New Engine / DriveTrain Project
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Finally Moved the Motorbike out of the way last night.. the car is now in the centre of the garage (only the back half of the garage) not actually the middle..
Ok the car is in the back of the garaged centred between the walls..
Now up on axle stands as high as it will go...
Wheels need to come off..
Brakes need fitting properly..
Diff needs fitting
Gear Box needs fitting
Prop Needs Shortening
Gear Linkage needs fabricating.
David
Ok the car is in the back of the garaged centred between the walls..
Now up on axle stands as high as it will go...
Wheels need to come off..
Brakes need fitting properly..
Diff needs fitting
Gear Box needs fitting
Prop Needs Shortening
Gear Linkage needs fabricating.
David
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External Wastegate
3 More fuel pumps (Right to left.. 2nd Walbaro Uprated, Bosch, Bosch)
Removed driveshaft.. You can see the hole where roll pin fits in.
Gearbox on the jack.
Gearbox on the floor
Some joint for the linkage of the 5spd.. took some getting off..
Where linkage mounts to on 5spd.
Where linkage mounts on 6spd
The shaft that on the 6spd is longer so the bit wont push on far enough..
See here...
And Here...
Cant see too well but I rounded the edges off with the die grinder so it would push on far enough..
David
[Edited by David_Wallis - 24/04/2003 10:03:07]
3 More fuel pumps (Right to left.. 2nd Walbaro Uprated, Bosch, Bosch)
Removed driveshaft.. You can see the hole where roll pin fits in.
Gearbox on the jack.
Gearbox on the floor
Some joint for the linkage of the 5spd.. took some getting off..
Where linkage mounts to on 5spd.
Where linkage mounts on 6spd
The shaft that on the 6spd is longer so the bit wont push on far enough..
See here...
And Here...
Cant see too well but I rounded the edges off with the die grinder so it would push on far enough..
David
[Edited by David_Wallis - 24/04/2003 10:03:07]
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Wastegate was from lateral performance.. couldnt tell you exact pricing as I got a discount for ordering it with a turbo and some other toys.. which are secret until totb...
Paul, the ehaust will exit near the bottom of the downpipe... so yes, but you wont see it.. but should hear it..
David
Paul, the ehaust will exit near the bottom of the downpipe... so yes, but you wont see it.. but should hear it..
David
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typed this as an email.. but may as well paste it in here..
took the gearbox out and looked at the linkage.. I cant modify the 97-00 linkage I have to fit.. but I can modify my 94 linkage to fit..
I have altered it a little bit so far, and once I get a long bolt to bolt half the linkage to the box.. (ie the bit that holds still so you can lever against the box) then I will know what I need to do..) Basically shorten the linkage, as the box is longer than the 5spd... however it has a couple of kinks to avoid the prop.. the linkage also needs cutting and twisting so the lever sits vertical.. as if you look at the new photos there is a rod that comes out of the back of the box.. this has a hole in and its on a different angle on each box... hence the six speed lever not being vertical...
Then its just the reverse check...
basically its a little spring loaded arm that needs to be pulled back all the time, then when you want reverse you pull up on a collar on the gear lever and you can select reverse.. so a bit of bike brake cable and some other bits should sort that.. just need to look at the my02 linkage on my pdf service manual..
David
took the gearbox out and looked at the linkage.. I cant modify the 97-00 linkage I have to fit.. but I can modify my 94 linkage to fit..
I have altered it a little bit so far, and once I get a long bolt to bolt half the linkage to the box.. (ie the bit that holds still so you can lever against the box) then I will know what I need to do..) Basically shorten the linkage, as the box is longer than the 5spd... however it has a couple of kinks to avoid the prop.. the linkage also needs cutting and twisting so the lever sits vertical.. as if you look at the new photos there is a rod that comes out of the back of the box.. this has a hole in and its on a different angle on each box... hence the six speed lever not being vertical...
