So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
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I'm still not so sure Trump is going to give us such a good deal, after all he is a business man and a patriot, but I suppose it's nice to be at the front of the line and will no doubt shake the EU if we do in fact get a good deal.
I've taken a bit of a hit on the fall in the pound over the past few months but it seems to be coming back a little bit at the moment, against the Kuna anyway.
I've also sorted out my permanent residency in the past few weeks, just by way of getting in ahead of the crowd and any triggering of article 50, so I'm a happy man, they can do what they like now.
Waits for the comments from Mr 'A' about me being an I'm alright jack FEE.
I've taken a bit of a hit on the fall in the pound over the past few months but it seems to be coming back a little bit at the moment, against the Kuna anyway.
I've also sorted out my permanent residency in the past few weeks, just by way of getting in ahead of the crowd and any triggering of article 50, so I'm a happy man, they can do what they like now.
Waits for the comments from Mr 'A' about me being an I'm alright jack FEE.
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yes, I would be wary of celebrating a Trump endorsement
his new Business secretary Wilbur Ross, acknowledged (post EU vote) that it was a "God-given opportunity" for foreign business to take business away from the UK
"I recommend that Cyprus should adopt and immediately announce even more liberal financial service policies than it already has so that it can try to take advantage of the inevitable relocations that will occur during the period of confusion," he is quoted as saying.
He is said to have added that the UK's withdrawal from the EU was a "God-given opportunity" for financial rivals of the City of London, naming Frankfurt and Dublin in particular"
but a trade deal with the US will be interesting - it would be quite hard for our Farmers to compete with the massive US agro industry
in addition presumably we would have to accept their meat / food products - which are pumped full of cra4p that is banned in the EU
his new Business secretary Wilbur Ross, acknowledged (post EU vote) that it was a "God-given opportunity" for foreign business to take business away from the UK
"I recommend that Cyprus should adopt and immediately announce even more liberal financial service policies than it already has so that it can try to take advantage of the inevitable relocations that will occur during the period of confusion," he is quoted as saying.
He is said to have added that the UK's withdrawal from the EU was a "God-given opportunity" for financial rivals of the City of London, naming Frankfurt and Dublin in particular"
but a trade deal with the US will be interesting - it would be quite hard for our Farmers to compete with the massive US agro industry
in addition presumably we would have to accept their meat / food products - which are pumped full of cra4p that is banned in the EU
#903
Trump's economic strategy is basically to penalise foreign manufactures with a hike in tariffs and prevent native companies from investing in foreign countries. His administration will inherit a national debt of nearly $20tn and he wants to stifle foreign investment into the US and alienate the US from the rest of the world. So the likely outlook is that any deal that the UK can negotiate will weigh heavily in the US's favour. It'll probably be negotiated via Twitter.
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Trump's economic strategy is basically to penalise foreign manufactures with a hike in tariffs and prevent native companies from investing in foreign countries. His administration will inherit a national debt of nearly $20tn and he wants to stifle foreign investment into the US and alienate the US from the rest of the world. So the likely outlook is that any deal that the UK can negotiate will weigh heavily in the US's favour. It'll probably be negotiated via Twitter.
Ring any bells over here.
#907
I think Clinton won more votes (hundreds of thousands more) than Trump, but due to the electoral college system, Trump won more states, he got in instead.
#908
Yes I realise that, but I think his popularity will increase, as having many,many relatives in the states and having been there quite a few times, I can confirm the red neck mentality is alive and well over there, even in my relatives of African origin, who are by the way all quite well educated, and the Italian origin ones on my wife's side (her brother married yank) are even worse and they essentially work in the US stock market, so not you average shoot em up cowboy type.
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So, hard brexit it is!
Not sure about Little Britain, this is probably the start of Little America! Wave goodbye to the NHS and your workers rights
Not sure about Little Britain, this is probably the start of Little America! Wave goodbye to the NHS and your workers rights
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Now I'm not saying all is rosy by any stretch but the IMF have just increased their UK growth predictions for 2017 and 2018.
I'm a glass half full kind of guy
I'm a glass half full kind of guy
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I have IMF forecast increased for 2017, but decreased for 2108
https://www.theguardian.com/business...rade-us-europe
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7529536.html
"Brexit latest: IMF upgrades 2017 UK growth but downgrades 2018
Fund projects 2017 growth for Britain of 1.5 per cent, up from 1.1 per cent, but forecast in 2018 is slashed to 1.4 per cent, down from 1.7 per cent"
forecasters have just got the inflation figures wrong - so I don't put much faith in any of them tbh
a hard brexit was the only option really - the Boris Johnson et al have your cake and eat was always delusional nonsense
interesting times ahead
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they still don't have a fvcking clue
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How sweet. But then I guess that given you're complicit in this farce you have little choice. It seems unlikely that you'd have the minerals to admit you voted for an omni-shambles.
