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Old 30 April 2004, 06:59 PM
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Do you think genuine induction box isn't enough for a 2.5 ?? I certainly have to remap MAF map but I don't like induction kit too much (MAF sensor destruction...)
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Old 30 April 2004, 07:02 PM
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The std box is no where near capable of flowing enough air for a 2.5 litre, as far as maf robustness it depends on what Model year car and how its mounted etc.

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Old 30 April 2004, 07:41 PM
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Great JOB Bob, must be a blast to drive!...Do you think the 3 port boost solenoid plus a remap alone would give worthwhile improvements on a PPP'd 04 Sti uk?....
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Old 30 April 2004, 08:04 PM
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A custom map to a specific car will always be better, by how much would depend on what other changes you decided to make. Bear in mind that the remap cost would be a full cost and that your warranty would be at risk. I have remapped a few previously PPP cars now but owners had also fitted full decats etc.

and yes its more than a blast its a bit neck snapping, It has full boost by 3400 rpm !!! And its making that in all gears bar 1st when it manages 1.4 bar.

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Old 30 April 2004, 09:39 PM
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Bob when does the new turbo arrive bet you can't wait now
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Old 30 April 2004, 09:57 PM
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The new turbo requires some serious consideration, as is the car is supremely quick on A and B roads, its literally neck snapping, I haven't felt the same effect since my son ended up in hospital following a "test" session in my Sti2 wagon !!! Moray you will recall how quick THAT was to accelerate, so considered thinking, ideas already formulated which will probably include the removal of existing turbo as the donor, open mind so all suggestions gratefully received, I have my ideas but open to any other thought's.

I think the best analogy is "two wheel drive Cossie" since the rear has a habit of snapping out with impunity, btw I normally run with DCCD in manual.

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Old 30 April 2004, 10:03 PM
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To add that NO we didn't crash, his neck muscles weren't strong enough !!!!!


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Old 30 April 2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
ambient temps were 9 deg C, air intake was 24 deg C, not bad considering the induction is in the engine bay.

And if you make a proper induction kit that pulls the ambient (re colder air) in, there is potentially even more than the 369 hp to come. Cooler charge temps and all that. 15 degrees less on the charge temp should make some big differences

Go on Bob, give it a try, I'm curious before you fit the new turbo!


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Old 30 April 2004, 10:09 PM
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lol
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Old 30 April 2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
To add that NO we didn't crash, his neck muscles weren't strong enough !!!!!bob









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Old 30 April 2004, 10:29 PM
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Apparantly I'm "some sort of lunatic" according to the Honda Set !!! Although to be fair he had NO idea of what to expect.

I know I like to "move on" ... can't be that bad can I ? ... lol

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Old 01 May 2004, 12:02 AM
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Bob's old STI2 wasn't exactly slow, and, IIRC, it was still running the OE TD05 at the time in question.
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Old 01 May 2004, 09:55 AM
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The new turbo requires some serious consideration, as is the car is supremely quick on A and B roads
Arguably it could be considered the best all rounder you will get from a 2.0/c.8000 RPM already and could be spoilt by a bigger turbo if it is intended to be a road car?
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Old 01 May 2004, 08:26 PM
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If the existing turbo was not pegged on the limit then I'd agree John but I've "rung its neck" at this level and so I need to change to move on. hence the "thought process"


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Old 02 May 2004, 12:57 AM
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That´s excellent and very interesting result with your STi9 road car Bob.
Must be fantastic to drive it.
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Old 02 May 2004, 08:52 PM
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Well Bob mapped my JDM STi twin scroll today and all I can say is .................

Holy ****

A HUGE thanks to Bob for all your time and effort today. Roll on getting the few remaining ponies out

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Old 02 May 2004, 08:56 PM
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any scarey moments on the 419?? lol
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Old 02 May 2004, 09:01 PM
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Nope but seriously anihilated a P1

Actually the most scary thing that springs to mind was watching my fuel needle dropping looking back to the speedo to see *** mph
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Old 02 May 2004, 09:20 PM
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yes i found it a crazy experience, trying to hold the boost at 1bar then realising how fast i was going, scarey lol
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Old 02 May 2004, 09:32 PM
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Wink Oooooer what a pair ;)

Like you wouldn't chase the devil don't chase these tail lights



You wan't some?



Does my bum look big in this



Nope, does mine

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Old 02 May 2004, 10:55 PM
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good to see he gave it a wash


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Old 03 May 2004, 12:37 PM
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Phat! yes
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Old 03 May 2004, 01:11 PM
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fast - MOST DEFFINATLY !
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Old 03 May 2004, 01:28 PM
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Jason,

What other mods did you make to go with the exhaust?

(Me: Janspeed 3" & 'small' induction kit)
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Old 03 May 2004, 04:07 PM
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i didnt do the exhaust as it wasnt ready at the time, i just did the 3 port solenoid and remap, and uprated sti panel filter, i sold my car now anyway, but it was excellent performance, bobs work is great.
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Old 03 May 2004, 04:21 PM
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Oops, that should have read 'Nathan'!
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Old 03 May 2004, 11:11 PM
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Lol

BRD DP
HKS Super Drager BB and CC.
APS Cold Air Kit
3 Port Solenoid
Forge Recirc valve.

Will get the Wastegate actuator and maybe the larger air kit soon.

I've now covered about 200 miles in since the map and it is absolutely gobsmacking. Boost is just instant and it really does pull like a big normally aspirated car from low down, all the way to the rev limit.

PHAT ? Most definitely

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Old 04 May 2004, 01:07 AM
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shush nathan, you make me wanna sell my 1 week old evo and buy another scooby lol
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Old 04 May 2004, 10:44 AM
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Roll on Saturday!
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Old 04 May 2004, 05:17 PM
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Nathan, do you have the small filter on the APS CAI kit or did you put the large BMC item on?

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