p@ul

Hi guys/gals
Ive just spent the last hour an a half watching my cat milly give birth to 4 little ones what an experience!Ive come downstairs now to get some sleep and left the missus to it cos there miaowing is keeping me awake lol
God help me if i get up in the morning and there's more

micared

Congratulations to the proud " parents "!

SiDHEaD

The cutest part is when the mom starts carrying them round in her mouth!

tiggers

ajm, Don't even think about it

tiggers.

Nick

Kittens are the cutest little things! Got any pics?

Leslie

Looking forward to a pic sometime.

Les

p@ul

Will sort some pics out guys,just letting mum have time alone with them for a few days first

SomeDude

why bother

ajm

As if I would!

p@ul

What am i missing ajm,or dont i want to know

tiggers

Good boy

ajm

p@ul,

I have an opinion that domestic cats shouldn't be released to roam. An opinion that I have backed up on countless occasions with scientific facts and first-hand information. Usually some cat owners let their emotions get the better of them and become hysterical, causing general unpleasantness and ultimately the thread to be locked.

I now try and keep such discussions to threads started with that specific issue in mind to avoid every single cat thread being locked, however there is always at least one "cat activist" trying to stir things up (*cough* tiggers)!

p@ul

This sounds interesting,would you like to elaborate further
Dont worry i dont bite

MooseRacer

Must have missed that particular part of your emotional rantings

ajm

Well since its your thread and you are inviting me (never invite a vampire into your house by the way ) I shall oblige....

Basically the issue I have is that of responsibility for an animal that is, for all intents and purposes, realeased into the wild. The problem being that when it comes to legal responsibility for damage that animal does and the definition of whether it is a domestic pet or a non-indigenous species roaming wild the law is blurred.

The following thread problably cover the crux of it for me:-

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....6&postcount=68

We have also covered the biological aspects of it including damage to native songbird and rodent population and the danger of parasite (toxoplasma gondii) propagation to human beings and associated health and behaviour problems as a result. I can't find all the threads unfortunately but the info is in my brain's cache for fast recall should you need it!

PG

well done for not starting ajm

ajm

You know its funny, but I also suspected that you had missed the salient parts of the argument!

p@ul

Fair comment m8
I am a firm believer in freedom of speech and own opinions,according to many im very good at the freedom of speech bit myself,probably get away with it being quite a big lad lol.But im slightly confused about the damage to property?Eating birds and mice/rats understandable

Nick

Hi Paul

Here's a pic of my cat Marmite when she was a few weeks old.

ajm

Damage to property, for me, consists of fish missing from my pond, paw/claw marks on the car and faeces on the garden.

The car is now in a garage, I have netting over the pond (to be fair blame can be attributable to herons too, but at least they are an indigenous species!) but I havn't found a way around the pooh yet! (ever run over cat **** with a hover mower? - not nice!)

MooseRacer

So what do you suggest ajm - are you saying you cannot claim for damage by a cat?

ajm

Whether or not I can make a successful claim remains to be seen. For example to do so I would have to physically catch the offending animal in order to identify the owner. Also, if it were a dog causing a nuisance it would be caught by the authorities and impounded if the owner could not be identified.

I would much rather not have to claim for damage in the first place.

My opinion, as you know, is that cats should not be left to roam free as is the situation for dogs. To those who say that cats *must* roam free I would suggest that, if that were the case, then they are not a suitable animal to keep as a domestic pet.

p@ul

I see where your coming from m8,ive had similar arguments with a neighbour down the road who's dog had a fetish for my driveway and would crap all over it everytime he walked past luckily im in a position with my cat where in the 30 houses around mine there must be 20 cats
p.s dont move onto my road m8 you would have a heart attack within a week lol

ajm

LOL! Where do you live out of interest?

I just wonder what would happen if the tables were turned, hypothetically .... if I moved my mixed shoal of venezuelan and amazonian piranha into my pond and someones cat got eaten do you think they would accept the explanation "oh, thats what they do"?

Anyway, thanks for your receptive and understanding attitude, you could teach a few on here a thing or two!

Believe it or not I have actually received several threats from these discussions, including a death threat! There's nowt so strange as people!

tiggers

Oh Gawd - look what I started - sorry guys - I was genuinely not trying to stir things up, just firing a gentle warning shot across ajm's bow.

tiggers.

tiggers

Are you serious about the death threat? - Jeez, I know there have been strong discussions on this issue, but that is taking things a little far.

Genuinely sorry mate - I really wouldn't have posted my lighthearted comment in this thread if I knew things had gone that far.

tiggers.

Jye

Looks in, and what a surprise, its ajm and his ever so long running and oh so weary cat hating 'fixation'

ajm, you could always just ignore such threads m8, it's easily done btw, just dont click on them............

GL with your kittens m8 anyhow

Jye

Cat 'lovers' btw ajm, I think that was the give away....................

ajm

Don't worry, it wasn't anything to do with this particular thread, it was following a more heated debate some time back. I never took it seriously anyway because the individual in question only had a rudimentary command of the English language, limited intelligence and, judging by his/her choice of anonymous email, obviously didn't have the courage to identify themselves on here, let alone to go through with it!

ajm

I was specifically invited to put forward my views by the starter of the thread. Re-read.