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29 August 2016, 10:26 PM
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Here's the UK regulations.
1. What are the call recording laws in the UK?
The interception, recording and monitoring of telephone calls is governed by a number of different pieces of UK legislation. The main being:
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 ("RIPA")
Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice)(Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000 ("LBP Regulations")
Data Protection Act 1998
Telecommunications (Data Protection and Privacy) Regulations 1999
Human Rights Act 1998
Moreover, according to the Data Protection Act 1988, in order to record a call where a company is able to identify the identity of either party involved in the call, it has to:
Inform the other party how the recording will be used
Obtain permission for the call to be recorded
Data to be kept in a secure location - accessible when requested
Do you ask permission before every call? I know if I was doing business with you, I'd stop.
Androids latest version may well equal the latest version of iOS, but even the latest Android based devices shop with out of date versions. I doubt even 1% of Andriod based devices are up to date.
29 August 2016, 11:28 PM
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It's certainly not as cut and dry as that.
Here's the UK regulations.
1. What are the call recording laws in the UK?
The interception, recording and monitoring of telephone calls is governed by a number of different pieces of UK legislation. The main being:
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 ("RIPA")
Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice)(Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000 ("LBP Regulations")
Data Protection Act 1998
Telecommunications (Data Protection and Privacy) Regulations 1999
Human Rights Act 1998
Moreover, according to the Data Protection Act 1988, in order to record a call where a company is able to identify the identity of either party involved in the call, it has to:
Inform the other party how the recording will be used
Obtain permission for the call to be recorded
Data to be kept in a secure location - accessible when requested
Do you ask permission before every call? I know if I was doing business with you, I'd stop.
Androids latest version may well equal the latest version of iOS, but even the latest Android based devices shop with out of date versions. I doubt even 1% of Andriod based devices are up to date.
Here's the UK regulations.
1. What are the call recording laws in the UK?
The interception, recording and monitoring of telephone calls is governed by a number of different pieces of UK legislation. The main being:
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 ("RIPA")
Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice)(Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000 ("LBP Regulations")
Data Protection Act 1998
Telecommunications (Data Protection and Privacy) Regulations 1999
Human Rights Act 1998
Moreover, according to the Data Protection Act 1988, in order to record a call where a company is able to identify the identity of either party involved in the call, it has to:
Inform the other party how the recording will be used
Obtain permission for the call to be recorded
Data to be kept in a secure location - accessible when requested
Do you ask permission before every call? I know if I was doing business with you, I'd stop.
Androids latest version may well equal the latest version of iOS, but even the latest Android based devices shop with out of date versions. I doubt even 1% of Andriod based devices are up to date.
The reason I record calls is because I like to be able to do what the client wants first time without having to keep calling them up and asking them questions that they have already answered. A more professional approach I'm sure you'll agree.
If a client calls me, my answering system screens all calls before actually connecting them to one of my phones. And in the welcome message, yes, there is an announcement that all calls are recorded.
Why would you stop doing business with a company that records telephone calls? If thats the case then perhaps you should stop doing business with your bank/s, your credit card provider/s, you utilities provider/s, your mobile phone provider/s. They all record calls, for training and security purposes naturally!
Where are you getting your figures from? How do you come to a figure of only 1% of Android devices being up to date?
Have you ever used an Android phone for more than a week? If so, then you would know that any updates are announced to the user, some are even pushed to the device and installed automatically. Especially critical updates.
Also, I think you will find that a lot of iOS devices also ship with out of date software.
At the end of the week, all devices have some form of vulnerability, and you being in the industry should know that. There is no perfectly secure device and there never will be if it requires the use of a network for some functions, simple really.
29 August 2016, 11:37 PM
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Without going into too much detail, my business infrastructure more than meets all of the requirements you listed, and more!
The reason I record calls is because I like to be able to do what the client wants first time without having to keep calling them up and asking them questions that they have already answered. A more professional approach I'm sure you'll agree.
If a client calls me, my answering system screens all calls before actually connecting them to one of my phones. And in the welcome message, yes, there is an announcement that all calls are recorded.
Why would you stop doing business with a company that records telephone calls? If thats the case then perhaps you should stop doing business with your bank/s, your credit card provider/s, you utilities provider/s, your mobile phone provider/s. They all record calls, for training and security purposes naturally!
Where are you getting your figures from? How do you come to a figure of only 1% of Android devices being up to date?