Then its just the reverse check...
basically its a little spring loaded arm that needs to be pulled back all the time, then when you want reverse you pull up on a collar on the gear lever and you can select reverse.. so a bit of bike brake cable and some other bits should sort that.. just need to look at the my02 linkage on my pdf service manual..
David
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*&^$%^& off.. answered the door to the postie.. ok.. let the dog out to lick him to death... signed for parcels.. (plenty of boards too) and then went back to bed... was 8.00am..
couldnt get last nights pics of the camera either..
David
[Edited by P20SPD - 4/29/2003 2:15:38 PM]
Re-edited by me as stevens language was worse..
[Edited by David_Wallis - 4/29/2003 2:36:32 PM]
couldnt get last nights pics of the camera either..
David
[Edited by P20SPD - 4/29/2003 2:15:38 PM]
Re-edited by me as stevens language was worse..
[Edited by David_Wallis - 4/29/2003 2:36:32 PM]
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Autronic SM2 Ecu..
See www.autronic.com
Supplied by www.madevelopments.com
[Edited by David_Wallis - 4/30/2003 6:45:27 PM]
[Edited by David_Wallis - 5/1/2003 12:13:31 AM]
See www.autronic.com
Supplied by www.madevelopments.com
[Edited by David_Wallis - 4/30/2003 6:45:27 PM]
[Edited by David_Wallis - 5/1/2003 12:13:31 AM]
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Not much progress to tell you about.. Ill look and see if I have any pics on the camera...
Can fully recommend the autronics.. Hmm
Not Impressed with this ecu as yet.. service from supplier has been excelent.. But the ecu is really lacking in certain areas.. had I seen the software prior to buying it then I may not have done..
And chip versions seems a bit crap.. no definitive answer to what you do and dont get with some...
Anyway..
Not all terminals are fully populated on the multiway connector..
(ie 1 cable for 1 of the 4 relay outputs..) and this is for the fuel pump..
so there isnt even a connector for the fan relay..
programming in the software stinks.. A std ok, cancel dialog would be nice.. and a std file dialog box... So much for using windows common control's..
Manual is ****.. relay outputs dont say whether the ecu provides a 12v or Gnd output... It doesnt state what it uses for switching.. ie I dont know whether the fuel pump / combined injector relay output will also power the std fuel pump relay.. Thus keeping away from bypassing my immobilisers..
No mention of the dwell option I have had fitted to this special order ecu.. Nice
No mention of what the tacho output is.. (must have to get the std issue scope on that)
Doesnt seem to be any option for manually testing relay outputs.. ie Turning them on or off.. Probably is though.. see software issue
seems like certain chip versions can monitor more than 1 air temp sensor.. mine cant.. so no ambient and charge temp inputs. Just charge..
Anyway, think I have found a supplier that will sell me the amp connector pins..
David
Can fully recommend the autronics.. Hmm
Not Impressed with this ecu as yet.. service from supplier has been excelent.. But the ecu is really lacking in certain areas.. had I seen the software prior to buying it then I may not have done..
And chip versions seems a bit crap.. no definitive answer to what you do and dont get with some...
Anyway..
Not all terminals are fully populated on the multiway connector..
(ie 1 cable for 1 of the 4 relay outputs..) and this is for the fuel pump..
so there isnt even a connector for the fan relay..
programming in the software stinks.. A std ok, cancel dialog would be nice.. and a std file dialog box... So much for using windows common control's..
Manual is ****.. relay outputs dont say whether the ecu provides a 12v or Gnd output... It doesnt state what it uses for switching.. ie I dont know whether the fuel pump / combined injector relay output will also power the std fuel pump relay.. Thus keeping away from bypassing my immobilisers..
No mention of the dwell option I have had fitted to this special order ecu.. Nice
No mention of what the tacho output is.. (must have to get the std issue scope on that)
Doesnt seem to be any option for manually testing relay outputs.. ie Turning them on or off.. Probably is though.. see software issue
seems like certain chip versions can monitor more than 1 air temp sensor.. mine cant.. so no ambient and charge temp inputs. Just charge..
