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Old 28 March 2017, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Out of love?? LOL! Out of your sheer arrogance, more like! You think you are God's gift with your blinding knowledge!




Well, then. Stop picking faults in others' understanding and liberal following with your same old, pest style challenging questioning. Just because you 'confess' to some bull£h1t, others don't have to. If others bear liberal thinking on Islam and their Christian belief, as opposed to yours, live and let live, what's the harm in that?? On no! You can't do that! How would you get the 'lone actor' attention and exposure on the threads like this, if you didn't pick faults in others' understanding and following, with your pest like questioning? James Taylor becomes the centre of attraction as a lone actor! As long as this target is being achieved, that's job being done jolly well for you, isn't it? As hodgy says, other side of the same coin.
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Just shows you the power of social conditioning and propaganda, Also the level of mis-direction being perpetrated from the media and other sources.

So it would seem Islam IS the religion of peace.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Just shows you the power of social conditioning and propaganda, Also the level of mis-direction being perpetrated from the media and other sources.

So it would seem Islam IS the religion of peace.
It's an idiotic experiment, for a start the bible quotes are Old Testament, and Islam being the final revelation doesn't reject them. And anyway, the idea that a religion is just ethereal lines of text floating around is asinine.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Out of love?? LOL! Out of your sheer arrogance, more like! You think you are God's gift with your blinding knowledge!




Well, then. Stop picking faults in others' understanding and liberal following with your same old, pest style challenging questioning. Just because you 'confess' to some bull£h1t, others don't have to. If others bear liberal thinking on Islam and their Christian belief, as opposed to yours, live and let live, what's the harm in that?? On no! You can't do that! How would you get the 'lone actor' attention and exposure on the threads like this, if you didn't pick faults in others' understanding and following, with your pest like questioning? James Taylor becomes the centre of attraction as a lone actor! As long as this target is being achieved, that's job being done jolly well for you, isn't it? As hodgy says, other side of the same coin.



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Wow so much hate.....



After reading all 8 pages I'm honestly thinking of that film by Jackie chan "WHO AM I" it has a sick evo in it wish I had one now honestly....
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The media has a lot to answer for. The whole #Together bull**** that did the rounds would be laughable if it wasn't disturbingly inaccurate. Share the **** out of #together, change the colours of your profile picture, say we won't be beaten, sit back and wait for the next inevitable attack and repeat.
Meanwhile the liberal zombies bury their heads further in the sand and become more and more immune to fact, the obvious and continue to ignore opinions that differ to their own. Further driven by the mainstream media.
What people don't seem to understand is that the immediate shutting down of any real debate, any intelligent conversation, the immediate calls of racism, the attack on the history of the west over the middle east and the immediate aggressive defence of the muslim community just pushes the unsure into the arms of the far right.
Figures like Tommy Robinson gain air time and followers and we grow further and further apart.

For me the problem lies in Martyrs Avenue in Langley Green in my hometown of Crawley. A long time ago a resident of Martyrs Avenue sexually assaulted a girl my wife went to school with. From this girls description of his van several members of the community put his name forward and he was convicted. He later was released and murdered Sarah Payne. The same community immediately pointed the finger at him and the police focused on him. His flat became a target for the community trying to get their hands on him so he moved back into his Dad's in Martyrs Avenue where he was further harassed. Obviously he was eventually convicted.
Without that community he would have never been convicted in the first instance, wouldn't have been known to the police and may have gone on to kill others.

Fast forward several years and in the very same house a chap resided, that was until he decided to drive a lorry full of explosives into a Syrian prison. This is a few hundred yards from the local shops where a bomb factory was uncovered a few years previous. A few hundred yards from that is a road named Stagelands, where the convicted Syrian murderer recently hit a Crawley police officer. And low and behold this chap who attacked Westminster last week also resided in Crawley in 2006 and Crawley police had arrested him at one point.

The big difference is community. Whereas the predominately white English community ousted a peadophile, the muslim community has done nothing in the occasions above.
This creates distrust. And if you distrust muslims and see the horrors of these cowardly attacks that trust can turn to fear and anger and you are ripe for the picking for Britains first or Tommy Robinson. Just saying this I'm sure will anger the normal aggressive, angry members that ban themselves every 5 minutes because they can't control their tempers and I'm sure I'll be hit with the R word for daring to point out the obvious.

