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Old 22 October 2002, 11:34 PM
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Nick, had probs on way home tonight with my hid's, near-side flickering and then going off totally.

Had a peak at the wiring and it came back on for a few secs, anyways pretty sure it was the relay, the contacts were a bit scabby looking so I cleaned them up and sprayed on some circuit cleaner and all's now well but,

Shouldn't the relay and socket be kept covered/water tight ? I'm sure that the corrosion is new, damp/rain coming in thru radiator causing it I think.

Any suggestions ? or at least something better than a plastic bag
Old 23 October 2002, 08:19 AM
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Sorry to hear you are having problems. It seems as though your connection issue is caused by water ingress between the relay block and the relay pins themselves. This can be cured in a number of ways. The easiest is to try and move the relay to a position where it is not in the direct path of water entering the under bonnet section. Easily said but often not possible. The second option is that we can send you a section of HTAT which you place over the joint as in the ballast to lamp connection and heat seal it. It works but to replace the relay at any point you will need to cut through this sealed joint. Third solution is to seal the joint with either silicon sealant or a grease. It often does not look as good but the seal is easily broken if required. The final solution other than placing this section of the harness in a small sealed box is to spray it with a product such as damp start. This creates a thin plastic film over all the surfaces and will also help.


I am sorry I cannot identify which kit you have from your forum name so let me know directly. If you have had one of the single filament kits we can also send you a FET harness which is sealed from the start but you will have to trial it to see if this solution works on your car.

I hope this helps and if you would like further help please let us know
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Old 23 October 2002, 08:55 AM
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DON'T use grease on terminals as it is an electrical insulator. Vaseline is a conductor and should be used instead!
Old 23 October 2002, 10:45 AM
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But if there are two terminals close together, as in a twin connector, won't the Vaseline conduct current between the connectors, and cause a short?
My advice would be to assemble the connectors, ensure you have a good connection, then put grease on the outside of the connector--that's if you must use grease, or similar. I'm sure I've seen waterproof connectors for sale in RS though ?
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Old 23 October 2002, 12:08 PM
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Sorry perhaps a little unclear.

The relay pushes into the relay block and the water ingress is in the very small joint that is not sealed between the block and relay housing. While the relay is sealed water can get in this gap. Grease can be used to seal this gap and does not need to come into contact with the relay pins at all.

I am not aware of a waterproof relay block, relay interface but if someone can point us in the right direction I am happy to look into it. The FET harness is 100% sealed so it solves the issues but is still in pre qual production and is not applicable to all the kits. This should be finalised within the next couple of weeks

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Old 23 October 2002, 12:12 PM
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Nick,

I installed mine and works spot on
Old 23 October 2002, 06:12 PM
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autolams i have sent u 2 emails about a hylow dipped and main beam kit for the classic impreza but havnt rcvd a reply.what i want to know is a)will the kit work for dipped and main beam on my car b)cost of kit and the difference between 4000k and 6000k kit c)does install require any cutting of wires at present my h4 bulb just has 3 wires going to each bulb but they are different colour each side..thks paul
Old 23 October 2002, 06:35 PM
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has anyone fitted the hylow kit into a classic my99/00 scoob
Old 23 October 2002, 06:47 PM
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Hi Nick,

Nearside was dead this morning and couldn't be revived, had to grab a lift from someone at work, anyways this afternoon had a proper look and found the relay to be burnt out.
Deffo caused by water seeping into the socket/connector from underneath.
Brought 2 new relays for £11 and this time used 2 sealable bags to enclose the whole relay/socket, and used sealant to seal all around the relay and also the backend.
Its as water-proof as you can make it now, so just a word of caution for anybody thats fitted or about to fit the kit
Old 23 October 2002, 07:11 PM
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You should have contacted us for replacement relays!.

Please contact us directly , I will send you some spare relays incase it happens again and refund the £11 directly to your credit card for your troubles.

Nick
Old 23 October 2002, 07:21 PM
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Ninja,

Sorry we are still sorting through the 1408 mails we got over the last 2 weeks.

