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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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I can only think it was intended as the first step in a bigger plan .
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:59 AM
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I can only think it was intended as the first step in a bigger plan .

his goal being...?


(please don't say to make America great again )
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World domination . Its anybodys guess
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gary77
World domination . Its anybodys guess

Ahh OK, sorry thought you were implying you understood why he had taken this path and were going to enlighten us
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Ahh OK, sorry thought you were implying you understood why he had taken this path and were going to enlighten us
No, he has his tin foil hat on
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
Ahh OK, sorry thought you were implying you understood why he had taken this path and were going to enlighten us
If only i could .

Like everyone else i have no idea why he wanted the ban .just pointing out nobody seems to really care why either
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 07:23 AM
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Ive decided to go with reuters .and trust that they issue the real news in as close to an unbiased way as possable .

There polls are interesting . You can single out any groups to see how they voted in the poll .

https://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM.../type/smallest

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ind...611.html%3Famp


Sound.
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jeff sessions actually appears to be a sprite
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gary77
If only i could .

Like everyone else i have no idea why he wanted the ban .just pointing out nobody seems to really care why either
Is the motivation really that important when its just basically a 5hitty thing to do?
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 07:50 AM
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Great move that
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Everyone seems focussed on Trump... it's the oldest slight of hand in the book... one things for sure... he's not alone in any of this... someone or 'others' are pulling the strings here... mark my words, they're up to no good while everyone is busy watching the puppet show.
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Is it you ditchy
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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Is it you ditchy
Yeah, it's my tin hat that's making me seem like it's someone else posting on my behalf.
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Everyone seems focussed on Trump... it's the oldest slight of hand in the book... one things for sure... he's not alone in any of this... someone or 'others' are pulling the strings here... mark my words, they're up to no good while everyone is busy watching the puppet show.

Not according to some people on here; I thought Trump was the antidote the world needed
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/What-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration


A lot of people need to pull their heads out of their ***** and smell the coffee.

At least they can get some respite from the fact that we appear to be the second least intolerant behind Spain.

Either way the gist is Europe doesn't want Muslims any more than Trump.
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Yes thanks , proves irrevocably that the average mid aged mid class nobody engineer is fully scared of job / resources competition / security - muslim liable be better at maths
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Keep kidding yourself.

This has been a long time coming.
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:34 PM
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what has
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:44 PM
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Anti-Muslim backlash.
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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And before you stereotype me, more than anything else I'm a pragmatist and frankly I just think they're more trouble than they're worth.
They've had their chance and it's too much hassle.
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
And before you stereotype me, more than anything else I'm a pragmatist and frankly I just think they're more trouble than they're worth.
They've had their chance and it's too much hassle.

Your language damns you really; you can't define that many people by religion alone.
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Your language damns you really; you can't define that many people by religion alone.

Why not? For true Mulims their religion defines their every thought and action; ISIS is an extreme version of Islamism but no less valid.
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Why not? For true Mulims their religion defines their every thought and action; ISIS is an extreme version of Islamism but no less valid.
You have already had to use 'true' to start to contextualise his statement...in order for it to mean anything at all -thats not anecdotal it would require far more information.

Otherwise its just a sweep statement, right?
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Originally Posted by trails
You have already had to use 'true' to start to contextualise his statement...in order for it to mean anything at all -thats not anecdotal it would require far more information.

Otherwise its just a sweep statement, right?

You first sentence makes no sense. Of course 'true' as apposed to lapsed, otherwise they're not Muslims. Muslim leaders, at best, have played lip service to the condemnation of ISIS and its actions. Muslims, for the most part, are Muslims first and foremost, their birth country playing little part in their affinities. This makes it very easy when planning action against their 'fellow countrymen'. Trump is right wishing to keep them out.
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
You first sentence makes no sense. Of course 'true' as apposed to lapsed, otherwise they're not Muslims. Muslim leaders, at best, have played lip service to the condemnation of ISIS and its actions. Muslims, for the most part, are Muslims first and foremost, their birth country playing little part in their affinities. This makes it very easy when planning action against their 'fellow countrymen'. Trump is right wishing to keep them out.
Yes it does...

More sweeping statements, a bit like me saying everyone that's served in the armed forces is dumb; it mans nothing but it elisictes an emotive response.
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Originally Posted by trails
Yes it does...

More sweeping statements, a bit like me saying everyone that's served in the armed forces is dumb; it mans nothing but it elisictes an emotive response.

You should save your support for Muslims until the next atrocity committed in the name of Allah, then try telling the relatives of the victims about your convictions.
The only excuse for your opinions is if you're a Musim yourself, which perhaps you are.
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Originally Posted by Paben
You should save your support for Muslims until the next atrocity committed in the name of Allah, then try telling the relatives of the victims about your convictions.
The only excuse for your opinions is if you're a Musim yourself, which perhaps you are.
What about the next atrocity committed in the name of Christianity or any other form of religion or tribalism?

I find your opinion narrow, incredibly lacking in any kind of intellect and utterly deplorable.

My friends, and in some cases very long standing and close who happen to be Muslim are way more outraged by the actions of extremist than you'll ever be!

Mainly because they have to put up with idiots like you who think that it's fine to use guilt by association as a kind of logic.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
What about the next atrocity committed in the name of Christianity or any other form of religion or tribalism?

I find your opinion narrow, incredibly lacking in any kind of intellect and utterly deplorable.

My friends, and in some cases very long standing and close who happen to be Muslim are way more outraged by the actions of extremist than you'll ever be!

Mainly because they have to put up with idiots like you who think that it's fine to use guilt by association as a kind of logic.

Exactly when was the last atrocity committed in the name of Christianity? You're talking like the self important fool that you obviously are, defending the indefensible. And don't presume to judge my levels of outrage; I've seen close up what your 'friends' can do in the name of Islam. I also had the misfortune to be in an Arab country when 9/11 occurred. The celebrations on the streets were sickening to witness, so spare me your tripe about outraged Muslims.
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Originally Posted by Paben
You should save your support for Muslims until the next atrocity committed in the name of Allah, then try telling the relatives of the victims about your convictions.
The only excuse for your opinions is if you're a Musim yourself, which perhaps you are.
Yeah 'cos being one of 'them' is the only way to feel empathy. Your outlook has clearly been coloured by your work experiences and you aren't open to any alternative perspectives.
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