Whilst not turning in those prepared to kill innocents the muslim community are making an enemy of themselves. When surveys suggest 2/3 muslims would not turn in a fellow muslim they believe were preparing a terrorist attack it becomes a fairly scary situation.

Whilst the liberals firstly deny this to be the truth, then ignore it, the problem will not go away.
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Nice to see you back again Kwik.

I agree with the first part of what you say but then you add the last bit and basically show yourself to be a victim of the media in the second part... exhibiting some intresting brand of twisted logic.

Not too sure how anyone could "offer up" a suspect such as the guy that's done this...

This act is somewhat like the role Micheal Douglas played in falling down, the guy seems as though something just went POP in his head... how do we foresee that in a person... half the people on here are bonkers, doesn't mean they're going to have a mental in a car and mow down a load of people, they're just a normal cross section of society.
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to be fair kwik is right to a point, we do grass up kid fiddlers etc
the question is would you grass up a mate who you know to be a member of combat 18 for example, probably not based on the thought process that plod allready know about him, and this is part of the muslim problem they thing plod know everything about them because they are under so much scrutiny
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Nothing to do with the media. 99% of the media is liberal bull****, the BBC, itv, every comedian, every pundit and every politician is a broken record.
Anybody seen to be 'liking' right wing media is immediately a racist thug, and it's full of the same edited one sided bull**** as the left.
You cant foresee a lone nut job, but they are never alone unlike Roy Whiting. There are always several other arrests around the country shortly after attacks. Other people are involved. So you are talking about several communities.
The left view is that these several communities had no idea. In fact, in my town alone the community had no idea several times when it came to Muslim extremists. The same town that knew about the lone wolf.
The right wing view is that the whole community knew and are glad.
The truth is there somewhere. But.its certainly not the sweetness and light the left paints.
The deeper in the sand the liberals bury their heads, the more power they give to the right.
And although quieter the right, or the alt right is the majority.
Old 29 March 2017, 06:41 AM
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Just to reiterate, I did agree with the first part of what was written.

I'll add that knowing the Police, they just went and arrested anyone that was in his more recent call list history which doesn't make them an accomplice... which again was bourn out by the fact that all of those arrested were later released... a couple on bail... no doubt for some unrelated offence like a bag of weed, parking tickets or something... but that's not interesting so we don't get to hear about it.

Thankfully these people don't live in your town so the vigilante's won't be round giving them a hard time simply for knowing somebody that had a mental.

You seem to be quite fixated on the liberal left... as though all the evils in the world should be laid at their feet... but yet again we see another divide and conquer technique in operation here... while we are all squabbling amongst ourselves those in control continue to maintain the status quo... make more money and reduce our freedoms, you're effectively playing right into their hands.
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The liberal left is much larger than the 'extreme' right. There is no 'extreme' left apparently. Did the BBC or ITV show the anti violence, anti hate, anti trump brigade when they were mob handed and kicking the **** out of trump supporters or setting fire to college campuses? No.
And those they did, sites like libtards or Milo were either taken down, banned by left wing social media or ousted as being 'pro peadophile'.
The extreme left exists, but the media and I imagine someone like yourself sent their very existence.
If the left actually took on board opinions from the right and listened to facts then they might learn something rather than the fingers in the ears nature of their existence. And of course vice versa.

There is is no lone wolf terrorist. I think you need to read up on the attacks, those involved and those that were involved with the attackers in the lead up. Of course they will deny any knowledge of any impending attack, or they'd be in prison.
Did the community deny any knowledge of Roy Whiting, no they ousted him because they hated what he did.
Whilst people like yourself deny others were involved and others agree with these attacks then there will be no insistence on ousting any future attackers and no demand for the Muslim community to shift out any trouble makers.
9/10 the police are aware of attackers, just as they were aware of whiting. So how were the Muslim communities not aware time and time again. Head in the sand ditch. Wake up from the media brainwashing.
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Kwik youd have enjoyed living in East Berlin !
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You've still got that angry English man flavour running through your posts, the only place you can get that is mass media mis-direction and considering you're the one watching the BBC etc it comes as no surprise.

