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03 November 2004, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IanW
OK look at it like this as well....a member of your family gets knocked down by a car with an illegally sized numberplate, witnesses see it happen and all they can say is it was a red car, but i couldn't read the numberplate as the lettering was too small, or i couldn't read the numberplate because the letters were all joined up and unclear.
What can the police do to help catch the person who did it in that situation? When a witness may have been able to read a legal numberplate without any problems?
If you are going to run with an illegal numberplate then you can expect to be stopped at some point, sooner or later, even more so in these days of ANPR as well. Accept it, the same as if you are driving round breaking the speed limit, law of probablity says that you will get caught at some point.
What can the police do to help catch the person who did it in that situation? When a witness may have been able to read a legal numberplate without any problems?
If you are going to run with an illegal numberplate then you can expect to be stopped at some point, sooner or later, even more so in these days of ANPR as well. Accept it, the same as if you are driving round breaking the speed limit, law of probablity says that you will get caught at some point.
Don't disagree - but then again there are more import things like no insurance and unroadworthy vehicles driven by ******* is what I'm saying
Having been hit by someone without insurance in a stolen car I have first hand experience - so you still don't always have the opportunity to catch the scumbag whether the car has a small number plate or a standard one!
03 November 2004, 01:20 PM
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Imported vehicles can have a LEGAL smaller plate. Below is an extract from the DVLA regulations. I have a plate made up to this specification and I keep a copy of the regulation in the glove box.
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Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
_______________________________________
Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
03 November 2004, 01:26 PM
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be carefull to many pulls for the same thing and they can take the number plate from your possesion with out a refund
sorry to hear about your tug
sorry to hear about your tug
03 November 2004, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
03 November 2004, 03:00 PM
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Had my old car broken into and called the police. All they were interested in was my small plate and checking the tread on my tyres.
The criminals were never caught, and i ended up with a £30 fibe for an illegal plate.
Justice????
The criminals were never caught, and i ended up with a £30 fibe for an illegal plate.
Justice????
03 November 2004, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Had my old car broken into and called the police. All they were interested in was my small plate and checking the tread on my tyres.
The criminals were never caught, and i ended up with a £30 fibe for an illegal plate.
Justice????
The criminals were never caught, and i ended up with a £30 fibe for an illegal plate.
Justice????
03 November 2004, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gossythevaleter
be carefull to many pulls for the same thing and they can take the number plate from your possesion with out a refund
sorry to hear about your tug
sorry to hear about your tug
u gotta see these lol
03 November 2004, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
Imported vehicles can have a LEGAL smaller plate. Below is an extract from the DVLA regulations. I have a plate made up to this specification and I keep a copy of the regulation in the glove box.
_______________________________________
Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
_______________________________________
Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
03 November 2004, 07:36 PM
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LOL even got pulled with My ... Quote " NOT TOO MY LIKING FONT" Number plate
S3OOBYC number plate
it reads S300BYC !!! Hello its the same as it is ??? they just pull us to prove a point.. they can....
All Full Size Fonts. ....
S3OOBYC number plate
it reads S300BYC !!! Hello its the same as it is ??? they just pull us to prove a point.. they can....
All Full Size Fonts. ....
03 November 2004, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by M444GY
what a load of ****. what f*ckin idiot makes these laws . its a ****in number plate ffs
Exactly, so why can't you just leave it as standard? Quit ya whining
03 November 2004, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by M444GY
yep i know ive got some new ones made up now anyways
u gotta see these lol
u gotta see these lol
last time i had some made got the third degree at halfords
its easier to get a green card to work in the states
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04 November 2004, 02:42 PM
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Coppers r a pain in the fcukin ****!!
Theres always a copper when you dont need one!! And when you do want one to be driviving past a rude boy in his 1.1 corsa merit attempting to burnout, there aint eva one.
Did you get fined for the numberplate been to small??
Theres always a copper when you dont need one!! And when you do want one to be driviving past a rude boy in his 1.1 corsa merit attempting to burnout, there aint eva one.
Did you get fined for the numberplate been to small??
04 November 2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by little'un
Don't disagree - but then again there are more import things like no insurance and unroadworthy vehicles driven by ******* is what I'm saying
Having been hit by someone without insurance in a stolen car I have first hand experience - so you still don't always have the opportunity to catch the scumbag whether the car has a small number plate or a standard one!
Having been hit by someone without insurance in a stolen car I have first hand experience - so you still don't always have the opportunity to catch the scumbag whether the car has a small number plate or a standard one!
Fact of the matter of this is simple, if you are going to run with an illegally spaced plate then at some point in time you will be caught, and you could well be fined.
04 November 2004, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
Imported vehicles can have a LEGAL smaller plate. Below is an extract from the DVLA regulations. I have a plate made up to this specification and I keep a copy of the regulation in the glove box.
_______________________________________
Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
_______________________________________
Size and spacing of characters: special cases
14A. –
(1) This regulation applies in relation to any vehicle imported into the UK which,
(a) does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval;
(b) is so constructed that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration mark in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.
(2) In relation to a vehicle to which this regulation applies -
(a) each character in the registration mark must be 64 millimetres high;
(b) the width of each character of the mark, other than the letter "I" and the figure "1", must be 44 millimetres;
(c) the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a mark must be 10 millimetres;
(d) the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10 millimetres;
(e) the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5 millimetres;
(f) the width of a margin between the mark and the top and lateral sides of the registration plate must be not less than 5 millimetres;
(g) the space between the bottom of the mark and the bottom of the registration plate must be not less than 13 millimetres; but, within that space, the space between the bottom of the mark and the top of the name and postcode of the person by whom the plate was supplied must be not less than 5 millimetres."[3]
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport.
David Jamieson
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Transport
24th October 2002
04 November 2004, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by M444GY
what a load of ****. what f*ckin idiot makes these laws . its a ****in number plate ffs
M
06 November 2004, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by S.B.
Only if there isnt space to fit a standard uk size one
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06 November 2004, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Patriot
If it's an import then the letters can be motorcycle size, my front plate was a large square thing blocking most of the grill, now it's a lot smaller and looks better, and it's legal.
martin
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I got pulled in Jan, 3rd time out in my classic and was hit with a £30 fine to which I did not pay in time and still to this day heard nothing nothing of.
The plate that was on the scoob when I bought was used as a template to measure up the same size though with my letters - turns out this was illegal, would like to see what urs looks like as mine is an import and to see if I have any legs to stand on!
I do agree now that if its an illegal plate then the coppers have every right to pull you over. I dont really agree with the constant fining when there is people out there causing crimes such as hit and runs...
And everytime I am out, I see at least one plate in my area that is a illiegal or is a different colour, example, lotus, they have even smaller plates on them but never seem to be pulled........
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