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26 March 2017, 04:28 PM
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If I didn't believe in the Holy Trinity, I wouldn't be a Christian. As a Christian it necessarily follows that I will consider Islam a false religion and Mohammad a false prophet. It's not arrogance, it's conviction. Those who disagree with me should strongly consider declaring the Shahada.
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.
It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.
I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".
A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.
I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.
Cheers
Steve
26 March 2017, 06:01 PM
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Hi,
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.
It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.
I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".
A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.
I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.
Cheers
Steve
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.
It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.
I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".
A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.
I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.
Cheers
Steve
Does that include Muslim, or nothing?
26 March 2017, 07:27 PM
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Hi,
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.
It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.
I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".
A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.
I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.
Cheers
Steve
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.
It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.
I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".
A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.
I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.
Cheers
Steve
26 March 2017, 08:29 PM
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26 March 2017, 08:45 PM
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26 March 2017, 09:06 PM
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27 March 2017, 12:41 AM
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Jolly good, but is your liberal, pluralistic, relativist attitude given a mandate in the Bible? Do you believe in the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and that he is the Way, the Truth and the Life? You see, as noble and as right-on as I'm sure you think your Hindu - Christian - Muslim smorgasbord is, I'm unaware of anything in the Bible that says followers should be offering their offspring (or indeed anyone) alternative paths to salvation. In fact, the Bible says there aren't any and that we can know the Father only through Jesus Christ.
27 March 2017, 04:19 AM
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Jolly good, but is your liberal, pluralistic, relativist attitude given a mandate in the Bible? Do you believe in the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and that he is the Way, the Truth and the Life? You see, as noble and as right-on as I'm sure you think your Hindu - Christian - Muslim smorgasbord is, I'm unaware of anything in the Bible that says followers should be offering their offspring (or indeed anyone) alternative paths to salvation. In fact, the Bible says there aren't any and that we can know the Father only through Jesus Christ.
Out of interest, this is an article from today's local paper about our local Catholic Church in Dubai - its celebrating golden anniversary this year:-
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society...ilee-1.2000569
If you can be bothered to read the article - it will show you two key things.
One is tolerance ( as mentioned in a previous post) and secondly that this church gets over 80,000 people per week to its masses (thriving Christian community in a Muslim country).
27 March 2017, 04:56 AM
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Are you telling me this or preaching me this?
Out of interest, this is an article from today's local paper about our local Catholic Church in Dubai - its celebrating golden anniversary this year:-
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society...ilee-1.2000569
If you can be bothered to read the article - it will show you two key things.
One is tolerance ( as mentioned in a previous post) and secondly that this church gets over 80,000 people per week to its masses (thriving Christian community in a Muslim country).
Out of interest, this is an article from today's local paper about our local Catholic Church in Dubai - its celebrating golden anniversary this year:-
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society...ilee-1.2000569
If you can be bothered to read the article - it will show you two key things.
One is tolerance ( as mentioned in a previous post) and secondly that this church gets over 80,000 people per week to its masses (thriving Christian community in a Muslim country).
27 March 2017, 07:06 AM
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Jolly good, but is your liberal, pluralistic, relativist attitude given a mandate in the Bible? Do you believe in the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and that he is the Way, the Truth and the Life? You see, as noble and as right-on as I'm sure you think your Hindu - Christian - Muslim smorgasbord is, I'm unaware of anything in the Bible that says followers should be offering their offspring (or indeed anyone) alternative paths to salvation. In fact, the Bible says there aren't any and that we can know the Father only through Jesus Christ.
Your emphasis is on the absolute.... you're not about love peace and turning the other cheek ... you want to... 'smite thy enemy'.... you're as bonkers as they are.
27 March 2017, 07:20 AM
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I get the whole tolerance thing, it's all very postmodern and trendy, but loving your neighbour and family and, indeed, your enemy, often involves being unpopular. Pick up your cross and give them the Truth, cause offence and stand firm. Your God demands it and I'm afraid the alternative is to apostatise.
27 March 2017, 07:27 AM
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You're right that I'm an absolutist; how can a Christian be anything else? Relativism is the preserve of the religiously tolerant atheist.
27 March 2017, 07:27 AM
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Well don't - go and preach to somebody else who might be weaker in the mind and believe your assertions.
27 March 2017, 07:31 AM
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27 March 2017, 07:45 AM
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All this worshiping supreme beings and ideology is for people that have a void in their lives... I'd be inclined to suggest they get out a little more and do something to occupy their minds and not dwell so much on the 'mysteries of the universe' and enjoy what little time they have on this planet.
27 March 2017, 09:38 AM
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27 March 2017, 09:48 AM
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I am aware that I'm not the Son of God, Neil. I've not gone all David Icke. My point is that Jesus said (and says) that He is the only means of salvation. Steve has adopted a relativist position and I, out of love, am attempting to illustrate why the position is not concordant with verse 15 of the chapter turned up. Mark 16:15 is another of the Lord's commands. I don't pretend to fulfil all of His commandments for the reason stated in the opening sentence of this post, but I do confess my numerous short comings - I am very conscious of them.
27 March 2017, 08:13 PM
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I am aware that I'm not the Son of God, Neil. I've not gone all David Icke. My point is that Jesus said (and says) that He is the only means of salvation. Steve has adopted a relativist position and I, out of love, am attempting to illustrate why the position is not concordant with verse 15 of the chapter turned up. Mark 16:15 is another of the Lord's commands. I don't pretend to fulfil all of His commandments for the reason stated in the opening sentence of this post, but I do confess my numerous short comings - I am very conscious of them.
One of your Lord's greatest commandments was: 'Thou shalt love thy neighbour like thyself'. I see no hint of that love being extended to 'thy neighbours' anywhere in your posts. You pay no more than lip service to the principle but you fall massively short in the execution.
27 March 2017, 08:35 PM
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all religous types are the same arrogrant and self centered believing its their way or the highway etc, my mother inlaw is a witness and they are so arrogant they call theirs the TRUTH therfore implying all other religeon is wrong and untruthfull bit like the devout christians and muslims, believers in adult fairytales the lot of them want their heads read 
28 March 2017, 01:42 PM
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I am aware that I'm not the Son of God, Neil. I've not gone all David Icke. My point is that Jesus said (and says) that He is the only means of salvation. Steve has adopted a relativist position and I, out of love, am attempting to illustrate why the position is not concordant with verse 15 of the chapter turned up. Mark 16:15 is another of the Lord's commands.
I don't pretend to fulfil all of His commandments for the reason stated in the opening sentence of this post, but I do confess my numerous short comings - I am very conscious of them.