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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 02:38 PM
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On the whole, I would say Teachers failed me rather than educated me!
I agree!
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 06:04 PM
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1979 Callaghan 269 seats admits defeat and resigns.

1992 Kinnock 271 seats admits defeat and resigns

2017 Corbyn 262 seats claims victory and demands the winner resigns.


And before Corbyn starts moaning about the DUP deal have a read of the following:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...t-for-the-ira/

Corbyn would probably have been happy to do a deal with the IRA.

How can anybody think he would make a suitable prime minister?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by guinnessman2001
1979 Callaghan 269 seats admits defeat and resigns.

1992 Kinnock 271 seats admits defeat and resigns

2017 Corbyn 262 seats claims victory and demands the winner resigns.


And before Corbyn starts moaning about the DUP deal have a read of the following:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...t-for-the-ira/

Corbyn would probably have been happy to do a deal with the IRA.

How can anybody think he would make a suitable prime minister?
I think Corbyn would be a terrible PM, but there again May IS a terrible PM.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I think Corbyn would be a terrible PM, but there again May IS a terrible PM.

Lacks charisma but too early to say she is terrible After leaving the EI and the economy then we can judge
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Lacks charisma but too early to say she is terrible After leaving the EI and the economy then we can judge
I wonder if you'd be so patient and understanding if we were talking about a Labour PM?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:11 PM
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Farron quits as leader of lib Dems. Another casualty of not backing Brexit
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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I wonder if you'd be so patient and understanding if we were talking about a Labour PM?
Not if it was Corbyn,. Labour have no one to lead a country at the moment. Labour can play their part in backing the process of leaving the EU. Maybe in 10 years time they might come across a candidate with the right credentials and vision which the UK could believe in
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Not if it was Corbyn,. Labour have no one to lead a country at the moment. Labour can play their part in backing the process of leaving the EU. Maybe in 10 years time they might come across a candidate with the right credentials and vision which the UK could believe in
That's a nice swerve 😀

Btw it's not the oppositions job to 'assist' the government. They are supposed to hold them to account!

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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
That's a nice swerve 😀

Btw it's not the oppositions job to 'assist' the government. They are supposed to hold them to account!

In this instance it is better they assist, to bring the nation together as they say, in the new era of the UK being outside the EU
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Farron quits as leader of lib Dems. Another casualty of not backing Brexit
Casualty , how ?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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In this instance it is better they assist, to bring the nation together as they say, in the new era of the UK being outside the EU
Are you insane?
You can't give the government a free hand on this. Unless you don't actually care what they get out of the negotiation?
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Are you insane?
You can't give the government a free hand on this. Unless you don't actually care what they get out of the negotiation?
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I want the UK government to get a bloody good deal or no deal.

The die is cast now, guy verhofstadt says even if we try and stay now, no more rebates, perks or preferential treatment. The EU are moving to a federal one name state. Either they will achieve this or collapse. If your personal preference is to be part of this EU then I suggest you get your application in for EU citizenship pretty sharpish

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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:09 PM
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How would a 'No deal' playout in your eyes Andy
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Casualty , how ?

His aggressive anti Brexit stance and demanding further referendums alienated his constituency. He was lucky to survive the election. A huge warning shot had been made by his voters. He is using the gay excuse to duck out
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:17 PM
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an awful lot of conjecture
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
I want the UK government to get a bloody good deal or no deal.

The die is cast now, guy verhofstadt says even if we try and stay now, no more rebates, perks or preferential treatment. The EU are moving to a federal one name state. Either they will achieve this or collapse. If your personal preference is to be part of this EU then I suggest you get your application in for EU citizenship pretty sharpish
So what constitutes a good deal?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
I want the UK government to get a bloody good deal or no deal.

The die is cast now, guy verhofstadt says even if we try and stay now, no more rebates, perks or preferential treatment. The EU are moving to a federal one name state. Either they will achieve this or collapse. If your personal preference is to be part of this EU then I suggest you get your application in for EU citizenship pretty sharpish
You know there's many more options than bloody good and no deal?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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So what constitutes a good deal?
For me personally I believe a clean break and accept WTO. Trying to get a great deal will involve too many entanglements/costs. However let's see what the deal is brokered at the end of year 2.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
For me personally I believe a clean break and accept WTO. Trying to get a great deal will involve too many entanglements/costs. However let's see what the deal is brokered at the end of year 2.
And this is why we're in this position. People who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about!
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And this is why we're in this position. People who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about!
Exactly your subtle undertones suggesting the majority of UK voting population​ don't have a clue. This 'I am better than you' brought us to this position.