Have you ever used an Android phone for more than a week? If so, then you would know that any updates are announced to the user, some are even pushed to the device and installed automatically. Especially critical updates.
Also, I think you will find that a lot of iOS devices also ship with out of date software.
At the end of the week, all devices have some form of vulnerability, and you being in the industry should know that. There is no perfectly secure device and there never will be if it requires the use of a network for some functions, simple really.
The reason I record calls is because I like to be able to do what the client wants first time without having to keep calling them up and asking them questions that they have already answered. A more professional approach I'm sure you'll agree.
If a client calls me, my answering system screens all calls before actually connecting them to one of my phones. And in the welcome message, yes, there is an announcement that all calls are recorded.
Why would you stop doing business with a company that records telephone calls? If thats the case then perhaps you should stop doing business with your bank/s, your credit card provider/s, you utilities provider/s, your mobile phone provider/s. They all record calls, for training and security purposes naturally!
Where are you getting your figures from? How do you come to a figure of only 1% of Android devices being up to date?
Have you ever used an Android phone for more than a week? If so, then you would know that any updates are announced to the user, some are even pushed to the device and installed automatically. Especially critical updates.
Also, I think you will find that a lot of iOS devices also ship with out of date software.
At the end of the week, all devices have some form of vulnerability, and you being in the industry should know that. There is no perfectly secure device and there never will be if it requires the use of a network for some functions, simple really.
30 August 2016, 08:00 AM
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Where are you getting your figures from? How do you come to a figure of only 1% of Android devices being up to date?
Have you ever used an Android phone for more than a week? If so, then you would know that any updates are announced to the user, some are even pushed to the device and installed automatically. Especially critical updates.
Also, I think you will find that a lot of iOS devices also ship with out of date software.
At the end of the week, all devices have some form of vulnerability, and you being in the industry should know that. There is no perfectly secure device and there never will be if it requires the use of a network for some functions, simple really.
Have you ever used an Android phone for more than a week? If so, then you would know that any updates are announced to the user, some are even pushed to the device and installed automatically. Especially critical updates.
Also, I think you will find that a lot of iOS devices also ship with out of date software.
At the end of the week, all devices have some form of vulnerability, and you being in the industry should know that. There is no perfectly secure device and there never will be if it requires the use of a network for some functions, simple really.
iOS devices may well ship with out of date software, but then you click the update button. You will be well aware that that's not the case with Android devices.
30 August 2016, 08:02 AM
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Can't wait for your return, I'll start baking custard pies.
30 August 2016, 09:21 AM
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Apple being a bit too naughty in Ireland too...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKCN114211
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKCN114211
30 August 2016, 09:23 AM
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When I said 1% I was being generous https://developer.android.com/about/...rds/index.html
iOS devices may well ship with out of date software, but then you click the update button. You will be well aware that that's not the case with Android devices.
iOS devices may well ship with out of date software, but then you click the update button. You will be well aware that that's not the case with Android devices.
I reckon your brain is deformed at this stage by Apple.
30 August 2016, 09:47 AM
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SAMSUNG
Being the biggest doesn’t always mean being the best when its comes to Android updates, and, like a lazy teen trying to be roused before noon, Samsung’s isn’t exactly known for its speedy updates. Although Sammy has yet to confirm its official Android Nougat update plans, sadly we don’t expect this to change anytime soon, and certainly not in time for the initial release.
Last time around, Samsung handset owners were forced to wait five months for the first Marshmallow updates to drop, and then it was only US-based Galaxy Note 5 owners who got in early. If you’re sporting a new Samsung blower, we wouldn’t hold out too much hope of joining the Nougat revolution before 2017.
Being the biggest doesn’t always mean being the best when its comes to Android updates, and, like a lazy teen trying to be roused before noon, Samsung’s isn’t exactly known for its speedy updates. Although Sammy has yet to confirm its official Android Nougat update plans, sadly we don’t expect this to change anytime soon, and certainly not in time for the initial release.
Last time around, Samsung handset owners were forced to wait five months for the first Marshmallow updates to drop, and then it was only US-based Galaxy Note 5 owners who got in early. If you’re sporting a new Samsung blower, we wouldn’t hold out too much hope of joining the Nougat revolution before 2017.
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30 August 2016, 10:56 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
30 August 2016, 11:05 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
Jack - what are your expectations of the new iphone. How far behind others will Apple be when its released in other words.
