BLOWN ENGINES ON P1'S
09 June 2004, 05:24 PM
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Blown Engines on P1's
Holy cow!!
Was thinking of buying a P1 next year after reading all the above it might just put me of. I Can't believe that standard engines may not last 40000 miles.
Are the sti 7 cars any stronger? if so might buy one of those instead.
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Was thinking of buying a P1 next year after reading all the above it might just put me of. I Can't believe that standard engines may not last 40000 miles.
Are the sti 7 cars any stronger? if so might buy one of those instead.
Cheers
Jaz51
09 June 2004, 06:38 PM
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Standard engines will last for 40,000 easy, as long as they are cared for properly. Seeming that most Subaru garages don't know how to do this, you'd be pretty lucky to find one which has been cared for in any way approaching good - or at least, lucky to find one that the owner wants to sell...
09 June 2004, 09:39 PM
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Hmmm, if I summed this up correctly for longer high speed excursions we should have water to air IC or FMIC (though EU spec cars a a bit different than P1 or STI's).
Legacy GT had W-A IC, why was this replaced if it is that good (except weight)? Would Impreza GT work fine with legacy IC? How should we wire the water pump for the IC?
Interesting thread though...
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Legacy GT had W-A IC, why was this replaced if it is that good (except weight)? Would Impreza GT work fine with legacy IC? How should we wire the water pump for the IC?
Interesting thread though...
Kristijan
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10 June 2004, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nom
Standard engines will last for 40,000 easy, as long as they are cared for properly. Seeming that most Subaru garages don't know how to do this, you'd be pretty lucky to find one which has been cared for in any way approaching good - or at least, lucky to find one that the owner wants to sell...
10 June 2004, 10:05 PM
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No.
I'm saying that if you totally change the VE of the engine & then dramatically underfuel it for long periods of time whilest running it on the wrong fuel and at higher than the intended load/boost, it is quite acceptable that it lets go. If it didn't, it would be overdesigned.
But very few people run the car in any way other than as described above, therefore it's hard to find one in a decent state (unless the owner knows what they're doing, in which case they are unlikely to sell it...)
I know of modded cars that are at 120,000+ & are still going strong, but their owners knew enough to not do anything stupid. A rare breed...
I'm saying that if you totally change the VE of the engine & then dramatically underfuel it for long periods of time whilest running it on the wrong fuel and at higher than the intended load/boost, it is quite acceptable that it lets go. If it didn't, it would be overdesigned.
But very few people run the car in any way other than as described above, therefore it's hard to find one in a decent state (unless the owner knows what they're doing, in which case they are unlikely to sell it...)
I know of modded cars that are at 120,000+ & are still going strong, but their owners knew enough to not do anything stupid. A rare breed...
11 June 2004, 08:42 AM
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I know of modded cars that are at 120,000+ & are still going strong, but their owners knew enough to not do anything stupid. A rare breed...
) still on original UK engine..TOUCH WOOD!
15 June 2004, 05:40 PM
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just to put some faith back into P1'dom I've just seen mine tick round to 82,000miles - original engine, oringinal clutch.
No mods only air filter and a scorpion exhaust from Cat back and always run on Esso SUL or BP SUL.
Still goes like a train but is always warmed up / cooled down and the first 1,000 miles were religiously done and only let it upto 5,000rpm for the next thousand miles. Then she 'ad it.
Still can nudge 145mph in Germany and not a hint of a problem under the bonnet although this speed isn't sustained but 100 - 110mph is regularily.
Oh and before you question my driving, i don't waste time ever while driving and my P1 does do what it was built for.
Does that balance up the thread any ??
No mods only air filter and a scorpion exhaust from Cat back and always run on Esso SUL or BP SUL.
Still goes like a train but is always warmed up / cooled down and the first 1,000 miles were religiously done and only let it upto 5,000rpm for the next thousand miles. Then she 'ad it.
Still can nudge 145mph in Germany and not a hint of a problem under the bonnet although this speed isn't sustained but 100 - 110mph is regularily.
Oh and before you question my driving, i don't waste time ever while driving and my P1 does do what it was built for.
Does that balance up the thread any ??
16 June 2004, 03:05 PM
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Good comment from P1DOG.
My car's not a P1, but a UK00 running over 300bhp. It is EcuTek remapped to cover the usual bolt-on mods, has a Knocklink, runs on Optimax, and after its 82,500 mile service it flies as well as ever
I also treat it with care and common sense, as described in the above posts, but it also gets a regular spanking and the odd track day.
Discounting the odd rogue motor, there are many more unreliable Scooby owners than cars
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My car's not a P1, but a UK00 running over 300bhp. It is EcuTek remapped to cover the usual bolt-on mods, has a Knocklink, runs on Optimax, and after its 82,500 mile service it flies as well as ever
I also treat it with care and common sense, as described in the above posts, but it also gets a regular spanking and the odd track day.
Discounting the odd rogue motor, there are many more unreliable Scooby owners than cars
Richard.
22 June 2004, 04:37 PM
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Seems crazy that a car with such a highly strung engine wasn't optimised for uk fuel yet was sold as an official uk version.
22 June 2004, 05:32 PM
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They are optimised for standard European fuel (98 RON), but then people don't even put in 97 - they'll put in 91 from supermarkets & then whine when the engine blows. Duh 
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Obviously the MAFs shouldn't be as fragile as they are, & they do tend to be the root of the problem...
.Obviously the MAFs shouldn't be as fragile as they are, & they do tend to be the root of the problem...
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