So 50/50 then?

Not bad odds right there

How much is a forged 2.5 rebuild then? Isn't the 2.5 after being forged better than the 2.0 anyway?

 

Nothing wrong with the standard pistons if you keep power within its limits

 

errr the ringlands are part of the piston, you're obviously a sheep and just believe what you read online as you didn't know that

HG, yea was a problem on earlier cars pre 2014, not heard of any new models failing due to that though.

 

yea it should fail straight off the forecourt right? i read it on the internet.

 

probably, get yourself down to the clinic i hear they do a reliable 500bhp conversion for a bargain price!

 

Oi, it's easy to go off people you know.

Rumbled...

I don't really care about cars these days tbh view them more as a tool to do the job of getting me from A to B... and I like to do it as cheaply as possible... I was always more interested in bikes, but the birth of my son put payed to that chapter in my life.

Newer cars interest me even less... hence going retro as they're the only things that make me feel some enthusiasm towards owning... I really wanted an Escort MK1 but couldn't find one with an engine above 1.1... I'd love a Beetle but just not practical enough for me right now... and parts for both are hard to come by, which is how I ended up going for the Golfs.

As for the Honda, I didn't like them either until I saw one in the flesh, I will admit to not having noticed the tail pipes though.

 

 

Lol

 

theres been at least 3 up at clinic alone. same old crappy engine

 

User error, bad map, wrong fuel

If you haven't realised yet, I don't care Tidgy, that's what warranty is for and buying any new car these days is a leap of faith, look at the focus rs issues as an example.

 

Ford never ever made a reliable car

 

well one minute your saying you dont know of any, despite me mentioning it to you before, make up your mind lol

 

No i didn't, of course i've heard of some, we've discussed this before haven't we, one of them we know of was running on 97

 

I'd have to say you're wrong there, I've had a Capri, Cortina, 3 XR2's, 4 Escourt's various guises and a couple of Sierra's, only one that gave me any trouble was the Mk4 Cortina and that's because some unscrupulous b@$tard took advantage of my trusting nature and I was a green 18yr old kid, he palmed me off with a lemon... that and one of my girlfriends had an Escort that snapped the cambelt... but again dodgy car dealer said he changed it and didn't.

Loads of mates back then had fords too with no problems... BMW's on the other hand were a nightmare for my mates that loved them... and I don't see that anything much has changed... which is a shame really as I've always fancied one, but too frightened to take the plunge for fear of the repair bills.

I think most modern cars are a nightmare to own and the internet is littered with stories for just about every manufacturer...

which is why I stuck the Mrs in a brand new car on PCP with manufacturers warranty... and I own a car that I can fix with a hammer, screwdriver, gaffer tape and a few spanners... again partly due to my location... which is the middle of nowhere with the nearest motorbits shop being 15 miles away and the nearest dealership (merc) is around 20 miles away and a couple of days wait for any parts... also I don't fancy a 30 mile hike and a £1k bill every time something goes wrong with my car.

 

Have you driven a current spec STI? I wouldn't hold your breathe for the MY18 but if we get it, we might be able to get those sweet 6 pots.

It really is a nice car. My local dealer falls over themselves to be helpful and the whole buying experience has been faultless.

The car doesn't deserve the grief it gets IMO. There's enough evidence to demonstrate it doesn't show itself up within it's current peer-group. As I've said, it's a shame that a forum that is supposed to for Subaru fans has very little love for the current model - likewise, as I've said, the US forums are jam packed with fans - NASIOC or whatever it's called is like this place in the late 90s.

I drive my car with a degree of mechanical sympathy - spends 99% of it's time in I mode. If it goes, which will be a shock I'll admit, I'll just get it forged and carry on.

I think a well built 2.5 would be a better option than 2.0 anyway.

 

Indeed it is a shame, I've saw a few of the new cars going about and they look great, all the hate on a Subaru fan site isn't going to do the brand much good.

 

not driven one yet, will wait until ive moved into my new house and then start test driving a few cars to see what takes my fancy,i do love the look of the new wrx sti and i really miss the burble so wrx sti is top of my list,if i did get one i would have a decent map put on it via thwaites in warwick and take it from there and if it does fail then forge it

loving a few cars at the minute.....


wrx sti
audi rs5
jaguar xfr
new civic type r
bmw m5
bmw x5m

 

True, but there is a lot of bitterness (quite rightly) from owners and other people over the 2008 hatch feckups and the fact that subaru never officially owned up to the terrible maps that they put on the cars causing a lot of them to det and go pop. Also there were tolerance issues with the HG's and the bolts. As a result of that bitterness and disbelief there are also the sheep who just follow the bitter ones Mind you this happens on any net forum where there's been issues with a model in the past. Shame really. Probably one of the reasons subaru aren't that bothered about selling the latest spec models to the UK anymore.

 

You'll need a new exhaust/back box too, they are very quiet standard.

 

thats another issue.........are there any exhausts for it that use the remote control flap to you can make it sound quiet/loud at your own pleasure? i leave for work @ 3am so really dont wanna start upsetting my new neighbours

 

just regarding the pistons etc, is there any info on the uprated parts subaru have used or any proof? has anybody took one of the engines apart yet?

 

Same pistons. Just keep it to 350 it'll be fine with a proper map from a reputable tuner, as i've said mines approaching 16K, daily driver, mapped to 330/345 and i dont fucking hang about. if you want more then you'll need to forge it. You will find its too slow stock. Just a map is enough really for road use to release more torque.

 

im sure somebody said on here that they have revised pistons

 

Exhausts, don't think there are any with a remote flap, you could get a custom one made of course, will cost a bomb, but i rate the invidia systems, not too loud on idle, but decent on WOT.

 

No they don't. The tolerances and how they are put together has been improved though and a map that won't detonate it from stock of course only using 98/99 fuel.

 

ok buddy thanks for the info

 

I could be wrong but I think a guy on here and overclockers has an exhaust with flaps. Scoobydoo69 I think but might be wrong.

As for sound it's quieter inside than out to me. Has a nice burble but yeah, a little louder would be cool. As for speed, to me it's fast enough for now. I don't use sport plus that often so I guess I drive like a girl I just like having the car. I alternate it with an 03 mini Cooper so it's that bit more special when I get the Scooby out

 

Im thinking of getting a custom axle back made up to get the burble sorted. Axle backs are quite popular with the americans and Im tempted to have a few made up with different configurations to test.

So from Y-pipe back the standard back boxes are very large and appear to be heavily silenced - they sound alright from outside under revs but are very civilised at idle rpms. Two options I am considering are straight pipes to quad tips as a 'muffler delete' but Im not convinced they wont drone something awful at motorway speeds, so I might also get some lightly resonated ones which will be much smaller than the standard units but will hopefully have headroom for tuning the sound and resonant frequencies to eliminate drone.

Other upsides is that they'll probably come in a lot cheaper than any of the premades Ive seen and being Y-pipe back only I should avoid the need to remap.

 

Probably worth reading through before you commence....

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...rformance.html

 

Thanks for that. I was concerned about the potential volume, but its difficult to get a good idea from youtube as they always seem to be paired with a decat or midpipe or something. I will be completely standard apart from backbox replacement, hopefully.

A lot of the reason I was going to go custom was to just try out a few setups to figure out the sweet spot without spending £700+.