It was hilarious !!
Girlies were nice
Neds were ***** as usual
But exactly what was the point of it

sti-04!!

 

It makes the more to edzell more logical if there is resistance from the Crail residents.

 

I guess a lot of the residents were there before these events existed, and have every right to be pi$$ed off if they want to be.

NIMBY is a perfectly valid viewpoint. I'd certainly be pi$$ed off if a load of neds descended on my BY. Yes, the majority are harmless enough, but there's always the minority that spoil it for all, and that's what causes most of the trouble. Remove the event, and it removes the troublesome minority. Simple.

 

The 'we were there first' is the crux of the majority of planning application objections. Lets assume for a minute that we as planners decide to just go with that: We have no choice now but to refuse most large housing applications so without the new build the supply v demand puts existing prices though the roof! People get mortgaged up to the eyeballs and many people can't buy property at all. The economy goes very pear shaped! Or, we just slap houses and big industrial stuff in the middle of the countryside miles from even small villages! Now we must service these places with buses, provide schools, water, sewerage, police and fire coverage and all this on top of the whole 'urban sprawl' issue. As a result LA's have no choice but to put council tax through the roof to pay for it and we see a massive reduction in services and the joining up of our urban areas.

I hope that is an example of why the basic 'we don't want it' attitude is very often wrong and that you need to look at the wider implications of why you are objecting to something. We are talking about the ONLY 1/4m racing strip in Scotland. It has to go somewhere or Scotland loses yet another facility!!

I'm not saying they are wrong to be angry as that is an emotion but they are wong to just say, 'we don't want it' without building a case as to WHY its not suitable at that location. I don't know much about Crail and the surrounding area but it seems fairly suitable from my visits. Ok location geographically and a considerable distance from Crail itself - most importantly its 2 sundays a month! It really isn't that often to be honest!

 

Now I could be gloriously wrong here as I'm going on 2nd hand info, but my boss stays in Ellie and he has zero complaints about the Crail thrash. He says the bad ones are when the bike clubs meet there

He says the Harley Davidson ones are the worst for plain outright noise.

My point is that I don't think it's limited to purely Crail thrashes.

The last time I was in the area I popped down to see if I could sneak on to the track and found the dude that owns Noble cars testing his own tweaked Noble... along with fuel lorry, press and whole entourage. Not exactly a quiet event with the Twin Garrets doing their worst (awesome sound by the way)

I agree that it's a great facility and will keep some racing off the public roads and I would like to see it encouraged..... but then I don't come from the East Neuk of Fife

Awaiting to be corrected

 

Too ****ing right Robbie!

 

Well my car was on it...

Silver Classic, on P1 wheels launching off the line right at the beginning and also caught a wee clip of me passing the line in front of my mates P1!!

Program was poor, however in all honesty, if it hadnt of featured some scum then it wouldnt have been a true picture of what Crail is.

Didnt see a great deal of racing, and general Crail banter, I feel it was made more to underline the problems that the locals have got with it to be honest. Some of their arguments were absolute crap "...doing wheelies down the high street". Now I'm really into my cars, and have been to Crail LOTS of times, and I have never, ever seen a car wheelie either on the strip or trundling through Crail!! lol

Cheers,
Grant

 

I dunno like!! That white Chevvy with NOS @ 1500bhp got some lift at the front IMHO

 

Wheelies is some areas dialect for wheelspins, and with the amount of polis in and around the village of Crail you would have to be very brave or very stupid to try and get away with it

 

crap progam i know but MY CAR WAS ON THE TELLY 3 times wwwwhhhhhooooohhhhooo

 

Don't agree fully that it is "very often wrong".

If something is planned for my back yard, I can object to it without having to give a reason. I do not have to see the wider implications - if I wasn't into cars, why should I feel I need to see the wider picture of it being the only 1/4 mile strip in Scotland. I don't. Yeah, fine, they can have one somewhere in Scotland, but not in my back yard

It has to go somewhere agreed, but one is perfectly entitled to object to it WITHOUT having to examine wider implications. That's one for the planning dept & owners to fight for.

