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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Why do they want to lose weight? They should ship them off to Japan and let them be the UK contingent for the World Sumo wrestling championship. They're considered as hearthrobs in Japan. Take the opportunity and be the envy of millions of Otakus looking for Japanese girls..
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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well said kat and they become very rich

but only downfall is i heard the sumos push their ***** up their tummy yuck must be sore
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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also they say when we get fat our willie shrinks coz the muscle thing that pushes the blood in it gets stretched and pulls the willie in

is that true
thats it no chocolates for me anymore
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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I wouldnt know about the shrinkinh ***** thing. Am always trim.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Christ I could put on hundreds of pounds and still see my ****
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby96
Christ I could put on hundreds of pounds and still see my ****
Mirrors dont count.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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I have to see my feet as I´ll trip over my ****!
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Obesity is very much a mental problem IMO

Many very fat people I have known have mostly been very self centred people...with a very me me me attitude, and the world revolves around them. They also have a "can't do" way of thinking and give little effort in perservering in things that would benefit them (i.e quitters).

Perhaps this explains why fat people are insistant that someone else should sort their problem (i.e NHS). And when they say diets don't work is because they have not persevered or had the will power to control themselves and give in or quit. Also I noticed that many always go on about diets this and diets that with very little mentioning of any intensive exercise.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
The NHS has a duty of care to everyone, no matter what the medical problem (and life-threatning obesity is a medical issue).
But what if the treatment is unecessary? Would you sign off 4 grand of NHS money to staple someone's stomach when they could achieve the same effect by eating less?
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
But what if the treatment is unecessary? Would you sign off 4 grand of NHS money to staple someone's stomach when they could achieve the same effect by eating less?
As I said, every case is different. If someone has clinical depression, added in with life-threatning obesity, and a history of failure in weight-loss, then the NHS may consider the cost of this technique outweighs the ongoing cost of obesity-related illness.

I don't think anyone gets these treatments "on demand" and have probably been through all alternatives with their GP/hospital first.

Remember, these techniques are used on the VERY obese (ie, 30-40 stone people) who are probably immobile etc.

It's sadly not quite as easy as "eat less" due to ongoing psychological issues in many cases.

Believe me, the NHS don't spend £4k if they don't have to!
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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lol @ scooby u are doing well u sure u dont have an extension their


lol @ kat u truly a nutter bros
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
As I said, every case is different. If someone has clinical depression, added in with life-threatning obesity, and a history of failure in weight-loss, then the NHS may consider the cost of this technique outweighs the ongoing cost of obesity-related illness.

I don't think anyone gets these treatments "on demand" and have probably been through all alternatives with their GP/hospital first.

Remember, these techniques are used on the VERY obese (ie, 30-40 stone people) who are probably immobile etc.

It's sadly not quite as easy as "eat less" due to ongoing psychological issues in many cases.

Believe me, the NHS don't spend £4k if they don't have to!
No they don't, which is why the programme was making the case that the treatment should be much more available. My argument is that they shouldn't.... and I think you are agreeing
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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No they don't, which is why the programme was making the case that the treatment should be much more available. My argument is that they shouldn't.... and I think you are agreeing
I could be. I guess the discussion on here got clouded by those that seem to have ZERO compassion for cases where it it is simply not as simple as a diet-sheet.

Yes, in theory it is simply a matter of exercise & less food, but if only life WAS so simple If it was, no-one WOULD be seriously clinically obese.
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Thing is with these fat people, they'll say they've tried everything to lose weight, ask them when they last visited a gym, i'll put money on 99.9% of them giving you a blank or dirty look back
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Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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A lot of overweight people often say they are scared of visiting gyms because of the comments they get. Given some of the comments on here, they do seem to have a point.

Next time you see an overweight person in a gym or jogging in the street, praise them for trying to do something about it rather than making some snide "fat ba$t4rd" comment.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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I can't see how anyone in their right mind would make degrogatory comments about an obese person doing excercise.

I wouldn't go as far as complimenting them (unless I was a personal tariner etc), but I would most certainly not make any negative remarks over them doing something about their problem.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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The NHS by the very nature of its name is a National Health Service, therefore it provides support for the health of the nation. Irrespective of 'how' they got fat, they are quite within their rites to request treatment. Who are we to say they are not deserving. You could say the same about drug addicts, smokers and alcahol dependant people. You could say the same about those that practice extreme sports. You could say the same about cosmetic treatments. In fact, you could say the same about Tourists who come here soleley for the NHS freebies. Lets not get onto the lazy *******s who don't even work, get benefits and still get free health care. You see, it is a vicious circle and overweight claimants are not the main users of our hard earned money.

However, the father of the obese child, crying into the camera stating his son should be treated by the nhs is another matter. Psychologically that was probably the dads way of dealing with his own mistakes in respect of bringing up his son badly.

And to show I still have a little humour - perhpas he should buy www.getmysonthin.com
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Good to see I'm not the only fattist here...
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
Irrespective of 'how' they got fat, they are quite within their rites to request treatment.
LOL, which, the last ones?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Dead thread re-animation!

Has the programme been on again or something?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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No it hasn't ajm. I was just perusing the board and thought I would stir it up somewhat
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Stop eating all the pies and do some bl**dy exercise...burdens on an already pushed NHS.
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