The H4 halogen lamp is a generic lamp and regardless of make the earth, dip and main filaments are the same with every lamp worldwide. The generic nature of the construction of the H4 and the consequent designn of the optics means that if you understand this relationship and how the optics work you can design a generic HID conversion. This is what we have done. Therefore the HYLOW will fit you car and the only issues is the proximity of the H4 glare shield often installed in H4 headlamp systems.

The simple reply is if you are not happy send it back and we will give you a full refund. The wiring is designed to plug in to your harness and all the connectors are supplied in the kit and no cutting is needed.

The difference between 4100K and 6000K can be seen here http://www.autolamps-online.com/gasdischarge/ultinonapplications.htm

The reality is if you want performance have the 4100K as has a higher lumen output but if you want the more syle orientated Blue colour then 6000K is the choice. Its a very personal thing.

Please note if you want the very best dip beam pattern then the H4 with beam adapter is the ultimate but you do lose your main or high beam with this kit.

Sorry for the delay

Nick
Old 23 October 2002, 09:15 PM
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Nick, its not a problem, not moaning, nothing but praise for the conversion

Plus needed relays asap, 800 miles in a week in my old boat (with car sharing too)
Old 24 October 2002, 06:38 AM
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thanks for reply nick..with regard to the glare shield is it because the hid capsules are longer than a standard bulb??..and how will this affect the light output/will it melt the glare shield..do u have the hylow kits in stock for the impreza in 4000k and 6000k and u say it plugs into the loom does that mean it has a 3 pin connector that i just push into my loom..has anyone purchased the hylow kit for impreza that i can talk to re any probs and last of all if i go the morette route would one of ur kits work in these..thks paul
Old 24 October 2002, 08:24 AM
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Yes the HID HYLOW H4 lamp is longer than the standard halogen H4 as it already has a built in shield. The physical fit is all you have to be concerned with and you wuill not melt any part of your headlamp system. Well the reason that HID at 35 watts gives more light than a halogen at 55w is much more of the input energy is converted to light and much less to heat. During the D2 introduction back in the early 90's one concern was that due to the limited IR given our by the D2 Discharge lamp it did not clear the ice away as well as a halogen on the headlamp lens. Many people confuse the issue of more light with more heat , the opposite is in fact true when you change lamp technology.

Regardless of who HID you buy a twin filament conversion such as H4, 9004 or 9007 are all compromises. Easily the best results are gained both in perfomance and beam distribution are from single filament headlamp housings. If you can convert using a Morette or any other headlamp which gives you H1 or H7 low beam this is your best option but then it does add cost. We can offer a conversion for any car or motorcycle with the following halogen systems. If space is tight we can also offer a ballast system that mounts the ballast anywhere you like in the car such as the boot or under the front seats for example. This is for single filament conversion and is not applicable to the HYLOW kit. Just keep asking until you are happy.

H1, H3 (not ideal as transverse filament) H7, 9005,9006,H4, 9003, 9007, 9004 (again transverse filament and you lose high beam).

Hope this helps

Nick
Old 24 October 2002, 09:45 AM
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nick if i went the morette route which kit wld i need for dipped beam..i think it is a h4 bulb and do u do it in 6000k..once again what wld cost be..with the hylow basically will it give me the improvement i want in lighting wnen u talk of compromises do u mean its not as bright because there are 2 shields one standard and one on the bulb..are both the hylow and single filament in stock in 6000k form..thks
Old 25 October 2002, 08:50 AM
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We have kept a number of you guys waiting while we handle the back log caused by our Asian committments.

As compensation we will offer FREE ''other function' upgrade to say sorry.Let us know which lamps you want and the options are BlueVision, VisionPlus for main beam , Allweather for your fog lights or SilverVision for your indicators.

Thanks for everyones understanding

Nick
Old 25 October 2002, 09:43 AM
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nick any chance u cold look at the post above yours on the verge of ordering just need to clarify things..on morettes there is no diffuser or glare shield will beam be all over the place..and what sort of improvement can i expect with hylow kit as i cant fine anyone who has fitted this to their scoob..do u have all kits in stock..paul/
Old 25 October 2002, 02:15 PM
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Sorry to spoil the party but i've just noticed this on e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1779617663

its a link to H.I.D upgrades and comes in single and dual mode, price is good too. Just thought i'd let you guys know! I am in no way associated with CA automotive or any other company!

