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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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PM me your email and I'll get you signed up. The track days are much more fun when you're part of the forum.

Oulten Park at the end of Feb, then Spa. I should get a few others in and I'm hoping to do Donnigton this year too.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Cheers Floyd - email addy is gilesbetts@btinternet.com and username is Giles.

Yeah I love Donny!
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Shamefully missed your burfday Buddy, hopefully you had a great day
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Noted... Call me.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Great read Floyd.

I am aiming to keep my car (99 Classic) looking standard and have no intention of using it on track.

I am in the process of following you lead and porting my standard manifolds, cross pipe, and up pipe. I am just taking them out to the gasket edges and cleaning up the internals.

My question is about the turbo, how easy is it to take the turbo apart to give that a tidy up? Or should I leave it alone?

Also as the engine is out of the car is it worth fitting an up graded inlet pipe to the turbo?

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Finbin
My question is about the turbo, how easy is it to take the turbo apart to give that a tidy up? Or should I leave it alone?

Also as the engine is out of the car is it worth fitting an up graded inlet pipe to the turbo?
I tried to do similar on my MY00, I think it will depend on the turbo. I had one that I couldn't get apart and it took David @ API some serious work to separate so much so that it was damaged. He commented on how hard it was compared to all the others he separates.

I'm sure I read that it was worth doing the inlet pipe I may be mistaken. But will you be removing the inlet manifold? If not it's quite difficult to fit.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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[QUOTE=olliecampbell;10268896]I tried to do similar on my MY00, I think it will depend on the turbo. I had one that I couldn't get apart and it took David @ API some serious work to separate so much so that it was damaged. He commented on how hard it was compared to all the others he separates.

I'm sure I read that it was worth doing the inlet pipe I may be mistaken. But will you be removing the inlet manifold? If not it's quite difficult to fit.[/QUOTE


Thanks for the reply.

Just returned in from the garage after removing exhaust, turbo and inlet manifold. I think I will leave the turbo alone, but am tempted to change the inlet pipe as the OE is quite narrow under the manifold, just got to decide which one and save up to buy it.

I have taken quite a few photos to help when I put it all back together after I have cleaned everything up, as there are pipes and wires going all over the place!!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Don't worry there's always bits left over afterwards! I've just managed to put mine back together and have loads of photos so just ask
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Don't mess with turbo internals. Inlet pipe can be swapped for a later model (STI) but Spec C probably won't fit.

Have taken the car to DN4 at the Ring in the summer and recently to Spa. Not changed anything apart from using the new EBC Blues all round. They worked well but had a little less feel than the Yellows/carbons f/r combo that I usually use. Low dust, no squeal.

I was new to Spa so I grabbed Chris Harris (Evo/Autocar Journo/racer) for some tuition. he's really good at that! I then got him to drive the car, which was enlightening especially when hassled GT3 RS's out of the way with headlight flashing. lol

The car is ready for Phase II.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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I've just around to fitting my Tein camber or caster adjustable top mounts. Despite doing an internet search and asking on various forums, I wasn't able to get definitive info on how to fit them...

The standard mount gives no clue as it's a central position:
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The Tein mounts are marked L & R, but this depends on ou interpretation of L & R IYSWIM.


I decided I wanted more camber rather than caster but even so you can get the alignment to change by switching the sides:
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I went for position 2 in the end as this seems to line up with the hub natural angle.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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Trying to get the top nut off the old mount was a right PITA!!! I eventually took the strut and mount to a tyre fitters, who wizzed it off with an air gun. I had a deep off set spanner but there are only two small 8mm flats to hold the tube from spinning...

While the strut was off I cleaned them up and reversed the springs to helper on the bottom. I don't think it makes a difference but that's what the AST brochure shows.

I also purchased some covers from Ebay to help keep the crud out. These are made by Kirky so hopefully not rubbish:
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They have velcro and can be adjusted but need to be fitted over the top, so has to be done with the mount removed.

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Max camber from hub dialled in, but 0 degrees on top mount until I can get it to a garage for alignment proper but only after rear camber bolts fitted.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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my teins were fitted the same as position one.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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L depicts left and R depicts right.

The way you have the in picture 1 is how they are meant to be set up.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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14N-FR I guessed what L & R meant! The tricky bit is deciding if it means L & R from the drivers seat or looking at the car from the front...

Anyway, Powerstation fit them like position 2 as per Graham's ~(911) project thread page 9:


I think I can get caster and camber in position 2.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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"R" is drivers side as in right hand drive car and vice versa.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Yes, but I've also heard that R is drivers side for all things inside the car but when viewing externally, it is the other way. Better to say off side.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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L is for passenger side R is drivers side. The camber is designed to adjust the top of the shock from left to right
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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forget whats left and right it'll work or it won't so just get it finnished
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
14N-FR I guessed what L & R meant! The tricky bit is deciding if it means L & R from the drivers seat or looking at the car from the front...
You always look as if your looking through the windscreen at the bonnet in a car so L is left and R is right.

With regards to the mounts, picture 1 is the correct fitment. That amount of castor adjustment is not needed as you will end up effecting the self centring nature of your steering as well as upsetting the straight line stability.

You will find you need to mount them as per picture 1 to achieve a decent amount of camber (-2.5 degrees), as I found when fitting my BC coilovers last week.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:02 AM
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So, Powerstation have got it wrong?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Picture 2 fitment always seems to work for me, with as much castor as possible and then fine tune the camber with the OEM camber bolts.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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I'm thinking 5 degrees caster, -2.5 deg camber front (top mount adj and oe bolts) and -2 deg camber rear with new bolts, slight toe in front and rear 0 toe, front a/r to hardest, rear to middle. Fine tune from there with damping towards hard on AST's. Springs a 50/40 f/r. I would like 55/45 if available.

This is track orientated setting as this is where it mostly lives now.
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Originally Posted by Floyd
So, Powerstation have got it wrong?
Originally Posted by E_M_B
Picture 2 fitment always seems to work for me, with as much castor as possible and then fine tune the camber with the OEM camber bolts.
I am in no way saying power station have it wrong at all, its just that its AST collies they are fitting which are different to the Tien collies you are fitting. I have found that come collies fit top mounts like the AST's and some like the Tiens/BC's. With L and R on them one would presume you fit the L to the left side and R to the right side as intended by the manufacturer.

I found with my BC's which has the exact same markings as your then top mounts, that even adjusting the front camber bolts I could only get a maximum of -0.5degrees when the top mounts were set at 'zero'.

To get more I have to adjust the top mounts.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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For clarity, I'm fitting AST coil overs to the Tein top mounts.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:24 AM
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Hi Floyd,

Good luck with the suspension, hope it handles well, I've not been on Northloop for ages to update my project thread or join in the fun as everytime I try to load the forum page, it seems to take forever to load, not sure whats going on, it's either my work laptop having a paddy (most likely) or the forum doesnt like me anymore

Will try and get on there with my own laptop soon as I fancy doing a few trackdays with you lot this year and putting names to faces
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Definitely get into the NL group. We'll look after you as there's a really good community if you're prepared to invest your time on the forum.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Finally finished the camber bolt swap on the rear yesterday. Confused that the one's I removed, which I thought had been there since the car was new, looked identical to the new Whiteline one's. I measured them and they are the same!

The Whiteline a/r bars are both 22mm f/r with front at soft and rear currently at middle already.
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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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I fitted my track rubber this w/e and the clearance between the rear tyre and the coil over spring height adjust was very small. I had to resort to some filing of the mount.

The coil over covers had to be removed from the rear too as they rubbed on the tyres. So I have two covers that can be fitted on the front going spare...
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