Jye

agree about moses, where is the bugger

MOSEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!

p@ul

A little story for you guys
I grew up with cats so it was inevitable i would have my own one day,but when i met my wife to be and moved in together it was discussed and i found my wife was terrified of them.In fact most of her family hate them,so it was left at that.I never pushed to have cats because i respected her hate/phobia and for 8 years we lived petless but last year my dad mentioned they had found a kitten roaming round outside my granma's house and they had taken it to the cat sanctuary.A few days later we heard bad things about this said place and my dad was worried sick but he couldnt keep it himself because my bro's 19 year old cat would'nt tolerate it so..... i spoke to my wife and she agreed i could bring it home to see how she went and that was a year ago
She is an adorable cat that for some reason was left unwanted by there owner and because of her great temperment i have allowed her to have a litter before being spayed.2 we are keeping 1 is going to a family member and the other hopefully to a friend that recently lost her cat of 17 years which happened to be my bro's cats daughter
I understand people that do not like cats as my wife spent 27 years being one of them,her family come round now and i have to put her upstairs or outside but hey each to there own i say
I have great respect for the way my wife has overcome her fear/hate of cats and i also have respect for the ones that dont

SomeDude

Nice one Nick, Marmite looks great

I did remove my pics though, as this BBS is not exactly about sharing information anymore.

(It's about sick fvcks really.)

p@ul

Put em back up m8 they looked great and my wife didnt get to see em

p@ul

Good thing about this thread,my 300 mark is flying round and i get a giggle doing it

p@ul

Come on guys im getting lonely

OllyK

ajm - have to say I agree with you.

I don't have a problem with cats as such, just irresponsible owners. The Cat lovers are fine as their cats are too dear to them to risk letting them out where they can be run over by cars or attacked by foxes and so on. It is your day to day cat owner who chucks the cat out at bed time evry night and lets it wander around killing the indiginous rodents and crapping in people's gardens.

To the person who commented about cats only crapping on mossy gardens, well no, they tend to prefer recently yurned over soil as it is easier for them to dig in. As the misses takes great pride in her garden she hoes it most weekends only to find the plants dug up and cat crap in its place the next day.

One good thing about cats however, unlike a dog, when you run them over with the car, you don't have to report it

ajm

I'm off to bed I'm afraid.

By the way, here are links to the pics SomeDude put up (so long as he doesn;t remove them from his server)... us "sick fvcks" always keep a good internet log!

http://www.wide-o.net/cats/critters.jpg
http://www.wide-o.net/edina_nest/kittens_4weeks.jpg
http://www.wide-o.net/edina_nest/spook.jpg

night all!

SomeDude

Is there an Egyptian Subaru BBS somewhere ?

SomeDude

Good links

p@ul

Olly how do you know it aint the foxes doing the crapping m8

MooseRacer

Isn't cats killing mice, rats and the like a good thing?

ajm

Not necessarily. There are some endangered species of rodents that cats kill such as harvest mice. It is estimated by the mammal society that domestic cats kill 1.5 million harvest mice a year, which out of 11 million born each year is very significant!

OllyK

Well unless the foxes in our area have shrunk and change colour, the things I keep shouting at and chasing off are definately cats.

Jye

I do know this, but this was in relation to the lawnmower comments.

So, the owners are irresponsible by letting the cat get run over by cars. And then they are also irresponsible by letting them out at night to kill rodents!!!!! The safest time to let cats out is at night (less or no cars about) btw, also less birds for them to kill as they are all roosting. And could you please tell me what is wrong with cats killing rodents such as rats. Our cats killed at least 4 large rats last week, seem to prefer them to mice, you would be amazed at how many rats are all around you, even in relatively clean areas. I stay in the country and our cats work for a living I can tell you.

MooseRacer

1 in 10 estimated is not that high, I'm sure many more are killed in other ways. Survival rate in wild animals is very small.

OllyK

Yes but using a cat to control pests in the wild is a bit like using a shot gun when you are a sniper. They don't just kill the things that people don't like or that are in abundance, they also kill birds (some of which may be protected or endangered) as well as Voles (again endangered) and Bats (protected) etc etc.

If they just killed rats, crapped in their owners gardens and didn't carry diseases that can affect humans I don't think the non cat owners would get quite so upset.

OllyK

Exactly, so why make the situation worse by letting domestic moggies add to the problem??

Jye

Hence why letting them out at night is better.

Jye

These arguments have all been done to death btw.

ajm

That's nearly 14%! That's a very high predation rate, especially considering cats are not even meant to be a natural predator for them!

OllyK

When it is easier for them to catch birds as they are roosting and it is harder for them to fly away. Yup, really good plan that one

ajm

I know, but it astounds me that, despite all the evidence, people still cannot acknowledge that their pets are detrimental to the people and the environment around them.

There is pleanty worse in the world to worry about, of course, but it doesn't stop me being right in this case!

OllyK

Beat me to it ajm!!

Just wonder how the cat people would feel if I started letting the dog loose so it could crap in their gardens and kill thier cats??

Jye

I'd say they catch more birds during the day, I've never had any birds left on my doorstep, plenty of mice and rats but no birds.

Jye

Plenty of dogs loose m8, just wander round any scheme in the UK. Why do you think they have dog wardens. Dogs rarely kill cats, in fact cats usually come off better.

OllyK

Just because your cat hasn't brough one back, doesn't mean that it and others don't.

Jye

Yeah like the millions of humans killed by humans. Why dont you both campaign for human rights instead of whinging about cats.

OllyK

Quite happy to do that as well.

It suggests to me from the way you have written that, that you "lump" people who would prefer not to see humans being killed in with cat haters, so does that mean you applaud all the killing in the world?? I would hope not, which just goes to show the weakness of your argument, you can have concerns about more than one thing at once you know

Jye

Of course I understand that, but as above, humans are far worse than cats at both killing other humans and destroying the environment. Cats are way down the scale when it comes to making animals extinct and destroying animals natural habitats.

You two need to get a life btw.