My "mass media" intake consists of re-runs of Charlie Sheene in Two and a half men, and the 2011 series of Deadliest catch so unless there's some sort of secret message in either of those series I think you might be barking up the wrong tree.

Beyond that everything else I look at is generally posted on here these days. I've not even read the full story about this thread just snippets of the links posted.

I'm actually far from being a Liberal, I'd have kids caned in schools, Borstals like North sea camp for young offenders, bring back hanging not just the death penalty, I'd want to see the fook3r$ hanged... 3 strike rule, public floggings and a whole host of draconian punishments... you'd soon see the crime rates fall... make people sweep the streets, clean toilets, pick vegies for their dole money... again unemployment would tumble... major clamp down on tax evasion... and no leaving the country to escape it either or moving your business or money offshore, and forget appeals in the courts for years with fancy lawers, pay or have all your assets frozen and stuff sold if you don't cough up, that will sort the ever increasing rich / poor divide and get the rich to cough up their fair share of the tax burden.

And way more besides.


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Originally Posted by Kwik
The liberal left is much larger than the 'extreme' right. There is no 'extreme' left apparently. Did the BBC or ITV show the anti violence, anti hate, anti trump brigade when they were mob handed and kicking the **** out of trump supporters or setting fire to college campuses? No.
And those they did, sites like libtards or Milo were either taken down, banned by left wing social media or ousted as being 'pro peadophile'.
The extreme left exists, but the media and I imagine someone like yourself sent their very existence.
If the left actually took on board opinions from the right and listened to facts then they might learn something rather than the fingers in the ears nature of their existence. And of course vice versa.

There is is no lone wolf terrorist. I think you need to read up on the attacks, those involved and those that were involved with the attackers in the lead up. Of course they will deny any knowledge of any impending attack, or they'd be in prison.
Did the community deny any knowledge of Roy Whiting, no they ousted him because they hated what he did.
Whilst people like yourself deny others were involved and others agree with these attacks then there will be no insistence on ousting any future attackers and no demand for the Muslim community to shift out any trouble makers.
9/10 the police are aware of attackers, just as they were aware of whiting. So how were the Muslim communities not aware time and time again. Head in the sand ditch. Wake up from the media brainwashing.

Not sure even his own family knew what he was about to do.


I assume you have some evidence that he wasn't working alone?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Not sure even his own family knew what he was about to do.


I assume you have some evidence that he wasn't working alone?
Well if you did your own research then you'd see there was a survey conducted recently which would suggest 2 out of 3 muslims wouldn't contact authorities if they knew of someone plotting a terrorist attack.
Surveys are inaccurate, it was only conducted of 1000 people. I'm not sure I'd trust the source either. But, of those 1000 how many said they would but in truth wouldn't. It could be said that it's a much larger figure.

There red is also no evidence to support that his own family didn't know anything either. There was no 'evidence' that the Syrian suicide bomber from Crawley was about to blow himself up. But his brother attended all the same meetings within Crawley and his friend went to Syria with him and had the last message stating there was 'still more to do'.

What is being suggested here and believed by the brainwashed liberals (and scoobynet is awash with them) is that the white community are able to determine a 'wrong un' but the Muslims aren't. Not just once, but time and time again.

Why not show me some evidence of planned attacks
being foiled by the Muslim community?
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Ditch, I read from both sides. It's important to sit and laugh at the bbc's idea of news and watch tommy Robinson through your fingers.
If i sat on the right I wouldn't be friends with a lot of EU migrants, I certainly wouldn't be organising nights out in Brighton of all places with them. I wouldn't be sat next to a Muslim day after day and putting them forward for promotion.
Well done though, you proved my point that a liberal thinks anyone non liberal MUST be on the right.
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lol , all those trump supporters who believed he was their saviour

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...cid=spartanntp
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Ditch, I read from both sides. It's important to sit and laugh at the bbc's idea of news and watch tommy Robinson through your fingers.
If i sat on the right I wouldn't be friends with a lot of EU migrants, I certainly wouldn't be organising nights out in Brighton of all places with them. I wouldn't be sat next to a Muslim day after day and putting them forward for promotion.
Well done though, you proved my point that a liberal thinks anyone non liberal MUST be on the right.
I never said you were / are on the right of anything, what I did say is that you have the angry English man flavour running through you... big difference to calling you a Far Right supporter.