30 August 2016, 12:43 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
Ireland should recover up to 13 billion euros from Apple in back taxes, European Commission rules
30 August 2016, 12:45 PM
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I expect it to be better with at least one innovation. Bear in mind that the current iPhone trounces all Android devices in real world tests.
30 August 2016, 04:18 PM
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Yes you are missing something, a whole version. Check your phone, what version is it running?
30 August 2016, 04:21 PM
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Shares seem to be doing just fine, you should feel sorry for Ireland I can't imaging any expansion happening and what with Brexit I doubt they'll be knocking on England's door.
30 August 2016, 06:39 PM
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The biggest mugs are people like Jack, brain washed into buying into their eco system of products more often than not inferior to what can be got else where. Only the Apple fanatics themselves think their products are best.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...land-state-aid
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...iant-paid.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKCN114211
'EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager questioned how anyone might think an arrangement that allowed Apple to pay a tax rate of 0.005 percent, as Apple's main Irish unit did in 2014, was fair.'
30 August 2016, 06:46 PM
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Shameful practice from Ireland for allowing them to have a favourable rate? Bringing millions of euros to the country and thousands of jobs??
Shares seem to be doing just fine, you should feel sorry for Ireland I can't imaging any expansion happening and what with Brexit I doubt they'll be knocking on England's door.
Shares seem to be doing just fine, you should feel sorry for Ireland I can't imaging any expansion happening and what with Brexit I doubt they'll be knocking on England's door.
Apple Finance : " If you offer us a sweet deal on tax we will provide you with annual bonus of xxxx amount plus as many Apple products for your lifetime.
Irish Finance Minister: ' Sounds good to me, how does 5% sound'
Apple Finance : ' I will throw in a Mac Book too....(puss in boots face)
Irish Finance Minister: ' sounds a plan, lets do it at 0.005% then'
Apple Finance : ' where do i sign'
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30 August 2016, 07:56 PM
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Nice bar charts. Not exactly as convincing as putting two devices next to each other and running the same apps, but I guess big numbers are better to your brainwashed mind.
30 August 2016, 07:59 PM
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Looks like some big wig pulled a fast one with the Minister of Finance back when these tax breaks were agreed.
Apple Finance : " If you offer us a sweet deal on tax we will provide you with annual bonus of xxxx amount plus as many Apple products for your lifetime.
Irish Finance Minister: ' Sounds good to me, how does 5% sound'
Apple Finance : ' I will throw in a Mac Book too....(puss in boots face)
Irish Finance Minister: ' sounds a plan, lets do it at 0.005% then'
Apple Finance : ' where do i sign'
Apple Finance : " If you offer us a sweet deal on tax we will provide you with annual bonus of xxxx amount plus as many Apple products for your lifetime.
Irish Finance Minister: ' Sounds good to me, how does 5% sound'
Apple Finance : ' I will throw in a Mac Book too....(puss in boots face)
Irish Finance Minister: ' sounds a plan, lets do it at 0.005% then'
Apple Finance : ' where do i sign'
30 August 2016, 08:01 PM
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not sure who is brainwashed here, if you open your eyes a small bit you might want to rephrase that.
30 August 2016, 08:07 PM
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must make you proud to be part of this corporation, sad people will still be queuing up for the iPhone 7 no doubt, probably gasping in awe at its full hd display.
30 August 2016, 08:35 PM
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Until you can show me a video like my example with a different result I'll stick with my phrasing. All you have is a bar chart showing big numbers and a screenshot from a movie you're watching on a tiny screen, hardly convincing me that you're device is an iPhone killer.
30 August 2016, 08:37 PM
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Apple are not the only large US company in Ireland, dont see any news stories about all the other companies not paying tax, or certainly tax higher than 0.005%.
must make you proud to be part of this corporation, sad people will still be queuing up for the iPhone 7 no doubt, probably gasping in awe at its full hd display.
must make you proud to be part of this corporation, sad people will still be queuing up for the iPhone 7 no doubt, probably gasping in awe at its full hd display.
Think of it this way, you go to do your shopping, get to the till and find you've been selected for a big discount, what do you do?
30 August 2016, 08:48 PM
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Until you can show me a video like my example with a different result I'll stick with my phrasing. All you have is a bar chart showing big numbers and a screenshot from a movie you're watching on a tiny screen, hardly convincing me that you're device is an iPhone killer.
Then again 4" screens is all IPhone users are able to manage what with all them nice widgets taking up space.