No problem..

 

Hi Simon,

911 asked a Q, do you have my logs? I think i'm on a bar of boost by 3400rpm and then this increases to 1.5 up to 6000rpm. I've not really had a clear road where I can look at the gauges and speedo rather than the road in front.

The RR graph will be the best thing to look at when I get my mits on it saturday week from memory I think I'm running 23 degrees of timing....if that helps.

Bryan

 

Thanks for not forgetting me!
I'm in for a remap with AndyF on my modded Sti V3 so want to try to get a fatter boost (ie 1.5 with a 20g) in the mid range. We fell a bit short on the first map.
Graham

 

I do I'll try and get them off the lappy at lunchtime.

Simon

 

Alright bryan,i hope all is well
here are some pics i have found a bit b4 and after ..
she looks a bit different now ..
i do miss her lol









the pictures kinda tell their own story

 

Hi Simon,

I do like her with black wheels......they may be getting changed well today is the day that we've all been waiting for, yep I'm on the rollers at PE this morning I don't really know what I'm expecting but I know she's quick on the road, 350 I'll be happy with any more i'll be over the moon......any less...new project and a divorce.

I'll call from PE after the run with the breaking news....I must go and get some sleep, I'm up 3 hours....

Rgds, Bryan

 

Fingers crossed for you!
Graham


Full details and pics/vids expected.(asap)

 

good luck m8 hope it goes well,i have found loads more pics in various specs let me know if you want more
Si

 

Here she is on the rollers,













They only got the car to hold 1.3 bar of boost on the rollers on the road she pulls to a little over 1.5 and holds 1.5. Chris did say a few tweak here and there on the map would achieve a bit more power but I'm at the limits of the TD05 16g, I knew I should have gone bigger at the start They also said that the link isn't a great boost controller I thought any aftermarket ecu would control this better.

Any thoughts

Doh forgot to add the figures - 313 bhp 327lb/ft

 

That is a great torque figure for the car!
Thought of an Apexi FC?
And an 18g (or 20g)
etc....it never stops.

Bet the car drives well?

Graham.

 

Hi Graham

The car pulls like a train on the road, I'm thinking af an AVCR to go with the turbo I have already got...If I go bigger with the turbo will I not be in the same position with having no proper boost control?

Have you got a mail address I could send a short video too?

Rgds, Bryan

 

Jussdrop

Much much better than Putfile.

Took me ages to find it.
Graham.

http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?use...4&ctime=131625

 

Cheers Graham

http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?use...5&ctime=102300

 

Nice to see the video Bryan, seeing as you were clearly expecting a lot more than they could get, d'you think it was purely boost related, and therefore on the road you get more due to higher boost, or do you think that there's something holding it back.......

Ron...

 

If the car has been set up entirely on the road it's not unusual to find that it doesn't produce the same level of boost on thr rollers, because it won't load up in the same way.

The Torque looks mighty impressive, if you compare it with my similar '98 car as it was on the original 2 litre UK engine; with the MD304, HKS exhaust manifold, HKS FMIC, a self built induction kit, 440 cc injectors and link ecu you not only have more torque but it comes in quicker and higher too: engine bay shot PE power plot

although it also tails off sooner

Still, stick with the link and talk to Simon about an AVCR. A 6 row Link is right on the edge of it's capabilities over 1.4 bar as the top row of ignition and fueling is for 1 bar and above, with the increments between each mapped row being 0.4 bar so the ability of the ecu to interpolate is stretched

 

Just after I had my Sti I had fuel cut probs, and being a real novice at Impreza's I contacted PE for help.
Ended up down there for a Blitz boost controller @ 1.3 bar and a RR run.
The car had a 3'' decat and straight optimax that's all.

It gave 314 bhp and 280 lbft and drove superbly (and cost £900, screwed or what?), anyway, thought that might help with the thinking on the result.

Graham.

 

Ron,

I dont think there is anything wrong with the car, the video shows chris calling over the other member of staff, at this point they run the car up again and then he walks away to the computer. I stopped filming as I thought there was a problem, but when I walked over to him he said that they think the car was spinning up on the rollers and didn't have time to re-run the car.


