gauging interest for potential GruppeS headers (v2)! GB!
Chrome - as per PM, thanks very much for getting mine prioritised - much appreciated. 
It's a shame they got the bung sizes wrong though - the up-pipe needs something like a 10mm plug, not 18mm as you were originally informed. Hopefully i'll be able to find something suitable by Monday, but otherwise - well impressed.

It's a shame they got the bung sizes wrong though - the up-pipe needs something like a 10mm plug, not 18mm as you were originally informed. Hopefully i'll be able to find something suitable by Monday, but otherwise - well impressed.
fitted them, but am going to have to refit i didnt fit them too well and have a little bit of a gas leaking out at the uppipe, must have got carried away fitting them (a) btw whats all this about bungs...? what are they meant to do, am i missing something by not having one?? cheers
ScoobyDoo69
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Chrome - unfortunately not. As you say, the 18mm one is fine, but the 14mm plug is simply the wrong size. Pirtek don't make anything small enough (as i say, it looks like it's 10mm), so i'm hoping B&Q or the local hardware shop will come to the rescue!!
Dyney - you sure? Mine were in amongst the bubble wrap, along with the fixing studs. They're definitely not at the bottom of the box or something?
Dyney - you sure? Mine were in amongst the bubble wrap, along with the fixing studs. They're definitely not at the bottom of the box or something?
Originally Posted by Dyney
Were we getting gaskets with these?
I didn't get any
I didn't get any


I *think* the gaskets were with the up-pipe's ONLY ?!?... I must have forgotten to open your box and double check. sorry

I have got in touch with Max- orders@gruppe-s.com and asked if he can send any gaskets that are missing! can everyone check their packages please?
Dyney: ** You can have my gaskets, as you are in the middle of finshing your build! **
really really sorry about this Iain!
I will have the other ones sent by Max in the next few days as im not under time pressure.... if anyone esle is missing them let me know ASAP
SD69- yh mobile voicemail
turboMonkeyRacer- yh mobile voicemail
Last edited by chrome; Sep 10, 2004 at 11:57 PM.
tel: yup. your right 
the up- pipe bung (M14x1.5) is way too big!
FFS...
will mail max and find out wtf is going on..
IS ANYONE ELSE MISSING GASKETS?????
PM/Email/phone me ASAP plz as Im going to get onto Max tonight and sort it!
apologies for the oversight

the up- pipe bung (M14x1.5) is way too big!

FFS...
will mail max and find out wtf is going on..
IS ANYONE ELSE MISSING GASKETS?????
PM/Email/phone me ASAP plz as Im going to get onto Max tonight and sort it!
apologies for the oversight
Last edited by chrome; Sep 10, 2004 at 11:49 PM.
hi chrome, sorry i missed your call chrome was in the shower (bit late i no), but no i didnt get any gaskets
the needing of the bungs might explain why i have some leakage, i'll put the others back on then for the meanwhile, how much are these bungs gonna cost me? cheers, and thanks for letting me know whats going on
ScoobyDoo69
EDIT where do these bungs go? lol sorry for being awkward
the needing of the bungs might explain why i have some leakage, i'll put the others back on then for the meanwhile, how much are these bungs gonna cost me? cheers, and thanks for letting me know whats going onScoobyDoo69
EDIT where do these bungs go? lol sorry for being awkward
Last edited by ScoobyDoo69; Sep 11, 2004 at 12:11 AM.
kostas: Sorry- know it;s late, but thought it was urgent enough to call you..
bungs should be no more than a couple of quid..
*DONT* buy em from tuners at silly prices (over £10!)...
got to pirtek or thinkautomotive.... think' charge 2.50 minimum delivery charge.. doh whole lot (m18 and M14) came to £4.72
but of course I need a different size now
so that TWO gaskets we've not got.. FFS
Have mailed max to ask for gaskets and correct bung size!
bungs should be no more than a couple of quid..
*DONT* buy em from tuners at silly prices (over £10!)...
got to pirtek or thinkautomotive.... think' charge 2.50 minimum delivery charge.. doh whole lot (m18 and M14) came to £4.72
but of course I need a different size now

so that TWO gaskets we've not got.. FFS

Have mailed max to ask for gaskets and correct bung size!
SD69- need your address to send the gaskets to driect from the US!
Dyney- will send you mine tomorrow AM.. to help get that build complete!
Max is finding out about the bung sizes from his engineers in the next hour or two...
Dyney- will send you mine tomorrow AM.. to help get that build complete!

