View Poll Results: Have standards sliped in the UK??
Yes - standards have dropped. People respect each other less.
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It hasn't changed.
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Its better now than it has ever been.
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A slip of standards.....
16 August 2004, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5 Paul
cultured?? when i stayed in Nice a few years ago it was like a ghetto,graffiti everywhere,french chavs loitering and generally being french 
We were in a 5 star hotel as well,some poor bloke had to leave his brand new 360 modena parked outside,it was right in the middle of the roughest city i've ever had the misfortune to visit.
Short helicopter trip to monaco for the grand prix tho and it was a different story
We were in a 5 star hotel as well,some poor bloke had to leave his brand new 360 modena parked outside,it was right in the middle of the roughest city i've ever had the misfortune to visit.
Short helicopter trip to monaco for the grand prix tho and it was a different story
Everywhere has **** areas, nowhere is perfect.
16 August 2004, 08:27 AM
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Some things have improved though.Treatment of minorities and Rights of consumers are two of them.
The biggest change is the growing inequality and the growth of a "poor" culture amongst those at the bottom.There is a totally separate way of life emerging for them.Cash-converters,cash for cheques,employment agencies,crap cars(uninsured probably) and dependancy on benefits.
Totally different to the 2 holiday per year,him a 320 her a new beetle,2 kids,after school activities and buy a house to let when they go to uni.
The biggest change is the growing inequality and the growth of a "poor" culture amongst those at the bottom.There is a totally separate way of life emerging for them.Cash-converters,cash for cheques,employment agencies,crap cars(uninsured probably) and dependancy on benefits.
Totally different to the 2 holiday per year,him a 320 her a new beetle,2 kids,after school activities and buy a house to let when they go to uni.
16 August 2004, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Some things have improved though.Treatment of minorities and Rights of consumers are two of them.
The biggest change is the growing inequality and the growth of a "poor" culture amongst those at the bottom.There is a totally separate way of life emerging for them.Cash-converters,cash for cheques,employment agencies,crap cars(uninsured probably) and dependancy on benefits.
Totally different to the 2 holiday per year,him a 320 her a new beetle,2 kids,after school activities and buy a house to let when they go to uni.
The biggest change is the growing inequality and the growth of a "poor" culture amongst those at the bottom.There is a totally separate way of life emerging for them.Cash-converters,cash for cheques,employment agencies,crap cars(uninsured probably) and dependancy on benefits.
Totally different to the 2 holiday per year,him a 320 her a new beetle,2 kids,after school activities and buy a house to let when they go to uni.
16 August 2004, 08:47 AM
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Education needs to be sorted imo first off. The education standards in this country aren't great unless it's private/grammar. The political correctness schools have to adhere to is an absolute joke.
The lack of the ability for schools to discipline encourages a total lack of respect. Pupils don't have to worry about being punished because they're not allowed to be, they get away with murder in school and this becomes "normal" later in life. No respect for any authority, for others or for others property.
Senior AP has hit the nail on the head re gossips etc. This country has become a nation of gossips. Magazines such as heat etc are the biggest sellers - pure gossip 5hite. Nothing of actual interest or importance. People seem to love talking behind others backs - spreading rumours, butting into business which doesn't concern them one bit, rather than concentrate on their own lifes. Gossip becomes their life, it's pathetic. Some people on here are the biggest, most vindictive gossips I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Luckily I can move on, they're still stuck in their own little self destructive worlds, unhappy unless they're making others unhappy
Also, the average british person is very arrogant and ignorant in their expectations. If expecations aren't met, the majority never do anything about it, they just sit and whinge. Gives them something else to gossip about - nothing improves bar the quantity of gossip. It's the british way of life.
The lack of the ability for schools to discipline encourages a total lack of respect. Pupils don't have to worry about being punished because they're not allowed to be, they get away with murder in school and this becomes "normal" later in life. No respect for any authority, for others or for others property.