Anyway, in my personal experience, if a development is approved by the relevant council, personal objections rarely alter those decisions How independent are council planning depts?

Out of interest, if Edinburgh Council were to put a new gypsy camp BANG next to your houses in that field beside you at Maybury, would you object? Would you see the wider implications of the fact that the gypsies have to be placed somewhere? Of course, your property would be devalued by the stigma of a gypsy camp next to you, but would you be ok with that?

 

Strange to see the different impressions people manage to get when they don't know the people involved.

It was Kaye Adams who said they fell out because of the race not me and if my car was not running right or "gonna conk out if it heats up " then the l\ast place it would be going is up the1/4 mile at crail ......Although 13.9 at 103 mph was a good show for a Toyota
No disrespect meant as it says on the ladies car "Shes Mental"

Cheers Grant

 

Section 25 of the Town & Country Planning (Scotland) Act 1997 states that all applications must be determined in accordance with the development plan unless material considerations indicate otherwise.

It's rare that objectors actually raise 'material' planning matters and its very rare that they outweigh the democratically adopted development plans. I would be pissed off at the gypo's as I have a right to that emotion/response but before I could outright say the 'should not' go there I'd have to look at the wider implications of why that site was chosen and if its suitable. I mean this in the nicest way but perhaps you have to work in the sort of field I do to understand. People object and moan about anything and everything as they scramble to ensure that nothing bursts their little bubble in their little world!

 

I mean this in the nicest way, but I don't need to understand a planning dept process to reason why I can object to ANYTHING I like WITHOUT looking at the wider picture It is a democratic right.

Whether that view is listened to or not is for YOUR dept and/or the council to debate & finalise a view on. That is where your professional viewpoint comes into play.

 

I've never said you can't object to anything you like!! You can and it is your democratic right as you say But I assure you, before even your life time is over old man () this country will near grind to a halt with people objecting to anything and everything and our courts being jammed with claims against this, that and everything. Even in the three years I have worked in East Lothian I have noticed a marked increase in the amount of objection to applications. Our entire society is too interested in looking after No 1 and it will be the death of us all.

 

Are general increases in objections down to pressure of space though, not to mention objections based on health fears in the cases of masts etc.

There is also a general increase in people wanting to preserve green space for leisure activities - this has been VASTLY reduced in Edinburgh of late to squeeze every bit of residential space they can....

There is a limit to how much green space you can take away from an urban space surely before you compromise a good balance of amenities/houses. Edinburgh is a good city for study, given it is limited by sea on one side, green belt on other 3 sides, so not much room for expansion.

 

...and I assure you young boy (), in the very few short years when you'll be the same age as I am now, you'll have lost your professional ideals and will be looking out for No.1 as well like everyone else does Believe me, professional ideals expire in the 20's

 

Watched this tonight at a mates.

I've sat here for 5 minutes trying to think a sensible point to add, but the only overwhelming observation I can think of is 'What a waste of 30 mins'.

 

It was the kind of programme that obviously started out with an agenda at the planning stage, but whoever edited it quite clearly didn't either have the footage/same agenda to construct a programme for the original aim.

It was a mish-mash, nay a hotch-potch of mixed messages, differing foci, and no clear conclusion. It had no beginning, middle, or end of any note.

Ah well, who said regional programming was alive & well

 

Agree with the sentiments of "What a waste of 30 minutes" but - rather confusingly - I'm glad I watched it (and once I started watching it I couldn't stop ).

Why does that happen with some programmes - complete pish but compulsive ?

My guess is that you kinda hope that it's gonna get better and as you have "invested" your time you have to keep at it just in case you miss the good bits - A bit like supporting Rangers just now I guess !

 

Unlikely!!! I don't have 'professional ideals' I fecking hate my profession and often just wish people were left to their own devices! Its more just my, 'character' that I try to take a balanced view of things even when it directly affects me.

 

OK, add in the financial interests in your 30s & beyond to protect you & your family's interests
Then you wouldn't want £000's wiped off your property value - hehehehe.

 

I'm working on ensuring that finances aren't a problem BY my 30s

 

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