Tim,

I think the reason that the torque comes in quick is that it is a standard TD05 on a 2.2, so there is more grunt lower down the RPM. I think the reason it tails off is that the turbo is maxed out at 5600 RPM, I think if I had a 18 or 20g wheel the lag would be greater and the torque would come in further up the rev range. One thing they did point out is the car is running rich top end which I knew anyway, Chris did say take some fuel out and add a little timing.

Is there a chip set you can buy for the earlier 6 row?


Graham,

I think there were a lot of people there expecting more than they got, the guys with the 2.5 didn't see the 400/400 they thought they had. I think the highest of the day was Bob Rawles old car that Hol's got now.


I think I will run with it at the moment and send a few mails, sit down and do some homework.

It still makes me grin thats the main thing.

Bryan

 

Beware of getting caught-up in the chasing numbers-on-RR's condition.

If it goes well on the road....that's where it counts.
Scared to say this on here, but isn't a car mapped on the road 'better' than one on the RR?

Graham.

 

You know, I'd forgotted you'd built a 2.2 yep, that would explain it!

When you say a chip set of the earlier 6 row, do you mean to convert it to offer more rows, or control higher boost? In either case I don't know is the simple answer...your best bet would be to ask BRD

 

Dodgy area Graham, there's been a big shouting match going on about it in the general forum recently if you fancy entering that mine field

IMHO each has it merits, and I shall be making use of both with my car

 

I think you're right there, the fan they had was small compared to the one at SAS(japanese tuning)

I think it converts the earlier 6 row to a 10 row as on later cars, I think.

Off to find the thread ;o)

 

I don't have the energy or the expertise to argue, but my Sti was mapped on the road by you know who, and it was painless, safe, and the car was sublime after (and still is).
It went to 2 rolling roads, Well Lane and PS at different times of the year and gave similar outputs (407 and 380 respectivly).

It will be done on the road again in mid march.

Graham.

 

Here's the thread I was on about

Graham, my car on the Link was always mapped on the road, but after my brush with the courts I've gone right off high speed driving on the road. There are areas that really can only be addressed on the road, but there is a lot that can be done on a good dyno...In my case there'll be a mix of road, dyno and airfield used for my new build

Bryan, th 10 row chip has been 'in the offing' for the earlier cars for so long now I gave up hope and sold my Link, replacing it with something a bit OTT, but it'll do the job

 

Bryan
I have the latest chip for the V3(MY97/8) Link and it is still a 6 row!

 

Hi Bryan,

Sorry you didn't get the figure you wanted on the rollers, as others have said it is not going to load on the rollers the same as it does on the road.

I know we discussed the boost control a few times when mapping it as I would have rather stuck to 1.4bar max but the link just wouldn't hold it.. partly due to the Links boost control and partly due to surge on the small (for 2.2) turbo. Also the Link is seeing lower boost than the Defi's at iirc arounf 1.45bar held.

This is also why the power drops off.. I expect if it didn't strangle it in the higher rpm the figures would be different.
The torque curve is very nice imho and obviously why it pulls so well on the road and which is ultimately what we aim for.. although nice big figures to back it up would be nice.

AVC-R would control the boost better or perhaps even a dawes but on the road the boost is controlled perfectly on the link.

Simon

 

Also all the numbers from the day seem a bit low.. could be the fan you mention or the load lower on the rollers?

Simon

 

Torque is everything.(especially if it arrives early and stays flat and lasts for a long time!)
Graham

 

Oh well gone and done it now, bought a TD05 20g.

;o)

 

Good boy Can you buy me one as well

Blimey haven't been on the old SN for a while

MAFFA

 

Hi Matt,

Any news on the job front?

I get the turbo tonight and it's being fitted tomorrow by Gary and me at motorworld, the bad news is that my gearbox is making a horrible whurring noise. I have mentioned this to a couple of people and they have said change the oil and check the drain plug for metal filings . if it is fecked I have a STI type uk 6 speeder lined up but could do without the expense bring on th OT ;o)

Bryan

I feel a remap coming on