Anyway, think I have found a supplier that will sell me the amp connector pins..
David
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Well, if it's any concellation, I used the DOS software, and it was very nice. SOme odd menu names, but overall i found this to be good. I didn't try the windows, but strange as it may seem I think you should at least try te dos version. Pectel uses a DOS based package, so can't be all bad.
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I think most ecus use Gnd switching. Nothing I have come across switches 12v, although I havent used that many.
On my ecu, it requires a seperate ign relay to provide +12v to power the ecu, coils, and injectors, and then the ecu provides -ve to switch the injectors or coils as required. All other outputs, or switch triggers are to -Gnd
Nothing is switched with a +12v from the ecu. Temp sensors are all to Grnd also with a signal wire to the ecu.
Id think there should be a dedicated tacho signal output somewhere.
Can the autotune be linked up to a wideband output, for closed loop fuelling control? It would make mapping intitally a lot easier.
On my ecu, it requires a seperate ign relay to provide +12v to power the ecu, coils, and injectors, and then the ecu provides -ve to switch the injectors or coils as required. All other outputs, or switch triggers are to -Gnd
Nothing is switched with a +12v from the ecu. Temp sensors are all to Grnd also with a signal wire to the ecu.
Id think there should be a dedicated tacho signal output somewhere.
Can the autotune be linked up to a wideband output, for closed loop fuelling control? It would make mapping intitally a lot easier.
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Yeah I figure it would be gnd switching.. but sometimes when youve spent a lot of money you would like it confirming..
Tacho does have a dedicated output (ign coil 4 output..)
ign 3 is spare..
and 1 and 2 for coils.. running wasted spark..
Im sure I asked for four coil dwell.. not two coild
I am going to modify a Techedge W/Band Lambda to input a 0 - 1v input which will help with datalogging..
Christian.. becuase my preferred choice of engine mapper doesnt want to use it and doesnt like it.
David
Tacho does have a dedicated output (ign coil 4 output..)
ign 3 is spare..
and 1 and 2 for coils.. running wasted spark..
Im sure I asked for four coil dwell.. not two coild
I am going to modify a Techedge W/Band Lambda to input a 0 - 1v input which will help with datalogging..
Christian.. becuase my preferred choice of engine mapper doesnt want to use it and doesnt like it.
David
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I've seen a set of these headers, part of the problem is when they are allowed to flex it flares the sleeves on the outside of the joints.
Springs on the outside of heatwrap will do quite well. But they are going to be VERY strong springs. With up to 45psi back pressure that's 55lb force trying to open each joint.
Instead of springs, I think a small tie bar with a generous curve would be better, the curve would allow movement, but they would only go so far.
Andy,
Material wise I don't know TBH. Mild steel doesn't quite feel right at such high temps, but it will be in a largely oxygen free environment, so corrosion and scale shouldn't be a problem. At least the mild steel expands much less with heat.
Paul
[Edited by Pavlo - 7/5/2003 12:51:55 AM]
Springs on the outside of heatwrap will do quite well. But they are going to be VERY strong springs. With up to 45psi back pressure that's 55lb force trying to open each joint.
Instead of springs, I think a small tie bar with a generous curve would be better, the curve would allow movement, but they would only go so far.
Andy,
Material wise I don't know TBH. Mild steel doesn't quite feel right at such high temps, but it will be in a largely oxygen free environment, so corrosion and scale shouldn't be a problem. At least the mild steel expands much less with heat.
Paul
[Edited by Pavlo - 7/5/2003 12:51:55 AM]
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David - why not sell the v1 TechEdge and buy a version 1.5 which has the 0-1v output already? Having said that, it you find a nice solution to converting 0-5 o/p to a 0-1v one suitable for ecu...I'm interested too
Richard
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