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Old 19 July 2004, 07:39 PM
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to be fair- get in touch with AndyF if you know him and ask him what he thinks of the gruppeS headers I'm no tech'ie ..
or check with other tech' members..

I understand its best to have a remap to get the best from headers, and a PowerFC would certainly do that
the limits on your car with headers would be turbo and fuelling imo
seriously, ask Andy and go from there..
if you want in.. let me know
I go to Max when we have 10 people..
Old 19 July 2004, 07:55 PM
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oki doke, thanks mate.

ps. I was just checking the customs website & 'Tyres' are 4.5% Duty + the vat, so would 'assume' the headers (exhaust) to be the same.

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Old 19 July 2004, 08:01 PM
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so do u want some then Xbox?
Old 19 July 2004, 08:23 PM
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I just emailed Andy let you know mate.

blummineck... the mrs is gonna kill me, shes already been moaning! I've spent last 6 weeks in the garage lol
Old 19 July 2004, 08:27 PM
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My headers didn't come with any gaskets but I think they should of

I paid £38 duty on mine when they were delivered by Parcelforce, just to give you a rough indication.

Xbox, if you have got the standard turbo it should be a TD05 and it will love the Gruppe-s headers. With your other mods + an uprated fuel pump and regulator, second hand STI yellow 440 injectors and some form of boost control, either a Dawes Device, Power FC boost controller or AVC-R you should be able to run 1.3 to 1.4 bar boost reasonably safely after Andy has mapped your FC, and I would expect approx 330 - 340 bhp out of this spec depending on the original state of tune, ie engine in good condition and turbo ok.

With your type ra low ratio gearing anything more than this bhp is wasted in my opinion / experience.

Colin.
Old 19 July 2004, 08:47 PM
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Colin, many thanks for that. It is the standard turbo with engine, all in good condition & yup the gearbox is something else! I'm up & down gears as often as prossies knickers!
Old 19 July 2004, 09:29 PM
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stevebt has pm..
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Old 19 July 2004, 10:47 PM
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just to put peoples mind at ease over duty ive got these before and once they arrive at your door you have to pay a whooping £37 in duty OMG its gonna kill this group buy PMSL these are a bargain where ever you look
Old 19 July 2004, 11:41 PM
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I try steve.. i try
Old 20 July 2004, 12:00 AM
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Despite them being a great bit of kit at a great price & looking fab, it's a step too far for my car spec at the moment. The Mrs will be happy at least

Thanks anyway Chrome.
Old 20 July 2004, 12:11 AM
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Hi guys, sounds like a deal is working in the background....I would Definitely be up for it if someone a bit more awake could collate all the costs and slap a figure on a thread!
I am currently running an Impreza STI vs2 Type-RA. I have got the Apex'i Power FC + boost controller, Fujisubo Super Ti backbox and de-CAT, HKS-Induction kit and Walbro 255lt pump and FSE fuel regulator. this exhuast mod would be sweet. Headers, up-pipe and downpipe would be good......after estamated price has been confirmed.

Just a wee note, does anyone know what it would cost to import from Japan. My mate is over there the now and priced a front mount intercooler by HKS for less than £500. delivery worked out at £55 to the UK.
Old 20 July 2004, 08:38 AM
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hi chris
no one's asleep, I cant get prices until we have 10 people.
as said umpteen times above

I'll say it again- when we have 10 people who know exactly what they want, Max can give us a solid figure..

1. Chrome --------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
2. 911 - 'permission' pending -------------- have you decided mate?
3. ScoobyDoo69 --------------------------which parts do you want mate?
4. Jimmy Dell -----------------------------manifold+*up-pipe* ?
5. GimmeMore ----------------------------manifold/up-pipe/downpipe
6. *mystery contender* ------------------manifold only
7. RimP1----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
8. telboy----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe

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Old 20 July 2004, 09:56 AM
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Hi,

Assuming it will fit my classic MY95 impreza turbo...

I'll have the manifold and up pipe please

[what do we do about payment?]
Old 20 July 2004, 12:01 PM
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stevebt YHPM

Cheers

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Old 20 July 2004, 12:10 PM
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turbo_monkey_racer- should do..
payment will be via Credit card only (due to it being international order) I will post up exact details once we have 10 defiantely interested people

1. Chrome --------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
2. 911 - 'permission' pending -------------- have you decided mate?
3. ScoobyDoo69 --------------------------which parts do you want mate?
4. Jimmy Dell -----------------------------manifold+*up-pipe* ?
5. GimmeMore ----------------------------manifold/up-pipe/downpipe
6. *mystery contender* ------------------manifold only
7. RimP1----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
8. telboy----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
9. turbo_monkey_racer---------------------manifold+up-pipe ?
Old 20 July 2004, 12:51 PM
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Hi chrome,

I will take the manifold, up-pipe and down-pipe to suit a 1995 WRX STI Version2 type-RA.
Send me an E-mail to confirm once you have 10 people in for it.
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Originally Posted by Edinburgh-Chris
Hi chrome,

I will take the manifold, up-pipe and down-pipe to suit a 1995 WRX STI Version2 type-RA.
Send me an E-mail to confirm once you have 10 people in for it.
1. Chrome --------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
2. 911 - 'permission' pending ---------------manifold and upipe
3. ScoobyDoo69 --------------------------which parts do you want mate?
4. Jimmy Dell -----------------------------manifold+*up-pipe* ?
5. GimmeMore ----------------------------manifold/up-pipe/downpipe
6. *mystery contender* ------------------manifold only
7. RimP1----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
8. telboy----------------------------------manifold+up-pipe
9. turbo_monkey_racer---------------------manifold+up-pipe ?
10.
Edinburgh-Chris-----------------------manifold+up-pipe/down-pipe
(to suit a 1995 WRX STI Version2 type-RA)

MAIL IS BEING SENT TO MAX TONIGHT!!!!!