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In other (related) news, Apple have announced today they are increasing prices in the app store by 25% due to the weak £!
This is the biggest problem with Brexit as there was never an agreed alternative that people voted for!
In New Zealand last year, they had a referendum to change their flag. Actually, they had two referendums; the first one was to select an alternative flag from a shortlist of 5 designs and the second referendum was to keep the flag or accept the new (most popular) design! They chose to keep the original flag!
Brexit should have been done the same way; first a referendum on what Brexit would actually mean and then give people a choice to remain or accept a defined Brexit which is aggreed as the best alternative!
Theresa May is now boldly claiming that the country is now coming together in unity about Brexit, but in reality, the delusional unelected dictator is creating an even bigger divide!
This is the biggest problem with Brexit as there was never an agreed alternative that people voted for!
In New Zealand last year, they had a referendum to change their flag. Actually, they had two referendums; the first one was to select an alternative flag from a shortlist of 5 designs and the second referendum was to keep the flag or accept the new (most popular) design! They chose to keep the original flag!
Brexit should have been done the same way; first a referendum on what Brexit would actually mean and then give people a choice to remain or accept a defined Brexit which is aggreed as the best alternative!
Theresa May is now boldly claiming that the country is now coming together in unity about Brexit, but in reality, the delusional unelected dictator is creating an even bigger divide!
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take IDS - he should be hauled up before a court, he presided over a "work assessment" policy that killed people - not spouting 7 shades of **** about the EU on the radio
just google
"ids atos deaths" - an utter scandal
#925
Problem is... I think the ruling classes don't give a t0$$ really as it won't matter to the likes of May, Johnson etc as long as they give the appearance of trying to do something about getting us good deals, then when they don't, they'll just blame the EU... as usual. They all have money, investments etc and they'll just move them around... of course with the benefit of inside knowledge before any of said information becomes public.
As mentioned before, it's the likes of the majority of working folks that will pay the real price/ foot the bill.
I don't see it hitting hard immediately, but more over a 5 to 10yr period before things settle back down, batten the hatches and hold on tight, because after the 5yr mark... there's a storm coming. and maybe even a vote to re-join.
Just remember where you heard it first.
As mentioned before, it's the likes of the majority of working folks that will pay the real price/ foot the bill.
I don't see it hitting hard immediately, but more over a 5 to 10yr period before things settle back down, batten the hatches and hold on tight, because after the 5yr mark... there's a storm coming. and maybe even a vote to re-join.
Just remember where you heard it first.
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whats the source for that
I have IMF forecast increased for 2017, but decreased for 2108
https://www.theguardian.com/business...rade-us-europe
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7529536.html
"Brexit latest: IMF upgrades 2017 UK growth but downgrades 2018
Fund projects 2017 growth for Britain of 1.5 per cent, up from 1.1 per cent, but forecast in 2018 is slashed to 1.4 per cent, down from 1.7 per cent"
forecasters have just got the inflation figures wrong - so I don't put much faith in any of them tbh
a hard brexit was the only option really - the Boris Johnson et al have your cake and eat was always delusional nonsense
interesting times ahead
I have IMF forecast increased for 2017, but decreased for 2108
https://www.theguardian.com/business...rade-us-europe
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7529536.html
"Brexit latest: IMF upgrades 2017 UK growth but downgrades 2018
Fund projects 2017 growth for Britain of 1.5 per cent, up from 1.1 per cent, but forecast in 2018 is slashed to 1.4 per cent, down from 1.7 per cent"
forecasters have just got the inflation figures wrong - so I don't put much faith in any of them tbh
a hard brexit was the only option really - the Boris Johnson et al have your cake and eat was always delusional nonsense
interesting times ahead
Sorry my mistake, its upgraded for 2017 but not 2018. The language used in your bolded quote is interesting though. When the forecast is increased from 1.1 % to 1.5 % its just described as up, when it is downgraded from 1.7% to 1.4% it is described as 'slashed'
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The only way we can compete globally, without the economic protection the EU offers, is to be cheap! At the moment, our labour costs are way too high to compete against the likes of China! To compete with China, we need the workers rights and pay and conditions of China! Time to sends the kids to the pits or the mill to earn their keep! Welcome to 19th.... sorry 21st century Britain!
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Why do you feel the need to be so vitriolic towards somebody just because their opinion differs to yours?
Well, at least you've not relinquished all your powers of reason.
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Problem is... I think the ruling classes don't give a t0$$ really as it won't matter to the likes of May, Johnson etc as long as they give the appearance of trying to do something about getting us good deals, then when they don't, they'll just blame the EU... as usual. :
lets see where we are in 5 years time
obviously, as Ditchy has said, the one set of people who it won't really effect are the politicians
and we know they are pretty good at polishing a turd anyway