See , it's the full on religious types cause the most damage

 

Hi,
I think tolerance is the key word here.
I am tolerant of other religions and the people that practice them - regardless of whether they match my beliefs.

It's the intolerance of others religions that seems to cause many of the problems we see in the world today.

I also don't go around criticising other religions and claiming that they are wrong and that my "god" is more real than their "god".

A radical Christian can cause as much trouble as a radical Muslim or a radical Hindu.

I am a Christian, my wife is a Hindu and I have many friends who are Muslims. We often have discussions about each other's religions - in order to better understand what makes people tick - not to try and outdo each other and make any claims as to why one religion is better than the other.
We also don't try to convert each other.
Our son (11 years old) has been brought up with both Christian and Hindu values and ceremonies and he visits both Churches and Hindu temples.
When he is 18 - he can choose which path he would like to follow.

Cheers
Steve

 

Does that include Muslim, or nothing?

 

At 18 - it will be totally his choice!

 

Is this position supported by the Bible?

 

Didn't realise Hinduism particularly had the scope for radicalisation.

 

The yanks are killing more of their own than terrorists again.

 

But Trumps ban on muslims entering the states will make 'Merica safe again

 

Is what position supported by the greatest piece of fiction ever written (.....by numerous authors, with numerous agendas)?

 

Perhaps Steve05wrx is just a cultural Christian, not a proper Christian, and doesn't understand Christianity?

 

If we were on the set of the old Top Gear and you were Jeremy or Hammond and I was James May - I would now be calling you a ****!

 

Jolly good, but is your liberal, pluralistic, relativist attitude given a mandate in the Bible? Do you believe in the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and that he is the Way, the Truth and the Life? You see, as noble and as right-on as I'm sure you think your Hindu - Christian - Muslim smorgasbord is, I'm unaware of anything in the Bible that says followers should be offering their offspring (or indeed anyone) alternative paths to salvation. In fact, the Bible says there aren't any and that we can know the Father only through Jesus Christ.

 

Right-on bro

 

Are you telling me this or preaching me this?

Out of interest, this is an article from today's local paper about our local Catholic Church in Dubai - its celebrating golden anniversary this year:-
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society...ilee-1.2000569

If you can be bothered to read the article - it will show you two key things.
One is tolerance ( as mentioned in a previous post) and secondly that this church gets over 80,000 people per week to its masses (thriving Christian community in a Muslim country).

 

This doesn't address my point.

 

OK - I will repeat my question.

Are you telling me or preaching to me?

 

If you were a muslim you'd be of the IS variety.... you're as inflexible as they are.

Your emphasis is on the absolute.... you're not about love peace and turning the other cheek ... you want to... 'smite thy enemy'.... you're as bonkers as they are.

 

Neither. I'm trying to understand where in the Bible it says that there's salvation by any means other than faith in Christ. Well, I'll answer for you: it doesn't say choose your own path or follow your own deity. The Bible explicitly and unequivocally states that there is one way to life and that it is through a small gate and along a narrow road.

I get the whole tolerance thing, it's all very postmodern and trendy, but loving your neighbour and family and, indeed, your enemy, often involves being unpopular. Pick up your cross and give them the Truth, cause offence and stand firm. Your God demands it and I'm afraid the alternative is to apostatise.

 

You're right that I'm an absolutist; how can a Christian be anything else? Relativism is the preserve of the religiously tolerant atheist.

 

So you are preaching to me then!

Well don't - go and preach to somebody else who might be weaker in the mind and believe your assertions.

 

Not my assertions, Steve, but that of Jesus Christ.

 

I like that term... although I wouldn't say I'm 100% atheist... I believe there are things in this universe that are greater than man... but I'd be more inclined to be in awe of "mother nature"

All this worshiping supreme beings and ideology is for people that have a void in their lives... I'd be inclined to suggest they get out a little more and do something to occupy their minds and not dwell so much on the 'mysteries of the universe' and enjoy what little time they have on this planet.

 

So it's your way or not at all?

 

John 14:6

 

Except you're not Jesus, you're JTaylor of Scoobynet fame. You're way is merely the way you've taken to be right and true based on the learning and experiece gained through out you life.

 

I am aware that I'm not the Son of God, Neil. I've not gone all David Icke. My point is that Jesus said (and says) that He is the only means of salvation. Steve has adopted a relativist position and I, out of love, am attempting to illustrate why the position is not concordant with verse 15 of the chapter turned up. Mark 16:15 is another of the Lord's commands. I don't pretend to fulfil all of His commandments for the reason stated in the opening sentence of this post, but I do confess my numerous short comings - I am very conscious of them.

 

One of your Lord's greatest commandments was: 'Thou shalt love thy neighbour like thyself'. I see no hint of that love being extended to 'thy neighbours' anywhere in your posts. You pay no more than lip service to the principle but you fall massively short in the execution.

 

all religous types are the same arrogrant and self centered believing its their way or the highway etc, my mother inlaw is a witness and they are so arrogant they call theirs the TRUTH therfore implying all other religeon is wrong and untruthfull bit like the devout christians and muslims, believers in adult fairytales the lot of them want their heads read

 

That sounds a nightmare.

 

Out of love?? LOL! Out of your sheer arrogance, more like! You think you are God's gift with your blinding knowledge!


Well, then. Stop picking faults in others' understanding and liberal following with your same old, pest style challenging questioning. Just because you 'confess' to some bull£h1t, others don't have to. If others bear liberal thinking on Islam and their Christian belief, as opposed to yours, live and let live, what's the harm in that?? On no! You can't do that! How would you get the 'lone actor' attention and exposure on the threads like this, if you didn't pick faults in others' understanding and following, with your pest like questioning? James Taylor becomes the centre of attraction as a lone actor! As long as this target is being achieved, that's job being done jolly well for you, isn't it? As hodgy says, other side of the same coin.