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These people are cowards. They thrive and only can exist with anonimity. A tiny portion may go over the edge but they will be unprepared, known to the public as well as the police and any action will be seen a mile off.
Pandering to their right to anonymity gives them the power. Pandering has landed us in this mess and that 3000 will only get larger.
So just to confirm, your solution is to publish a list of 3000 would-be Jihadis. Then what?
These people are cowards. They thrive and only can exist with anonimity. A tiny portion may go over the edge but they will be unprepared, known to the public as well as the police and any action will be seen a mile off.
Pandering to their right to anonymity gives them the power. Pandering has landed us in this mess and that 3000 will only get larger.
That's quite presumptuous. Anonymity gives them the luxury of time, name and shaming may well encourage more of them to pull their fingers out and get on with it. I'd imagine quite a large percentage of that 3000 people would never amount to anything if they remained anonymous with no timescale to work to.
As for your idea! FFS go read it back to yourself and ask 'where could this go wrong'?
I've been thinking about it for some time. Bounced it off a few people, had criticism, and praise, still convinced it's better than accepting British children will be killed again in the near future.
I don't think even Kwik would advocate that, would he?
Originally Posted by Kwik
I stand by my 'stupid' suggestion to name and shame the 3000 potential terrorists in the UK. I expect some vigilantism, some runners and some unprepared hastily put together plots to emerge from it but I expect
Community, fear of being on that list and unity to come from it. Right now we aren't sufficiently protected from the 3000 (too much for an already strained police force) but the 3000 are protected from us.
Give the power back to the people.
That's quite presumptuous. Anonymity gives them the luxury of time, name and shaming may well encourage more of them to pull their fingers out and get on with it. I'd imagine quite a large percentage of that 3000 people would never amount to anything if they remained anonymous with no timescale to work to.
A coward with time could pluck up the courage. A coward under pressure would fold. If someone attacks under pressure they have no time to plan.
I've been thinking about it for some time. Bounced it off a few people, had criticism, and praise, still convinced it's better than accepting British children will be killed again in the near future.
I'd love to know the kinds of people you 'bounced this idea off'.
Stop looking for easy answers where there aren't any. This is going to take years to resolve. It's going to need courage, patience and determination.
Silly ideas like yours would just make the problem a 100 times worse
So why didn't they do it last night?. Should we give them time to be more convinced that it's what their god wants them to do?
Can you give me an example of a reformed jihaddist?
JTaylor, these days he's a Christian but the mods won't let him change his user name (what did you think the J stood for) as they don't want him being able to hide.
JTaylor, these days he's a Christian but the mods won't let him change his user name (what did you think the J stood for) as they don't want him being able to hide.
Sorry? He planned to kill innocent British people?.
As a Muslim I'd like to say once again, these types of terrorist acts make me feel physically sick. I pray for a swift recovery for those injured.
I don't post much, but would like to say I agree with 90% of what Kwik says. A tougher stance needed to be taken years ago.
If I had any suspicions about anyone being a terrorist or have those kinds of inclinations, I'm certain I would report report them.