Thanks. It's in its early stages at the moment lol.
Perhaps permanent house arrest with loss of anonymity when terms aren't complied with. At least it's an idea. Better than shrugging shoulders and hoping for the best.

 

Indeed and contrary to popular belief most of the really good intel on suspects comes from within the Muslim community.

 

No clearly not, but you seem to be

 

Sources?.

 

Can you just clarify, for the record, what exactly it is with which you agree?

 

Obviously not, otherwise I wouldn't be calling for their right to anonymity to be taken.

 

What is?! Your plan?! This is patently ridiculous!

 

Alan Johnson (former Home Secretary) hes probably in a better position to know than you.

 

But then you'd said it would be ok because they're protected.

ffs, do yourself a favour and read what you post

 

No it's not, it's a wicked idea. Pure and simply because he's leaving himself open to being locked up/named and shamed for harbouring extremist views.

 

Labour lol. Can you provide details of the information given and the convictions it led to?.
How much embellishment in the name of 'peace' do you think was added to any statement he may have made?.

 

I can't wait for Abbas to make clear that with which he agrees: The thoughtcrime list being made public and the people on the list then being protected by the police? Genius. Quite why the authorities haven't immediately adopted Kwik's plan is beyond me.

 

This is great. Give me a load of questions that I can't possibly answer so you can make your view credible. It's a good tactic.

It's certainly concerning that you know more about what's going on than a former Home Sec.

 

You said the Muslim community give lots of information. That information, if of any use would have been used to arrest and charge. Those providing information, or being witnesses would have stood up in court to help convict.
So again, please give indications of the information that was passed forward and the convictions that the information led to.

The fact you cant should speak volumes to you.

 

Witnesses?

I give up

 

Because people like you would wet your knickers and demand we respect any potential terrorists human rights.

 

I'm a lurker and have read lots of his posts in the past and agree with the sentiment. Not specifically the naming and shaming. I'd prefer the Saudi method, execution. I haven't got a real workable solution but want tougher action.
I'm surprised how much hate Kwik gets, he has said many times he has no problem with Muslims in general, just the extreme ones.

 

Ok. So it looks like this:

 

Quite simply Martin you made a statement and can't back it up. You can't back it up because the information isn't there.
Still, without evidence to support your theory you will believe what you want to believe.

Without evidence it's just a rumour. Started by a left wing politician of all people lol, and we all know how trustworthy politicians are.

 

So you advocate execution for thoughtcrime?

 

I don't think he gets hate, in my case it's just bewilderment.

 

You either respect everyone's human rights or no ones. You can't pick and choose based on who you do/don't like.

 

Quite.

 

It's not my theory. It's what a former Home Secretary went on the record with.

It's not me who has to prove anything, you're the one arguing with it.

 

Again thanks. I have a differing opinion, and bigots generally hate a different opinion. Look at how this thread has 'woken up' with my introduction, you can almost feel them foaming at the mouth.
It's a general thought that I'm racist, despite my constant distaste at the extreme right wing. But then when has facts mattered to bigots.

 

Yes, terrorists and peados. Why waste money on rehabilitation, I'd rather use that money on people who deserve it.

 

Beheading?

 

Keep telling yourself that

 

Out of interest, what is your branch of Islam? I'll hazard a guess at Shia?

 

Wrong team. Sunni, Salafist.