Although I'm not sure what your position is beyond trying to blame the WHOLE Muslim community for the acts of a few... and if that isn't a somewhat Right of centre point of view i don't know what is.

By the same token we could suggest that the white British community is supporting the murder of thousands of Muslims across the globe... oh wait...
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I never said you were / are on the right of anything, what I did say is that you have the angry English man flavour running through you... big difference to calling you a Far Right supporter.

Although I'm not sure what your position is beyond trying to blame the WHOLE Muslim community for the acts of a few... and if that isn't a somewhat Right of centre point of view i don't know what is.

By the same token we could suggest that the white British community is supporting the murder of thousands of Muslims across the globe... oh wait...
Lol, you'll have to point me to where I said 'the whole' Muslim community were to blame.
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Originally Posted by dpb
lol , all those trump supporters who believed he was their saviour

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...cid=spartanntp
Lol, this would be a left wing POV.
Try looking at the pro trump rallies over the last few days and the violent interference from the anti voilent left.
Are you aware of the whole fake news debacle over in the US at the moment?.
Dont believe everything you read. Go by what you know, and you know the US voted for trump.

Im writing this on the edge of Langley green. I drive through it on my way home. No media outlet will tell me what Langley green is like and how it has changed over the last 30 years.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ae33d180eb84


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https://youtu.be/uGRFEiLBZCE
https://youtu.be/xF-zqzu04u0

https://youtu.be/ipJl3y_z6aY

30 seconds on YouTube. Open your mind.
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The Pakistani community in Britain is militantly ethno and religious-centric and this is one of the problems, one reason for the scale of the paedophile gang abuse and the way they exclusively targeted white women from outside their clan.

Of course I'm not saying this militancy applies to every Pakistani Brit.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
https://youtu.be/uGRFEiLBZCE
https://youtu.be/xF-zqzu04u0

https://youtu.be/ipJl3y_z6aY

30 seconds on YouTube. Open your mind.


That's the best you've got . ?!


bizzare
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Originally Posted by dpb
That's the best you've got . ?!


bizzare
No, as I said 30 seconds on YouTube. But you're a liberal, why read what someone has actually said and take it on board?.
That'd be a first for a liberal pmsl.
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I'll say this again as it's obviously not getting through. Whether it's the way I'm tapping away on an iPhone at work with a dismal spell checker or the obvious ignorance and intolerance of the lefty snowflakes unable to grasp an opinion can differ from their own I'm not sure.

The truth is in in the middle. To say all Muslims were aware of the attacks before they happened would be an idiotic statement. But, and here is where the problem lies, it is as idiotic as saying that NOBODY else was involved. If nobody else is involved or capable then why are 3000 terror suspects currently being watched in the UK?

Racism is treating someone differently based on the colour of their skin, religion or ethnic background. Assuming all but one Muslim has extremist views is as racist as assuming ALL Muslims have extremist views. The whole 'it's only one' is damaging and indirectly will cause the next act of terrorism as much as the terrorist themselves.

Those that are brainwashed by the extreme left and think Trump really is this evil man are just as deluded and cretinous as britains first members.

We live in a society where an act of terrorism could have been prevented if the neighbours of the San Bernadino attackers didn't feel that they would be 'racist' for reporting their suspicious activity. And as long as the left sees this as acceptable then it will continue.

Society can can only change when people realise they were wrong. But I'm preaching to the same middle class liberal remain voters, who think they were right then, right about trump, right about Muslim extremism regardless of how many times they are proven wrong.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
The Pakistani community in Britain is militantly ethno and religious-centric and this is one of the problems, one reason for the scale of the paedophile gang abuse and the way they exclusively targeted white women from outside their clan.

Of course I'm not saying this militancy applies to every Pakistani Brit.
You best not say it applies to all of us, as you remember that didn't work out too well for you last time. Especially when I put your picture up and you cried like a b1tch to the admin
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Lol, you'll have to point me to where I said 'the whole' Muslim community were to blame.
Errm, your first post.

Honestly mate, you're one sick puppy.



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