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Old 04 June 2019, 04:38 PM
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Smashes ev record....
Old 04 June 2019, 04:39 PM
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If he'd charged the batteries up with solar , that morning , I'd have been impressed
Old 05 June 2019, 12:34 PM
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VW ID.R All Electric = 6:05
Porsche 919 Petrol Hybrid = 5:19

When an EV can win Le Mans, then I'll be impressed!
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Electric car take up has increased rapidly with Tesla listing at no 3 on sales last month in the UK of overall vehicle sales.

Decline in hybrids is gathering pace

Good news
Old 08 September 2019, 12:34 PM
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Sales of electic Doubled in a year

up to 1% of all sales !
Old 08 September 2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Sales of electic Doubled in a year

up to 1% of all sales !
Its a bit like apple v Android. Just give it a little time.
Old 09 September 2019, 10:29 AM
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All they simply need to do is price them properly. In fact, just slightly less than a normal car

Everyone would buy one. Someone could make a fortune and the Middle East would stop buying our football teams.lol
Old 09 September 2019, 10:51 AM
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But how many of these are solar powered ?

its only rich and poor people can run them presently
Old 09 September 2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
All they simply need to do is price them properly. In fact, just slightly less than a normal car

Everyone would buy one. Someone could make a fortune and the Middle East would stop buying our football teams.lol
any pollution sky rockets.
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We pick up our Tesla Model 3 next week
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I dont know how anybody can claim this is a low cost car

was it delivered on a electric transporter ?
Old 17 September 2019, 09:05 AM
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Space X I believe
Old 17 September 2019, 10:27 AM
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This is the fuel of the future




Originally Posted by dpb
So have i got this right

There's almost no benefit to the environment in having a leccy car in places where coal is king ie most the undeveloped world
Old 17 September 2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
We pick up our Tesla Model 3 next week
you pollutionist you, hahahaha

please tell me you didn't buy it because of its 'green' credentials?
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I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials
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Originally Posted by dpb
I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials
Something like 90% of all new vehicles seen om UK roads are leased. Alot by people who cant afford to lease

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FCg1EjJvLnjjLy

In the meantime driving an EV will help against this upsetting research

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...lacentas-study
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Originally Posted by dpb
I can't helping thinking buying a new car every year is the real problem here ,regardless of its credentials
some are worse that others, electric being the worst of the bunch unless you go above something the size of a 5 series bmw
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Originally Posted by andy97
Something like 90% of all new vehicles seen om UK roads are leased. Alot by people who cant afford to lease

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FCg1EjJvLnjjLy

In the meantime driving an EV will help against this upsetting research

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...lacentas-study

So its better for a few rich to buy new rather then the many to rent ?
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Originally Posted by dpb
So its better for a few rich to buy new rather then the many to rent ?
It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe
Old 17 September 2019, 08:49 PM
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Fully agree watched a programme explaining it. Plus I believe it said it would back lash on the car manufacturers and explained why. It's on YouTube somewhere.

Originally Posted by andy97
It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe
Old 18 September 2019, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
It is just a financial time bomb, like sub prime mortgages. It will come back to bite those who can least afford to lease a car.

Live within your means, whatever level rhat maybe
Felt like a weight off my shoulders when I paid mine off.

And I'll keep it for another 5 years now...
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All deals i can see involve people never owing the vehicle
Old 21 September 2019, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
All deals i can see involve people never owing the vehicle
Thats the whole point. You sign upto 3 years to pay for a vehicles- nice and new- coz people like to show off their lovely new motor they're driving, paying quite alot each month Lease cars are restricted on mileage, require the borrower to service and maintain thee vehicle as per agreement. Then come the end either pay a big balloon payment to actually own the car or give it back. The person is then stuck with either pay balloon (which most haven't got). Have no car, either sign up to another lease deal or buy a cheaper older car- folk invariably wont do the latter for fear of community standing. Meanwhile owning a lease car has a drain on finance for other commitments.

All well and good if income can meet the never ending lease treadmill.
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Watched a video the other day " people buy cars to impress people they don't even like"

Lol
Old 21 September 2019, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Thats the whole point. You sign upto 3 years to pay for a vehicles- nice and new- coz people like to show off their lovely new motor they're driving, paying quite alot each month Lease cars are restricted on mileage, require the borrower to service and maintain thee vehicle as per agreement. Then come the end either pay a big balloon payment to actually own the car or give it back. The person is then stuck with either pay balloon (which most haven't got). Have no car, either sign up to another lease deal or buy a cheaper older car- folk invariably wont do the latter for fear of community standing. Meanwhile owning a lease car has a drain on finance for other commitments.

All well and good if income can meet the never ending lease treadmill.

i hope youre not claiming its more expensive than the depreciation on a new car
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Originally Posted by dpb
i hope youre not claiming its more expensive than the depreciation on a new car
They're paying for the depreciation in the first 3 years which is the greatest amount, then asked to buy a car with an inflated balloon payment.

PCP, lease all benefit those who sell them not the user of the car.

Unless you're leasing through a business where tax breaks can be of benefit
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Well you wouldnt make the ballon payment , that would be crazy
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Vote labour, get lots more EVs and charge points
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Originally Posted by andy97
Vote labour, get lots more EVs and charge points
Old 24 September 2019, 08:07 AM
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He'd have to become a remainer !


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