One vote is equal to any other
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Exactly your subtle undertones suggesting the majority of UK voting population​ don't have a clue. This 'I am better than you' brought us to this position.

One vote is equal to any other
I wasn't being subtle...
You don't know what you're talking about.

I know some very smart people who voted leave, usually because of the 'sovereignty issue'.

I don't know anyone who thinks defaulting to WTO rules would be anything other than disastrous for our economy. Thankfully there's no way that the government will allow us to be in that position.
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I wasn't being subtle...
You don't know what you're talking about.

I know some very smart people who voted leave, usually because of the 'sovereignty issue'.

I don't know anyone who thinks defaulting to WTO rules would be anything other than disastrous for our economy. Thankfully there's no way that the government will allow us to be in that position.
I know lots of smart people who voted both ways, so what. This isn't my dad is bigger than yours.

Neither do you, unless you're in government and have a direct influence on the negotiations then my opinion is valid as the next person.

Let's wait and see what the EU sand and whether the UK will accept.
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http://www.cbi.org.uk/global-future/...udy06_wto.html

We should start plastering southern England with plastico Now , if we want reasonable priced salad
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
On the whole, I would say Teachers failed me rather than educated me!

So yeah, teachers have played a role in my education, but only a limited role! My real knowledge I have largely taught myself, through further reading or personal experimentation! I don't accept anything anyone tells me, I always want to question, examine and understand the evidence myself! I will never "Just Accept"!!!

I value teachers, they play an important role in society, even though in my experience there are some very bad teachers out there, most try their best and at least try to inspire their students to go further than they ever could! I do not see teachers as fountains of all knowledge though, they are fallible human beings like the rest of us, myself included, and have a limit to their own knowledge and will, to varying degrees, make mistakes and get things wrong!

Am I happy with my level of education, yes! Am I happy with my teachers, less so!
So who taught you to read and write fluently?
To be able to handle mathematics?

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So who taught you to read and write fluently?
To be able to handle mathematics?

I once got detention from my science teacher becuse of Mathematics.

We did a test which we had to self mark and he gave us the formula for working out the %.

I applied the formula and got 102% - Which I announced to the class.

Got detention for being cheeky.

He got the prize for being a thick **** as his formula was wrong

But generally my education was pretty good - as with anything there are plenty of bad apples that get all the attention but the good eggs just get on with it.
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Soooo. This time last year a load of people didn't vote to remain in the EU because they were too busy at Glastonbury etc.


If May had called the election now, would She have had a greater majority?



(Ignoring the tower block fiasco, for now as that wasn't a predictable event).

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Soooo. This time last year a load of people didn't vote to remain in the EU because they were too busy at Glastonbury etc.


If May had called the election now, would She have had a greater majority?



(Ignoring the tower block fiasco, for now as that wasn't a predictable event).
people have bought into labours promises of everything without a downside.

That said may lost the election, not labour won it. SNP got the biggest gang banging though
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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May pissed off the grey vote, and really offered nothing except more of the same. A bit arrogant, I'm afraid. She must have been badly advised.
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May just comes across as soul less to me and no real gumption... remember when no one wanted to talk to here at the EU meeting... she was like a lost little puppy... not the behaviour of a states woman... one needs to command respect... all she commands is contempt.

I'd sooner have Corbyn as Prime minister at least he would do something for the people... we're in dept up to our eyeballs anyway with not much chance of getting out of it anytime in the next 50yrs so what's a few more billions worth going to do.

We may even benefit from some of his plans in the long term... like re-nationalisation of our rail transport network.

One thing is for sure... a conservative government is only going to shaft the poor/ average working man and make the rich richer.


And Brexit is a farce that needs to be stopped, because that alone is probably going to cost us more than any of Corbyns plans.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
May just comes across as soul less to me and no real gumption... remember when no one wanted to talk to here at the EU meeting... she was like a lost little puppy... not the behaviour of a states woman... one needs to command respect... all she commands is contempt.

I'd sooner have Corbyn as Prime minister at least he would do something for the people... we're in dept up to our eyeballs anyway with not much chance of getting out of it anytime in the next 50yrs so what's a few more billions worth going to do.

We may even benefit from some of his plans in the long term... like re-nationalisation of our rail transport network.

One thing is for sure... a conservative government is only going to shaft the poor/ average working man and make the rich richer.


And Brexit is a farce that needs to be stopped, because that alone is probably going to cost us more than any of Corbyns plans.
Why not? I suppose the Greeks are still doing ok with no money
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