Gavin
Old 25 October 2002, 02:17 PM
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Sorry to spoil the party but i've just noticed this on e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1779617663

its a link to H.I.D upgrades and comes in single and dual mode, price is good too. Just thought i'd let you guys know! I am in no way associated with CA automotive or any other company!

Gavin
Old 25 October 2002, 05:37 PM
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The H4 with beam adapter and the H4 Hylow is available in both 4100K and 6000K. The cost can be found here http://www.autolamps-online.com/products/orderform.htm and you get 10% discount for the scoobynet group buy. No the compromise is that to offer both low beam and high beam from a plasma arc is a compromise in beam distribution. With a single pocket headlamp H1 for example you need only to calculate the single filament and reflector configuration and then design the HID lamp accordingly. The H4 system traditionally uses two filaments and with an HID lamp neither low beam or high beam is 100% ideal in regards beam distribution. It’s just a fact and there is nothing you can do. To achieve a perfect dip pattern on an H4 system your need the beam adapter kit and here you lose the high or main beam. That’s why it’s a compromise.

Both systems will be in stock early next week as we are producing more kits over and during the weekend and we are currently running production at 18 hours per day.

I do not know what improvements you are expecting. The HID lamp is approx 3 times brighter than your halogen lamps but whether this performance is what you expect I cannot say. All I can say is that we use only 100% Philips components in both electronics and lamps so can confidently say you cannot buy a better kit given my design and industry background. There are cheaper kits but then Audi, Mercedes, BMW etc can also buy cheaper from Taiwan and Korea but they don’t, they use the same components as supplied in our kits.

As always if you are not happy we will give you a full and complete refund

Nick
Old 29 October 2002, 12:36 AM
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Ordered mine Friday. So with 3 days to go how near are we to getting the 15% discount? Can't be far off 20 sets now can we?

Fingers out boys and we're all £15 better off!!
Old 29 October 2002, 09:13 AM
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Another one ordered this morning.
Fingers crossed at another £20 off.
Are we nearly there??????
Old 30 October 2002, 04:38 PM
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So what would be the cost of a single bulb H4 conversion kit for a Bike (ZX6R G1)?.

Ash
Old 30 October 2002, 07:58 PM
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Mine arrived today, after a bit of a kerfuffle with WorldPray....

Thanks to Janet at Autolamps for helping sort this out
Old 30 October 2002, 08:37 PM
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Autolamps,

Are we near the 15% off mark yet?

Ta
Old 31 October 2002, 01:43 AM
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Message for Dave,

Dave just a quick post, ive just stumbled accross you guys here, and notice you are updrading your lights to HID's, How did it go ?

Do you have the clear lenses on your cars or the normal halogen lenses?

I am starting to import these upgrades soon, If you wanna have a look at my site your all more then welcome

www.sunglassesron.org

Ive got a slightly different kit to yours, but there very much the same, have you been pulled by the fuzz yet? thats my only worry.

Sorry for barging in but I had to see how you got on after reading 6 pages of Lol.

BTW im not a scooby owner, I got an A4 quatrro but hey we all want the same thing in the end !!

Good luck
Ronny
ps i live in WSM if any of you are cruising round weston one night give us a flash
Old 31 October 2002, 09:06 AM
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Ron

Two things, firstly I haven't a clue what you mean by "Do you have the clear lenses on your cars or the normal halogen lenses"

My first thought to that is that if you don't know what lamps an STi7 has, I wouldn't want to buy an HID kit off you!

Secondly, I have to warn you that if you wish to advertise commercially on here you have to buy a banner ad. Nothing to do with me, just pointing out the rules
Old 31 October 2002, 09:10 AM
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I only came in to see how your installation went, and I'm not asking if you want to buy them, I was just saying have a look on the site, oh well perhaps I got it all wrong nm

Ron
Old 31 October 2002, 12:09 PM
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Nick - Autolamps,
Any news on despatch for Hylow kits yet?
Was hoping to get the kit for the weekend.

Tim.
Old 31 October 2002, 01:17 PM
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I'm still waiting for mine!


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