Senior AP has hit the nail on the head re gossips etc. This country has become a nation of gossips. Magazines such as heat etc are the biggest sellers - pure gossip 5hite. Nothing of actual interest or importance. People seem to love talking behind others backs - spreading rumours, butting into business which doesn't concern them one bit, rather than concentrate on their own lifes. Gossip becomes their life, it's pathetic. Some people on here are the biggest, most vindictive gossips I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Luckily I can move on, they're still stuck in their own little self destructive worlds, unhappy unless they're making others unhappy
Also, the average british person is very arrogant and ignorant in their expectations. If expecations aren't met, the majority never do anything about it, they just sit and whinge. Gives them something else to gossip about - nothing improves bar the quantity of gossip. It's the british way of life.
16 August 2004, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
Education needs to be sorted imo first off. The education standards in this country aren't great unless it's private/grammar. The political correctness schools have to adhere to is an absolute joke.
The lack of the ability for schools to discipline encourages a total lack of respect. Pupils don't have to worry about being punished because they're not allowed to be, they get away with murder in school and this becomes "normal" later in life. No respect for any authority, for others or for others property.
Senior AP has hit the nail on the head re gossips etc. This country has become a nation of gossips. Magazines such as heat etc are the biggest sellers - pure gossip 5hite. Nothing of actual interest or importance. People seem to love talking behind others backs - spreading rumours, butting into business which doesn't concern them one bit, rather than concentrate on their own lifes. Gossip becomes their life, it's pathetic. Some people on here are the biggest, most vindictive gossips I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Luckily I can move on, they're still stuck in their own little self destructive worlds, unhappy unless they're making others unhappy
Also, the average british person is very arrogant and ignorant in their expectations. If expecations aren't met, the majority never do anything about it, they just sit and whinge. Gives them something else to gossip about - nothing improves bar the quantity of gossip. It's the british way of life.
The lack of the ability for schools to discipline encourages a total lack of respect. Pupils don't have to worry about being punished because they're not allowed to be, they get away with murder in school and this becomes "normal" later in life. No respect for any authority, for others or for others property.
Senior AP has hit the nail on the head re gossips etc. This country has become a nation of gossips. Magazines such as heat etc are the biggest sellers - pure gossip 5hite. Nothing of actual interest or importance. People seem to love talking behind others backs - spreading rumours, butting into business which doesn't concern them one bit, rather than concentrate on their own lifes. Gossip becomes their life, it's pathetic. Some people on here are the biggest, most vindictive gossips I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Luckily I can move on, they're still stuck in their own little self destructive worlds, unhappy unless they're making others unhappy
Also, the average british person is very arrogant and ignorant in their expectations. If expecations aren't met, the majority never do anything about it, they just sit and whinge. Gives them something else to gossip about - nothing improves bar the quantity of gossip. It's the british way of life.
Your comments are proper Bo!! .....selecta.
Nice one Craig.
Results of the actual poll say it all. I was a member of the "England is the best country in the world, everywhere else is a ****hole/developing country".....then I actually saw alot of the world and my opiniojns have reversed.
There are worse.....but there are alot better!!
Jim Davidson has emigrated to Dubai. Someonme said "why, there's nothing there". In which he replied (with a sigh) "comments like that are the reason I am leaving".
People assume Dubai is a dump. Wrong.
16 August 2004, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
Some people on here are the biggest, most vindictive gossips I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Luckily I can move on, they're still stuck in their own little self destructive worlds, unhappy unless they're making others unhappy
You're right - SN is one of the worst examples of this - just look at the Blunkett having an affair thread. Several posters on there are sitting in judgement all with their own snidy little agenda when in reality it's none of their business.
16 August 2004, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
Looks like things are beginning to improve after all.
Granted he *was* a bit of a *** but he seems to have mellowed a lot.
He's gone to live somewhere nice, respect to that.
16 August 2004, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Not sure about gossips,but we do seem to be living our lives "through" other people rather than ourselves.
People love gossiping about others. TV like Big Brother doesn't help. Its considered "cool" to be a c.u.n.t.
16 August 2004, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5 Paul
cultured?? when i stayed in Nice a few years ago it was like a ghetto,graffiti everywhere,french chavs loitering and generally being french
We were in a 5 star hotel as well,some poor bloke had to leave his brand new 360 modena parked outside,it was right in the middle of the roughest city i've ever had the misfortune to visit.