Max is finding out about the bung sizes from his engineers in the next hour or two...
Chrome,
Don't worry about sending yours
Not you fault mate, and it shouldn't hold me up.
You did and excellent job with the GB and the price you got was silly
hence why it was sooooooo popular!!
I have some std gaskets but not sure if they are a different size.
Jimmy you will have PM shortly
Don't worry about sending yours

Not you fault mate, and it shouldn't hold me up.
You did and excellent job with the GB and the price you got was silly
hence why it was sooooooo popular!! I have some std gaskets but not sure if they are a different size.
Jimmy you will have PM shortly
i thought that OE gaskets were different size to GruppeS?
Have gotten in touch with max anyway and have two more gaskets/bolts on the way...
waiting to hear on the bung size
Jimmy- if you do give dyney yours, let me know and I can send on the extra set from Max
Have gotten in touch with max anyway and have two more gaskets/bolts on the way...
waiting to hear on the bung size
Jimmy- if you do give dyney yours, let me know and I can send on the extra set from Max
For the clueless technical people like me, how many gaskets should we have received?
I have two (which are for either end of the uppipe), but no more.
And looking at the Gruppe-S website this morning there appears to be supplied gaskets for the manifold as well.
I must confess that when I opened the package yesterday I was more interested in the shiny stuff and only gave the gaskets a cursory glance at the bottom of the box to note that I did have some, but didn't look any further as to actual quantity.
Presumably I need some extras as well?
I have two (which are for either end of the uppipe), but no more.
And looking at the Gruppe-S website this morning there appears to be supplied gaskets for the manifold as well.I must confess that when I opened the package yesterday I was more interested in the shiny stuff and only gave the gaskets a cursory glance at the bottom of the box to note that I did have some, but didn't look any further as to actual quantity.

Presumably I need some extras as well?
it's my own fault.. in my haste to close this saga, I stupidly didnt double check EVERY box and EVERY pack of gaskets.. i feel rather p'd off and a bit guilty now..
stupid me for expecting Gruppe-S to get everything spot on... 
I'm not a happy bunny!!!
(as Im sure you guys arent)
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I just checked via phone with P20Spd as to what he got when he ordered manifold and upipe from GS:
if you bought JUST the manifold- you should have: gaskets for heads (ie 2)
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if you bought manfiold AND up-pipe you should have:
you should have: gaskets for heads (ie 2)
gasket for collector to up-pipe (1)
gasket for up-pipe to turbo. (1)
4 in total.
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So, to complete the roster of c0ckups: please sign below with your parts recieved, your name and how many gaskets you actually have in your possession!!
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chrome 2 gaskets! 2 missing!
stupid me for expecting Gruppe-S to get everything spot on... 
I'm not a happy bunny!!!
(as Im sure you guys arent)-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I just checked via phone with P20Spd as to what he got when he ordered manifold and upipe from GS:
if you bought JUST the manifold- you should have: gaskets for heads (ie 2)
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if you bought manfiold AND up-pipe you should have:
you should have: gaskets for heads (ie 2)
gasket for collector to up-pipe (1)
gasket for up-pipe to turbo. (1)
4 in total.
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So, to complete the roster of c0ckups: please sign below with your parts recieved, your name and how many gaskets you actually have in your possession!!

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chrome 2 gaskets! 2 missing!
Last edited by chrome; Sep 11, 2004 at 10:41 AM.
These things happen, Chrome. No need for you to feel guilty. 
P.S. You'll be hearing from my solicitor next week about this farce

Anyways,
Jimmy Dell - Have the 2 up-pipe gaskets. Missing the 2 gaskets for the heads.

P.S. You'll be hearing from my solicitor next week about this farce

Anyways,
Jimmy Dell - Have the 2 up-pipe gaskets. Missing the 2 gaskets for the heads.
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Chrome, YHM.
Thanks for your call. I have only two up-pipe gaskets.
Don't fret on my account - sort it when you can.
Thanks for all your efforts,
Richard.
Thanks for your call. I have only two up-pipe gaskets.
Don't fret on my account - sort it when you can.
Thanks for all your efforts,
Richard.
As you know I have the manifold only and no gaskets. So missing 2 for the manifold.
Has anyone got the manifold gaskets?
Can you take a pic of them and measure the bore size?
I suspect the std subaru gaskets will fit as the exhaust port on the head hasn't changed in size
But I can't check the gaskets till Monday.
As I said mate it's not your fault!!
If they had been sent out indervidually to us we would still have the problem.
I didn't expect you to check the order for gaskets!! Just the number of boxes
Has anyone got the manifold gaskets?
Can you take a pic of them and measure the bore size?
I suspect the std subaru gaskets will fit as the exhaust port on the head hasn't changed in size

