "iffy", his word not mine, but reckoned because of the placing of the car between the Boxster 's' and the base 997 this would be ball park.
Old 23 May 2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yex
My dealer has warned me to expect any change from £50K. His information was "iffy", his word not mine, but reckoned because of the placing of the car between the Boxster 's' and the base 997 this would be ball park.
No doubt once its all been spec'd
Old 23 May 2005, 05:07 PM
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Oh yes....the toys, the toys
Old 23 May 2005, 05:12 PM
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58,900.00 USD = 32,220.29 GBP Cayman S

53,100.00 USD = 29,045.24 GBP Boxster S (rough price)

Surely that is wrong for the Cayman S! Why should we have to pay the premium!
Old 23 May 2005, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
OTR???

If that's the case, I'm getting one instead of the CSL!
ahem, please see my reply to your CSL vs DC5 thread yesterday!!

Pistion heads has a piece on it that says that £44k is official and that includes leather and 18 inch alloys.
Old 23 May 2005, 05:16 PM
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Porsches stopped being Porsches when they started fitting Power steering, A/c and made the clutch pedal feather-light

God-forbid cooling the engine with water






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Old 23 May 2005, 05:26 PM
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Will it be faster than the boxster?
Old 23 May 2005, 05:34 PM
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Will it be faster than the boxster?
Looks like it will. Anyone know how much they weigh?
Old 23 May 2005, 05:42 PM
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US sites says 5.1 sec (Manual gearbox) 0-60mph!
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http://cars.msn.co.uk/carnews/carnews23may05/
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Sod the 0-60, or that all the low-rent potential 997 Carrera owners will buy them (pretending to be hardcore track-dayers), look at all the crap you can get in the boot :



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If DS is correct and the price is £44k including leather and 18" alloys then perhaps I'll be £6k in pocket which is nice.

However, I still have an AMV8 on order and the price on this has rocketed from the original estimate of £60k to nearer £80k as it approaches official launch date. This is far too much of a change and far too much money to have sat in the garage 5 days a week.

Until I see something in writing from a dealer I'll just keep my money in my pocket.

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Old 24 May 2005, 11:21 AM
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Hmm, seriously tempted to put a deposit down today
Old 24 May 2005, 11:35 AM
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It's in today's Autocar - page 8. S model around £44k. Bargain basement 3.0 litre along later for £35k
Old 24 May 2005, 11:58 AM
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Here's the text from the Porsche press release......

New Cayman S coupé extends the Porsche range

The new Porsche Cayman S will go on sale in the UK on 26 November, 2005. This sporty two-seater boasts a newly developed six-cylinder ‘boxer’ engine with a capacity of 3.4 litres and an output of 295 bhp (217 kW). The mid-mounted power unit delivers impressive performance, with particular emphasis on a generous power delivery at lower and medium engine speeds. The sports car’s maximum speed is 171 mph (275 km/h). With manual transmission, the Cayman S accelerates from zero to 62 mph (100 km/h) in 5.4 seconds.

Equipped with the Porsche VarioCam Plus system delivering variable intake camshaft control and valve timing, the Cayman S engine generates a torque output of 340 Nm between 4,400 and 6,000 rpm. The VarioCam Plus system was previously only available on the 911 series. Power is transmitted to the rear wheels via a six-speed manual gearbox with a short, precise shift. The transmission is a further development of that fitted to the Boxster S. The familiar five-speed Tiptronic S automatic transmission is also available on request, and features manual gear-shifting toggle buttons on the steering wheel spokes. The Tiptronic S transmission has been refined specifically for the Cayman S sports coupé, receiving a new electronic and hydraulic control unit.

While instantly recognisable as a Porsche sports car, the Cayman S is individual in its design. The front is accentuated by the oval headlamps and distinctive air intake grilles. The front fog lights, integrated in the outer air intakes, are inspired by current Porsche design philosophy. The shape of the windscreen and the pronounced roof profile accentuate the unique and dynamic front view.

The characteristic silhouette of the Cayman S is created via the newly designed coupé lines combined with a long wheelbase, a rear aspect that slopes gently downwards and side windows that share the design language of the dynamic contours of the lower body. From the rear, the Cayman S is defined by a large rear lid, powerfully sweeping wheel arches and an automatically extending spoiler. The distinctively styled dual exhaust tailpipes are located centrally below the rear bumper.