Short helicopter trip to monaco for the grand prix tho and it was a different story
We were in a 5 star hotel as well,some poor bloke had to leave his brand new 360 modena parked outside,it was right in the middle of the roughest city i've ever had the misfortune to visit.
Short helicopter trip to monaco for the grand prix tho and it was a different story
Incidently, if the Internet had existed 50 years ago, I wonder how many of our Fathers and Grandfathers would have started similar threads? Quite a few I reckon. Things have certainly changed, but I don't believe that we are unique in thinking this.
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16 August 2004, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
I would agree Nice is not the greatest of places. The French have a saying "France begins at the Pyrenees", which is a reference to the huge immigrant problem that they themselves face. It is not just an English problem.
Incidently, if the Internet had existed 50 years ago, I wonder how many of our Fathers and Grandfathers would have started similar threads? Quite a few I reckon. Things have certainly changed, but I don't believe that we are unique in thinking this.
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Incidently, if the Internet had existed 50 years ago, I wonder how many of our Fathers and Grandfathers would have started similar threads? Quite a few I reckon. Things have certainly changed, but I don't believe that we are unique in thinking this.
Chris
The world generally by definition is not improving but England (due to massive over population amongst other things) is in a bigger, faster decline.
16 August 2004, 10:18 AM
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Incidently, if the Internet had existed 50 years ago, I wonder how many of our Fathers and Grandfathers would have started similar threads? Quite a few I reckon. Things have certainly changed, but I don't believe that we are unique in thinking this
16 August 2004, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
We're getting alot worse alot quicker.
The world generally by definition is not improving but England (due to massive over population amongst other things) is in a bigger, faster decline.
The world generally by definition is not improving but England (due to massive over population amongst other things) is in a bigger, faster decline.
16 August 2004, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
Possibly, but over time important areas like education should improve, not decline, including its environment which leads to education of standards and responsibilities.
....which leads to little ******* everywhere.
The Les Battersby element is rife the country over - most people simply don't see it. We, however do.
16 August 2004, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Not sure what you're asking for but our population is over 60 million.
16 August 2004, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
Figures showing Britain in a faster 'decline' compared to the rest of the world. How did you measure this?
With the other 90% of people on this thread......eyes.
16 August 2004, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
Ahh, I thought you were using facts and objectiveness in your argument.. apologies.
You can't use facts and stats to quantify this argument.
Apology accepted.
16 August 2004, 10:33 AM
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Ahh, I thought you were using facts and objectiveness in your argument.. apologies
Proof above that education standards have slipped
16 August 2004, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
Very objective comment. Argument? A question has been asked, where's the argument?
Proof above that education standards have slipped
Proof above that education standards have slipped
16 August 2004, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
The Les Battersby element is rife the country over - most
people simply don't see it. We, however do.
people simply don't see it. We, however do.
16 August 2004, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Faire D'Income
Err, why? An argument can be a position in a debate or a point of view held by an individual or part of someone's reasoning process. Why does that prove that education standards have slipped?
Cheek, tongue, in.
16 August 2004, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Forgive me for asking, but who or what is Les Battersby?
lol. Sorry, he is a character on Coronation Street.
http://bbhilda.topcities.com/LesBattersby_338x374.jpg
16 August 2004, 10:46 AM
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Err, why? An argument can be a position in a debate or a point of view held by an individual or part of someone's reasoning process. Why does that prove that education standards have slipped?
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
lol. Sorry, he is a character on Coronation Street.
http://bbhilda.topcities.com/LesBattersby_338x374.jpg
http://bbhilda.topcities.com/LesBattersby_338x374.jpg
tiggers.
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When someone says that Britains standards are declining and that they are declining at a faster rate than the rest of the world, I would have thought they would have some evidence that backs this massive claim. I have neither said I agree or disagree with the statement, but I wouldn't say something like that without at least one bit of evidence.
Eyes, lol.
Eyes, lol.
16 August 2004, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by darts_aint_sport
When someone says that Britains standards are declining and that they are declining at a faster rate than the rest of the world, I would have thought they would have some evidence that backs this massive claim. I have neither said I agree or disagree with the statement, but I wouldn't say something like that without at least one bit of evidence.
Eyes, lol.
Eyes, lol.
Ears as well.
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