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Old 16 August 2004, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
HAHA - you ever rowed 2000m? Pretty explosive. 5-6 minutes of pure anaerobic power.
know many black guys row sub 6???

and 5-6 mins is a LONG time to be anerobic
Old 16 August 2004, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
know many black guys row sub 6???
No, I don't know of any - that's the point
Old 16 August 2004, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Pending an answer to my question at the top of this page, it might be, partly.
Damn you got to it before I zapped it

It is looking more like it is to do with social background and cost than it is to do with some genetic reason for why black should be less prevalent in swimming is what I was trying to get at. Not saying there isn't some king of advantage to being a white swimmer, just haven't found anything yet to support that
Old 16 August 2004, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
The black hurdler form Wales - Colin Jackson.
Think he is an absolute superstar, shame he retired really but i guess they all have to at some point.

He was one of my idols when i was at school, hehe!
Old 16 August 2004, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oztokyo
Hmm...money works up to a point but it's also attitude. How many sports don't have any sports institute support and we have people at the top level of American sport....Basketball and Baseball. I find when you greet someone here if you get a reply then it's more along the lines of 'could be better' or 'not bad'. At home it's usually 'good' or 'fine' or even 'great'.

Mental toughness goes a long way. Lookit how old Timmy goes up and down like a roller coaster...actually look at most British athletes besides redgrave and that distance runner bird I can't remember her name....
I'd agree that mental toughness does play a part but this can be "trained in" provided a decent sporting academy is in place.

I'm guessing that you're too young to remember but Australia used to be a sporting and cultural backwater until the government of the time began to develop an infrastructure to support them - think Australian Institute of Sport and Sydney Opera House etc etc.

Without decent grass roots training, which Australia has an abundance of you're making it very hard to find sporting success and prior to this development Australia hardly won much outside of the traditional cricket, rugby and swimming events.

I've already pointed out the relative success the UK had in the last Olympics as a result of Lotto funding but I'll stick my neck out and say that the GB Sailing team will do very well in this Olympics (barring Ainslie's unfortunate start) and this is a direct result of having the best training facilities and also being well funded. A further example would be the Rugby team which was developed along similar lines.
Old 16 August 2004, 03:20 PM
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In Miami the police were trying to recruit black officers and had to remove the "need to be able to swim" from the job requirements!
Old 16 August 2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
In Miami the police were trying to recruit black officers and had to remove the "need to be able to swim" from the job requirements!


PMSL
Old 16 August 2004, 05:02 PM
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F'D is right about the physique not being suited to swimming. (fit) African people have a lower bodyfat / muscle-bone ratio & (generally) have heavier bones- making them more dense.

As everyone knows fat is lighter than water.

The African's have to expend more energy staying afloat than Caucasians as their body it (by volume) heaver than Caucasians.

Although it's only a small difference, in a competition where every fraction of a second counts - their physique puts them at a disadvantage even before they get in the water.
Old 16 August 2004, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Wouldn't happen in 2004, and only happened when it did because half the world didn't turn up (sorry Alan!)....
Is it still the case that a white male has never run the 100m in under 10 secs?
Old 16 August 2004, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
Is it still the case that a white male has never run the 100m in under 10 secs?
ppl here would have you belive thats for socio-econmic reasons
Old 16 August 2004, 07:08 PM
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I was told years ago that the reason there were no world class black swimmers was that they had different movement in their Achilles heels and tendons which resulted in limited flexability compared to whites.

I don't know if this is true or just an urban myth.
Old 16 August 2004, 07:11 PM
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It's because they will sink FFS!
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