But I can't check the gaskets till Monday.
As I said mate it's not your fault!!
If they had been sent out indervidually to us we would still have the problem.
I didn't expect you to check the order for gaskets!! Just the number of boxes
Ok. Just sent a request for a set of header gaskets for everyone who bought a manifold.
Those who me an address, hopefully Max will send it direct to your door.
To the guys who are collecting/have collected- your gaskets are coming direct to me. I can then send them on/you can collect as and when.
phew.
p1sses me off when companie's don't do their job! they even had plenty of time too, so rushing is no excuse... bah
Those who me an address, hopefully Max will send it direct to your door.
To the guys who are collecting/have collected- your gaskets are coming direct to me. I can then send them on/you can collect as and when.
phew.
p1sses me off when companie's don't do their job! they even had plenty of time too, so rushing is no excuse... bah
Last edited by chrome; Sep 11, 2004 at 01:47 PM.
I have all gaskets except for the up-pipe to turbo - NOT happy as I WANT TO FIT THIS STUFF NOW - Bugger!
Also, the downpipe is about 1" longer than the stock one (I tried doing this yesterday) - I can't move my backbox back sufficiently niether.
I am rapidly getting pissed off ..... gaskets missing, bungs wrong size & now the down-pipe don't fit!!!!!!
Also, the downpipe is about 1" longer than the stock one (I tried doing this yesterday) - I can't move my backbox back sufficiently niether.
I am rapidly getting pissed off ..... gaskets missing, bungs wrong size & now the down-pipe don't fit!!!!!!
To Chrome:
Just got back from hols and racing at Shelsley Walsh this weekend. Will collect from your work place friday afternoon if you have all the parts and gaskets at that time. If not, absolutly NO problem, I'll arrange another date suited to us both.
Very irritating when things go wrong like this and the supplier is so far away, but Sh*t happens, and all will be sorted soon!
Regards, (will pm you early next week to see if you have everything and the time to see me next week. I work in Walsall so very close to your works).
911
Just got back from hols and racing at Shelsley Walsh this weekend. Will collect from your work place friday afternoon if you have all the parts and gaskets at that time. If not, absolutly NO problem, I'll arrange another date suited to us both.
Very irritating when things go wrong like this and the supplier is so far away, but Sh*t happens, and all will be sorted soon!
Regards, (will pm you early next week to see if you have everything and the time to see me next week. I work in Walsall so very close to your works).
911
Originally Posted by GimmeMore
I have all gaskets except for the up-pipe to turbo - NOT happy as I WANT TO FIT THIS STUFF NOW - Bugger! 

*you sure its the upipe to turbo?
everyone else seems to be missing the manifold to heads gaskets..
ie: the gaskets came INSIDE the up-pipe box..
Also, the downpipe is about 1" longer than the stock one (I tried doing this yesterday) - I can't move my backbox back sufficiently niether.
*?? really? ****. max should be there NOW. phone him! (cheaper after 11pm for us)
I am rapidly getting pissed off ..... gaskets missing, bungs wrong size & now the down-pipe don't fit!!!!!!
you're not the only one...
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Guys, give Chrome some breathing space to find out what has happened and get back with the answer.
I think he knows you are upset, but he is probably more so, cos im sure he wrong feels that it is a reflection on him.
It obviously isnt, because he ordered what you asked for, the supplier has just not followed suit.
And no I don't know him, but I can read documents without any predudice and have been let down by people and know what it is like trying to organise a ****-up in a brewery.
You have trusted his honesty on the group buy, trust him now to give you an honest answer to what has happened and what can be done to fix it.
I think he knows you are upset, but he is probably more so, cos im sure he wrong feels that it is a reflection on him.
It obviously isnt, because he ordered what you asked for, the supplier has just not followed suit.
And no I don't know him, but I can read documents without any predudice and have been let down by people and know what it is like trying to organise a ****-up in a brewery.
You have trusted his honesty on the group buy, trust him now to give you an honest answer to what has happened and what can be done to fix it.
to be honest, i bought a set of headers from gruppe-s about 2 years ago for my old scoob and it only came with up-pipe gaskets, didn`t know the other 2 were meant to be included too. The gaskets that are on the std headers will be more than up to the job on most, if not all of everyone`s headers here





