Katana

Why do they want to lose weight? They should ship them off to Japan and let them be the UK contingent for the World Sumo wrestling championship. They're considered as hearthrobs in Japan. Take the opportunity and be the envy of millions of Otakus looking for Japanese girls..

moses

well said kat and they become very rich

but only downfall is i heard the sumos push their ***** up their tummy yuck must be sore

moses

also they say when we get fat our willie shrinks coz the muscle thing that pushes the blood in it gets stretched and pulls the willie in

is that true
thats it no chocolates for me anymore

Katana

I wouldnt know about the shrinkinh ***** thing. Am always trim.

Scooby96

Christ I could put on hundreds of pounds and still see my ****

Katana

Mirrors dont count.

Scooby96

I have to see my feet as I´ll trip over my ****!

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Obesity is very much a mental problem IMO

Many very fat people I have known have mostly been very self centred people...with a very me me me attitude, and the world revolves around them. They also have a "can't do" way of thinking and give little effort in perservering in things that would benefit them (i.e quitters).

Perhaps this explains why fat people are insistant that someone else should sort their problem (i.e NHS). And when they say diets don't work is because they have not persevered or had the will power to control themselves and give in or quit. Also I noticed that many always go on about diets this and diets that with very little mentioning of any intensive exercise.

ajm

But what if the treatment is unecessary? Would you sign off 4 grand of NHS money to staple someone's stomach when they could achieve the same effect by eating less?

imlach

As I said, every case is different. If someone has clinical depression, added in with life-threatning obesity, and a history of failure in weight-loss, then the NHS may consider the cost of this technique outweighs the ongoing cost of obesity-related illness.

I don't think anyone gets these treatments "on demand" and have probably been through all alternatives with their GP/hospital first.

Remember, these techniques are used on the VERY obese (ie, 30-40 stone people) who are probably immobile etc.

It's sadly not quite as easy as "eat less" due to ongoing psychological issues in many cases.

Believe me, the NHS don't spend £4k if they don't have to!

moses

lol @ scooby u are doing well u sure u dont have an extension their


lol @ kat u truly a nutter bros

ajm

No they don't, which is why the programme was making the case that the treatment should be much more available. My argument is that they shouldn't.... and I think you are agreeing

imlach

I could be. I guess the discussion on here got clouded by those that seem to have ZERO compassion for cases where it it is simply not as simple as a diet-sheet.

Yes, in theory it is simply a matter of exercise & less food, but if only life WAS so simple If it was, no-one WOULD be seriously clinically obese.

RichiW

Thing is with these fat people, they'll say they've tried everything to lose weight, ask them when they last visited a gym, i'll put money on 99.9% of them giving you a blank or dirty look back

imlach

A lot of overweight people often say they are scared of visiting gyms because of the comments they get. Given some of the comments on here, they do seem to have a point.

Next time you see an overweight person in a gym or jogging in the street, praise them for trying to do something about it rather than making some snide "fat ba$t4rd" comment.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

I can't see how anyone in their right mind would make degrogatory comments about an obese person doing excercise.

I wouldn't go as far as complimenting them (unless I was a personal tariner etc), but I would most certainly not make any negative remarks over them doing something about their problem.

Soulgirl

The NHS by the very nature of its name is a National Health Service, therefore it provides support for the health of the nation. Irrespective of 'how' they got fat, they are quite within their rites to request treatment. Who are we to say they are not deserving. You could say the same about drug addicts, smokers and alcahol dependant people. You could say the same about those that practice extreme sports. You could say the same about cosmetic treatments. In fact, you could say the same about Tourists who come here soleley for the NHS freebies. Lets not get onto the lazy *******s who don't even work, get benefits and still get free health care. You see, it is a vicious circle and overweight claimants are not the main users of our hard earned money.

However, the father of the obese child, crying into the camera stating his son should be treated by the nhs is another matter. Psychologically that was probably the dads way of dealing with his own mistakes in respect of bringing up his son badly.

And to show I still have a little humour - perhpas he should buy www.getmysonthin.com

Jerome

Good to see I'm not the only fattist here...

Brendan Hughes

LOL, which, the last ones?

ajm

Dead thread re-animation!

Has the programme been on again or something?

Soulgirl

No it hasn't ajm. I was just perusing the board and thought I would stir it up somewhat

Aaquil

Stop eating all the pies and do some bl**dy exercise...burdens on an already pushed NHS.