The rear lid opens upwards to provide access to the 260 litre luggage compartment. This, in conjunction with the 150 litre capacity luggage compartment in the nose, plus numerous additional storage compartments, ensures that this two-seater sports car combines real functionality with elegant aesthetic form.

The aluminium suspension that underpins the Cayman S provides a wide track which, combined with the 18 inch wheels fitted as standard, emphasises the sporty, dynamic appearance of the car. In combination with Porsche Stability Management (PSM), also a standard feature, the Cayman S chassis sets a benchmark in the area of driving dynamics and active driving safety. Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) is available as an option. When fitted, this system lowers the car by ten millimetres and automatically adjusts the suspension response ratings to the given road conditions. The driver can select ‘Normal’ or ‘Sport’ programmes via a button on the centre console.

The basic price for the Cayman S will be £43,930 including VAT, and standard equipment will include leather interior and top tinted windscreen.
Old 24 May 2005, 12:26 PM
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Howdy Yex!
Cayman, 0.1sec quicker to 100kmh than the 987'S' and looks like a Triumph GTV6
£44k basic, it really is very difficult not to add £6k of 'options' to any Porsche...metallic, sound system, PASM, full leather (CCBrakes?)...it goes on and on.
What you really want to do is buy my 2.5 month old Cobalt Blue 987'S' instead...the way I see it the Cayman will have even more of the '911 wannabee' stigma than the Boxster, which at least lets you get the roof down.
Although I find the 987 a better drive than the 996 C4S I had before I'm finding 2 seats severely limiting the amount I get to drive it...
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Originally Posted by Old_Fart
it really is very difficult not to add £6k of 'options' to any Porsche...metallic, sound system, PASM, full leather (CCBrakes?)...it goes on and on.
My understanding is that leather and CCBrakes are standard on this model?
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Chuckster

How useful are the rear seats in the 996 though? Would a gawky 9 year old fit? (no, not me).
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Carbon ceramic brakes (the new improved version that doesn't give up after 100 track miles and cost £20k to replace) and PASM are both options on the Cayman.
Rear seats of the 996/997 are ok for my 9 year old...though honestly they aren't great, I wouldn't stick him in the back of the car for 4 hour stretches. 997 is better as driver can adjust tilt on steering wheel so if you've long legs like me you can get a far better seating position in the 997, in the 996 I ended up with the seat all the way back on it's runners...don't need that on the new car since I can bend my legs now LOL
996/997 has extremely limited storage for lugguage with 4 passengers though..so it would never make a good 2+2 touring car (we did go away for a long weekend once 4 up, make sure it's warm and dry so you only need shorts n t's LOL )
Cman
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Yo, Chuckster.

Thought it wouldn't take long to fish out an other old lurker Hadn't seen your 996 around lately so thought you'd sold it, just didn't know what for. The Cayman appeared to be the better option than the AMV8, all things being considered. I am expecting to put a few extras on the car, but just under £44k for starters with leather and 18" rims is much better than I was anticipating. No way would I go for the PCCB brakes with the recent history of them failing that has been highlighted on various web forums I do expect to have the car on track whenever money and time allow it but I do know my limits and these are well shy of what the car can do, hence no need for PCCB brakes. Am looking at metallic paint (seal grey looks nice), PASM of course and an uprated sound system. Other than that all other stuff is really cosmetic and gets away from the fact the car is designed to be driven as opposed to be posed in

Anytime you want to lend me the 987 happy to look after it like a kid for you and return in as new condition....may even leave a couple of bottles of Chateau Neuf in it

Yex
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It may well be a drivers car as opposed to a posers car but it will still be bought mainly by posers. In no time at all they will be everywhere just like boxters. Does'nt mean its probably not a good car but I can see it being very common place and relative exclusivity is part of the pleasure of owning a marque.

How about a limited edition(50) 240 BHP supercharged Exige. 0-100 in less than 10secs, BHP/Tonne = 266. £43K
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ps not knocking Porkers or their owners. Love to own one(only a turbo though!)


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