Last edited by chrome; 20 July 2004 at 06:11 PM. Reason: W0oT! we have 10 people!!!!......
Old 20 July 2004, 06:20 PM
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Excellent.
Old 20 July 2004, 06:23 PM
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i already have a magnex up pipe, so do i need the new one? if not just the manifold then plz mate

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Old 20 July 2004, 07:08 PM
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ScoobyDoo69- not sure mate?
um, I wouldnt have thought so.. *but* I would check with one of the more techy' types in drivetrain ASAP on here!!!


PM me once you have decided for sure, then will pass onto max ASAP!!

*edited to add:

I would have thought that the magnex upipe wont hinder flow too much.. might be worth asking in drivetrain anyway and hopefully get one or more of the 'usual suspects' to answer properly and clarify fully - unlike me!

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Old 20 July 2004, 08:38 PM
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Should be ok
Old 20 July 2004, 08:52 PM
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re bosses ... I'll be putting my lambda sensor in the downpipe, is there one in the up-pipe & if so what's it for?

I have an Sti 5 to fit this lot to.
Old 20 July 2004, 11:05 PM
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up-pipe one is potentially for EGT is it not?

btw- cheers steven

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Old 21 July 2004, 12:34 PM
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ok- heres the crack..
got an email from Max:

Sorry we don't supply the bolt to plug the sensor bungs... they are a 14x1.5
and 18x1.5 pattern so you shouldn't have a hard time finding them at your local hardware store
For a groupbuy to international location we would need to process it as a
single order.. meaning one payment and one delivery location.

Groupbuy pricing is $300/manifold + shipping (depends on final quantity)...
its ~$4/kg (each manifold is ~10kg)


I have asked about pricing for the up-pipe, but I have just realised-

GimmeMore/Edinburgh Chris-
I dont think they do a Downpipe!

I'm waiting for Max to get back to me on that..., but don't be surprised if they don't do one.. I should have noticed before when people asked for one... after all the GB was meant to be manifold and up-pipe after all. We shall see what Max has to say.


doh! ..

If we want to go ahead at that kind of price, I would need cheques from everyone in advance (to cover my CC payment)
Cheques would need to allow for:

parts-
manifold = $300
up-pipe = $info pending
shipping @ $4/kg (manifolds are 10kg)
Duty of approx 5% ?
Delivery in the UK - Parcelforce
(choose a rate - http://www.pfwwsg.royalmail.com)

So, for manifold and shipping ONLY-
we are looking at £191 approx + parcelforce cost (approx £20 for next day by noon)

THIS IS MINUS VAT !!! *
(and assuming duty @ 5%).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
* Potentially, we might not have to pay VAT of 17.5 % - seeing as the goods originate in the US.. not sure if we get charged local US sales tax.. if we do, I think we can circumvent paying UK VAT as we already paid the US tax.. will have to check with the revenue/HMCE for sure.. any tax advisors out there plz feel free to correct me


Will post prices for headers+upipe when I get it

Last edited by chrome; 21 July 2004 at 12:51 PM. Reason: coz I pasted in the wrong price!!!!! 191 is the correct one!
Old 21 July 2004, 01:05 PM
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Hi chrome, i just had a look on the web site. if you go to the first link you posted and enter the web site you will see at the top that there is a section for product. scroll down and go to subaru. choose exhaust and there are some for sale there......
Have they confirmed that my car is compatible with these components

Chris
Old 21 July 2004, 01:41 PM
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Sensor bungs? Pardon my ignorance, but will i need those then?

Also, do you think we're likely to see the goods before September? I'm happy to collect mine within reason, or are you in the middle of nowhere, chrome?!
Old 21 July 2004, 01:46 PM
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ah ok mate.. I was just looking on the 'eng' page.. http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm

I have asked Max for prices on DP and UP

They havent confirmed *exact* model compatability, altho I sent your details...
I think if it fits a scoob, it fits

their manifold and upipe fits either a classic or new shape.. no justy tho
will post up other prices as soon as I get them.
Old 21 July 2004, 01:47 PM
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I was quoted including downpipe .... so I expect that they have them.

Also, where is the stuff being sent from at your end (post code, pm if you like) so I can get the delivery charge sorted & can you get an idea of the weight of each of manifold/uppipe/downpipe from Max pls.
Old 21 July 2004, 01:49 PM
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tel- All manifolds above are IN STOCK!.
yup, you will need the bungs tel (or have some interesting leaks )

TSL do blanking plugs (at a price) and Im sure any decent engineering place can lathe you some spec is above mate.

not sure about DP or UP availability- max hasnt said yet.

delivery time is about a WEEK!
I can 'next day' it to you at your cost as said above
hows that?
Old 21 July 2004, 01:51 PM
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my postcode is NG9.
weights are coming in next email from Max hopefully.

up to 15Kg should be £20 next day by noon with PF (use the link above).

sorry for complications.. if it was just manifolds it would have been easier


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