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Lets have a closer look. First paragraph "The latest smartphone OS data from Kantar Worldpanel ComTech for the three months ending March 2016 shows Android continuing to grow sales across the EU5, US, and Urban China"
OK, so this is from Smartphone OS data, Android vs iOS, I got to 'Grow sales' bit and started laughing.
i think share holders are with you on that tony, 2% down today so far
They were doomed two weeks ago according to you, I'm still waiting for the $90 share price, it better hurry up. Now, get your finger out of the dyke and find something fun to do.
On a Friday, before the market is open, probably not. 80% of my stock is in Facebook right now and they're quite likely going to do better than Apple over the weekend. I can't see it going down a lot more, I wish it was closer to the developer conference as new products initially scare the market and I obviously want to buy as low as possible.
Try to take the **** as much as you want, but if you'd followed my advice you'd be quids in.
So are you going to put your money where your mouth is and buy into AAPL like you said you would when it reached $90? Or have you lost your confidence in Apple?
So are you going to put your money where your mouth is and buy into AAPL like you said you would when it reached $90? Or have you lost your confidence in Apple?
Well if even the likes of you have lost confidence in AAPL in such a short time, surely this is the beginning of the end! The trends don't lie!
I don't blame you though. Apple has ploughed over hundred billion of borrowed dollars in its share buyback scheme to boost its stock and dividends. Its a debt laden strategy where it not only started buying its own stock at peak price but along with the inflated stock price having to pay out huge dividends to its investors. Firms usually embark on a buyback programme as they believe their stock is undervalued. Unfortunately the market doesn't share the same sentiment. When Apple started their buyback programme in 2012, their share price was around $90 per share, four years on the share value has not increased and is the same as when it started this programme. Yet despite this, Tim Cook has committed more borrowing to a cumulative total of $200bn to the buyback programme to 2017.
In my opinion, what Apple should be doing is instead of spending billions on buying back its shares is to spend that on research and development and innovation on its product lines. So far we've seen a decline in its market share and growth because the new products they keep releasing are generally not much different to the previous version. Consumers as a result have lost its enthusiasm (except for you Jack!) for Apple products, its drop in revenue reflects this.
Having said that, I'm not saying that Tim Cook is the next John Sculley and nor do I think Apple are in any danger of evaporating. But I do think Apple have reached its peak, it is an inevitability.
They were doomed two weeks ago according to you, I'm still waiting for the $90 share price, it better hurry up. Now, get your finger out of the dyke and find something fun to do.
Whilst I agree that Apple are not going to go bust any time soon, surely even you must concede that since Stevie boy popped his clogs, the company has taken directions he probably would not have allowed, and they are not a strong as they used to be.
I was reading an article the other day about the stuff the are doing now that is starting to grate on consumers, and some other stuff which Jobs would simply have not stood for with regards to how they make things.
They are a victim of their own success in some ways. I don't doubt Apple will be a huge strong company for many years, but their heyday could certainly have passed.
Well if even the likes of you have lost confidence in AAPL in such a short time, surely this is the beginning of the end! The trends don't lie!
I don't blame you though. Apple has ploughed over hundred billion of borrowed dollars in its share buyback scheme to boost its stock and dividends. Its a debt laden strategy where it not only started buying its own stock at peak price but along with the inflated stock price having to pay out huge dividends to its investors. Firms usually embark on a buyback programme as they believe their stock is undervalued. Unfortunately the market doesn't share the same sentiment. When Apple started their buyback programme in 2012, their share price was around $90 per share, four years on the share value has not increased and is the same as when it started this programme. Yet despite this, Tim Cook has committed more borrowing to a cumulative total of $200bn to the buyback programme to 2017.
In my opinion, what Apple should be doing is instead of spending billions on buying back its shares is to spend that on research and development and innovation on its product lines. So far we've seen a decline in its market share and growth because the new products they keep releasing are generally not much different to the previous version. Consumers as a result have lost its enthusiasm (except for you Jack!) for Apple products, its drop in revenue reflects this.
Having said that, I'm not saying that Tim Cook is the next John Sculley and nor do I think Apple are in any danger of evaporating. But I do think Apple have reached its peak, it is an inevitability.
"except for you Jack!" I bought a Watch over a year ago, I wouldn't call myself an enthusiastic consumer, enthusiastic user for sure, I enthusiastically created a wonderful wired and wireless network yesterday for a customer that had been struggling with cheap things that 'do the same without the marketing' I have the same network in my house, but mine's much older, the new products were much improved, but you'd have people believe they were the same due to lack of R&D.
Whilst I agree that Apple are not going to go bust any time soon, surely even you must concede that since Stevie boy popped his clogs, the company has taken directions he probably would not have allowed, and they are not a strong as they used to be.
I was reading an article the other day about the stuff the are doing now that is starting to grate on consumers, and some other stuff which Jobs would simply have not stood for with regards to how they make things.
They are a victim of their own success in some ways. I don't doubt Apple will be a huge strong company for many years, but their heyday could certainly have passed.
It was a long time ago and a lot of great things as well as things Jobs wouldn't have liked have happened, what you're suffering from is taking too much notice of the vocal minority and a lack of understanding that bad news sells for the media. Stating that something is good leads to beratement, look at how hounded I am on here, it doesn't sell adverts.
Makes for a great and encouraging read if you're a Apple fanboy since it's written by a hardcore Apple fanboy. If this article is such great news, why haven't you piled into AAPL? Let's look at Apples previous "pivots", wearables has been a flop for Apple since the Watch has failed to live up to expectations and Apple Pay is hardly a barnstoming success either. Speculation on Apple's next pivot may be an electric car. If true, they are up against hugely established competition. I always go for the underdogs but this may be a stretch too far. I hope they succeed as more competition drives innovation.
12 May 2016, 01:27 PM
Apple really looking to be in trouble
