Possible second attack..
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04 June 2017, 12:28 AM
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Something! 3 attacks in like 6 weeks now. Surely England must do more to prevent attacks. I know it can't be easy but raising money, having a bee tattoo isnt really helping
04 June 2017, 12:42 AM
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The only way forward is for communities to grass these idiots up.
I don't buy the whole 'we didn't see it coming' crap. Everyone who lives in a town or village or community know who the dodgy characters are.
When someone stops turning up for football or doing things out of the ordinary, hanging out with new strange people, how can friends and family not notice.
I don't buy the whole 'we didn't see it coming' crap. Everyone who lives in a town or village or community know who the dodgy characters are.
When someone stops turning up for football or doing things out of the ordinary, hanging out with new strange people, how can friends and family not notice.
04 June 2017, 12:50 AM
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The only way forward is for communities to grass these idiots up.
I don't buy the whole 'we didn't see it coming' crap. Everyone who lives in a town or village or community know who the dodgy characters are.
When someone stops turning up for football or doing things out of the ordinary, hanging out with new strange people, how can friends and family not notice.
I don't buy the whole 'we didn't see it coming' crap. Everyone who lives in a town or village or community know who the dodgy characters are.
When someone stops turning up for football or doing things out of the ordinary, hanging out with new strange people, how can friends and family not notice.
There's really only so much the security services can do.
Let's assume that you wanted to become a terrorist.
If you don't search for stupid **** on the youtube (or wherever these people spread videos), and don't talk to other potential terrorists over the Internet, but rather come up with something as a small group of people, there is *nothing* apart from someone grassing you up that will get you caught.
04 June 2017, 01:00 AM
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Woke with a start and instinctively checked my phone. Here we are. Don't engage in knee-jerk reactions, lads, there's no advantage and it simply plays in to the hands of the enemy. Stay calm and know that there are people across the cultures who are sickened by what's going on. Praying for the victims and the emergency services.
04 June 2017, 01:11 AM
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It seems a lot of these extremists are thick people with little or no future who have been radicalised in prison by sick minded individuals with a perverted view of Islam.
They have no purpose in life then all of a sudden they are a labourer to God.
Separating extremist inmates would be a wise move imo. Or put them in a mental institution.
The ones walking the streets are more difficult.
They have no purpose in life then all of a sudden they are a labourer to God.
Separating extremist inmates would be a wise move imo. Or put them in a mental institution.
The ones walking the streets are more difficult.
04 June 2017, 01:25 AM
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Copy of my post on the Manchester thread fwiw
"Too many could-well-become-terrorists making old Blighty unsafe. Strong circumstantial evidence but nothing to stand up in court.
So we say to them "We can't risk your freedom so we'll give you a choice. We'll pay you to go home (where your parents were born) and you cannot return or we will lock you up in UK until we are 110% sure you will behave". This would apply to British citizens as well. Yes mistakes will be made, tough.
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"Too many could-well-become-terrorists making old Blighty unsafe. Strong circumstantial evidence but nothing to stand up in court.
So we say to them "We can't risk your freedom so we'll give you a choice. We'll pay you to go home (where your parents were born) and you cannot return or we will lock you up in UK until we are 110% sure you will behave". This would apply to British citizens as well. Yes mistakes will be made, tough.
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04 June 2017, 01:52 AM
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I think we should all go to 'The Winchester' and wait for it all to blow over!
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVQboz4XAAAo7Ks.jpg
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVQboz4XAAAo7Ks.jpg
04 June 2017, 08:44 AM
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They should deport all people that are under the so called WATCH or a threat or lock them up in a mental asylum till they are cured how many more need to die FFS?
Do you think they give a toss who they kill or what race??
God forbid If one of your own relations had been blown up or stabbed or driven over in Manchester or London would your views be the same??
Not bout muzzies bro this is going beyond a joke to be honest nothing but brain washed numpties spineless cowards in my opinion don't see them going into Scotland Yard blowing it up do you....
RIP to all lives lost....
04 June 2017, 10:01 AM
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Woke with a start and instinctively checked my phone. Here we are. Don't engage in knee-jerk reactions, lads, there's no advantage and it simply plays in to the hands of the enemy. Stay calm and know that there are people across the cultures who are sickened by what's going on. Praying for the victims and the emergency services.
04 June 2017, 10:07 AM
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Yep, one of them has posted already, spouting the usual naive liberal BS 
The others are probably still eating their breakfast while reading in the Guardian.Wouldn't be surprised if they consider this 'fake news' or a 'false flag'. After the Manchester suicide bombing a couple of weeks ago CNN had one of their pundits trying to suggest it could've been a 'right wing extremist' trying to make out it was IS.
The others are probably still eating their breakfast while reading in the Guardian.Wouldn't be surprised if they consider this 'fake news' or a 'false flag'. After the Manchester suicide bombing a couple of weeks ago CNN had one of their pundits trying to suggest it could've been a 'right wing extremist' trying to make out it was IS.
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04 June 2017, 10:11 AM
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Has to be said though, looks like a great response from emergency services and armed police. No messing around, 2 of the terrorists shot and killed.
Must be a very tough job operating under those circumstances when the situation is totally unclear and you've got people all over the place screaming and running.
Must be a very tough job operating under those circumstances when the situation is totally unclear and you've got people all over the place screaming and running.
04 June 2017, 10:28 AM
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Like it is everyday in Mosul etc then . And don't be ridiculous nobody would be trying say this is fake news
How you combat this is a lot more difficult
Condolences to fallen , even girlfriends daughter in aus was on phone this morning cos its all over news there
How you combat this is a lot more difficult
Condolences to fallen , even girlfriends daughter in aus was on phone this morning cos its all over news there
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04 June 2017, 10:45 AM
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Just for the record, Joz, I think this has everything to do with religion, but that's a bit like blaming politics for the tens of millions murdered at the hands of National Socialism and Communism during the 20th Century. I think we have to be more specific. The religion here is Islam and more accurately Sunni Islam. To break that down further the perpetrators were almost certainly Salafist and within that branch we are dealing with Jihadi Salafists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism
I'm a little disappointed you didn't engage your brain on this one, Joz.
Here's me discussing it 7 years ago:
https://www.scoobynet.com/863727-swe...ml#post9763961
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism
I'm a little disappointed you didn't engage your brain on this one, Joz.
Here's me discussing it 7 years ago:
https://www.scoobynet.com/863727-swe...ml#post9763961
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04 June 2017, 11:00 AM
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7 dead and 48 injured 
My thoughts go out to the families and friends
PM has announced that the general election will go ahead on Thursday (no disrespect I think she's right)
If you were on the fence regarding how to vote I think anyone who votes for Corbyn and his open door policies wants their head examined
Sad times
My thoughts go out to the families and friends
PM has announced that the general election will go ahead on Thursday (no disrespect I think she's right)
If you were on the fence regarding how to vote I think anyone who votes for Corbyn and his open door policies wants their head examined
Sad times