Jacey Boy

Goon,
Bang on mate, I did it the same way

Jacey Boy

Shane,

You should post a pic of the lights on the car to show the light

Big Goon

Hmm, piccy isn't much use, too bright for the camera auto-focus really, but the lights are very good, nice one Jase

Jacey Boy

They are fantastic arnt they m8, just about to cruise Bournemouth, let everyone soak up the rays!

I will try and post a better pic at night

ScoobyTal

sorry for being dim (no pun intended) are these just for newage or will they fit my00 ??


Tal - tempted

Big Goon

Dont know much about classics, but I know they fit any car, you just need to order the kit with correct lamp type.

For the WRX/STi its a H1 stylie.

Dave T-S

Tal
Assuming your lights are standard, i.e. not Morettes, then you need an H4 kit. This is when the potential problems start......

Talk to Autolamps Online.

ScoobyTal

what problems ?

Dave T-S

The H4 bulb is dual filament, with a separate filament for dip and main beam. It dips the lights by having the two filaments in different places in the bulb capsule, and thus the beam is dipped by it being reflected at a different place on the lamp reflector.

Imagine shining a torch on to a mirror, if you move the torch, the light is reflected off the mirror at a different angle. Same principle.

The HID zenon capsule only uses one filament even in H4 fitment(it's not actually a filament, but for the purposes of this pretend it is). It therefore has to dip the capsule mechanically to achieve dip and main beam which is not ideal, and not an efficient mechanical solution to the problem. However, talk to Autolamps as they know far more about it than me

Big Goon

Me bows down to the mighty oracle known as DTS

Get on with the front fog coversion anyway

Wester

Another question to add to Lofi's post from the future, or is it only my machine that says it was posted on 10th Dec 2002 ??????

I am confused by the legal position of using the HID H4 Hylow upgrade.
The HID headlight upgrade from Scoobysport doesn't mention it is for off road use only, and I don't think the official Subaru HID Headlight kit includes auto leveling and washers, as the information provided by Nick said it had too.
So why are these kits for 'Off Road Use Only'???

LoFi

No - you're right - I've had the Sti PPP for months now

Piers LoFi

Edited because the date is now right - how queer

[Edited by LoFi - 10/13/2002 1:26:36 AM]

Jacey Boy

HID Lamps say for off road use only as stated as they are not allowed to sell them as Road Legal as not all cars have leveling headlamps.

Dave T-S

Big Goon
About to start - now my head is clear after last night's wine tasting

LoFi
Yes, you need the HiLow kit. I am sure the dip/main must work properly, or they wouldn't sell them. Best check with Autolamps.

From experience, having had a bugeye, the standard headlamps are poor, and as the old saying goes "you can't polish a turd".

You would probably be better off fitting Morettes, which DO work much better, and putting HID in them if you want.

The HID kit is retro removable, HOWEVER the Morettes use an H7 dip beam and the H4 HID will not fit even by swopping the capsules as the HT wiring from the ballast to the capsule is different - so you won't be able to fit H4 HID now, and move it to Morettes in the future

Wester
IIRC, you can't fit HID in Europe unless washers and autolevelling are fitted, so they are sold on the basis of for off road use only. I don't think they are illegal but it is probably a grey area.

LoFi
Re the date, the BBS software reverts to US dates sometimes, when the numbers allow - they use mm/dd/yyyy not dd/mm/yyyy like us.

12 Oct can reverse to 10 December as that is an actual date, but as there is no 13th month the date automatically reverts back to the correct one as the 12th changes to the 13th

LoFi

Dave,

thanks for the reply. Shame, I think I'll have to leave it for now as the move from standard bugeyes to morettes is not straight forward. Boo Hoo

Piers LoFi

Rob D

I'm a bit confused, the 4100K version is the brighter of the 2 kits correct?
The 6000K kit is just a blue version, so why is it more expensive?

Sorry for being so dumb if I've missed the point.

Cheers,

Rob.

Chelspeed

That confused me too. The comments in the letter from Nick seems to contradict the web page. I've emailed the address quoted earlier in the thread asking them this question. From a comment above I think they're on hols until 18th so not surprised to not have an answer yet. Anyone else know?

Jacey Boy

Dont know why there more expensive, I suppose you pay for a better color light thats all, I have the 6000K and they are good, just like daylight!

Rob D

Can anyone answer my question above?

Regards,

Rob.

adair69

Anybody else pay for the kit and have to wait until now. So far I have paid the money and given interest free credit to the company. I think it would have been better for them to have taken a deposit and not the whole amount. I'm not griping about the group buy, I still think that whatever you get off is great news, its just I only thought about it today when this last post prompted me, but I paid the money and the Company knew that they would be on shut down and did not know when their stock would be in. So I still wait until Monday to know when I'll get the goods, and the money went out the day I ordered.
As I say don't get me wrong, but thinking about it if 5 people ordered and paid £360 a piece, that's £1500 in their account for 3 weeks. (wish my clients did the same)
Anyway gripe over, can't wait to fit them...

Jacey Boy

As you know they have been in Japan for 2 weeks, I was told that they would supply for Free of Charge some uprated bulbs, if this is not the case please email them asap.

Rob,

Does it really matter?, they obviously cost more as its a better light

Dave T-S

I read the thread *properly*, and didn't order mine as they were going to be away for two weeks.....

As for having £1500 in their bank account for a couple of weeks, wow, aren't they going to have a wild party on the 22p interest they have earned on that!

Jacey Boy

Dave,

Hoppy

Rob, just a guess at your question as I don't have a clue how these things work but...

If the colour temperature of the light as standard is 4100K then to raise it to 6000K will mean putting some red filtration into the light somehow. This will remove red, add production cost, make the lights look more blue, but actually less bright. Price of fashion. But these things pump out so much light there's still plenty left to see with.

Contrary to popular belief, blue-look lights are not brighter and do not let you see better. Often the reverse. The eye is most sesnitive to yellow/green (colour of those safety jackets). Blue-look lights can be very hard to see with in fog as the water refracts the blue end of the spectrum and it can be almost blinding (opposite of why sunsets are red).

Cheers,

Richard (happy with my 80/100 bulbs for £12 a pair)

Rob D

Cheers Hoppy

Well thats a order in for a 4100K kit

Rob.

SimonH

Now then. Can I change the bulbs in my P1 Hella driving lights for some of these things?? Anyone know?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

On that last question, I'd give Hella UK a ring on monday, and ask to speak to technical helpline. They are pretty clued up, and very helpful.
Alcazar

Huxley

Alcazar i would email Autolamps-online as they could be cheaper than Hella.

I have just got two HID ballasts for our scoob going to do away with high beam for now as we have got the PIAA spots for high beam


Huxley

Autolamps

Gents,

Sorry for the two week delay but the show and exhibition in Asia is the biggest of the year for us and takes significant time , money and resources.

However back and now fully operational again so any questions, problems or queries fire away either directly or on this forum. This can be applicable to either HID or halogen technology

autolamps-online@autolamps-online.com

Nick

WillieF

mmmm I am very very tempted... but there are other demands on my wallet...shall I ??