In this instance the whole conversation is here to be read. Perhaps Paben's presenting alternative facts; who knows?

 

I demand to see Trumps birth certificate as he was actually born in Pakistan lol.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...p-born-9266712

 

Didn't he do well !!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...muslim-9724416

 

Well after reading your link i have to agree we should do whatever it takes to please all muslims no matter what lol

 

Oh dear , Trump trumped.!!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile..../idUSKBN15I1CM

 

Interesting reading . Id like to know the Presidents plan during the ban . What changes would he make before letting people from those countries in.

And what concerns do they have about the system as it is.

Without knowing that i cant judge his decision.
But it does seem to be badly implemented either way.

Any terrorists better get moving now in case the ban is put back in place.

I think trump is to late anyway

Interesting to see more Americans are in favour of the ban than against it though

 

Where is that interesting information coming from???

 

Azerbaijan

 

That, or la la land. US is split but the majority think the ban is wrong.

 

reading back through that article and I see it incorrectly states that most are in favour of the ban. It depends where you look. I find most people, and not just my friends, are against. Plus many of the polls.

I find it interesting, seeing opinions of people in Britain, who are not out here in amongst it. I reminds me of when I had opinions of America and Americans, which were plainly wrong.

It's just insanity here and I have friends who are Trump supporters, with no logic to their reasoning, at all. It's bizarre. Now that there is no "but Killary and her emails" it's turned back to "but Obama" and then some random, nonsensical point that I can't get my head around usually follows that.

Fact is, Trump is a nightmare come true, the world is worse off for having him as the leader of such a giant superpower and nothing so far is proving that wrong.

 

Lol. No . It was in the link you posted

This paragraph

Americans are divided over Trump's order. A Reuters/Ipsos poll this week showed 49 percent favored it while 41 percent did not.



Classic

 

*" Any negative polls are fake news ". ???

This isn't going well at all

Or is this fake news as well ?

 

Its anybodies guess

 

It appears that how the polls are run is skewing the results.

Some polls appear to say that people are in favour, some say they are not. I have no idea what is what, to be fair. I will just say that in my opinion, there are a lot of alternative facts being bandied around.

 

Whatever the polls might or might not say, it's pretty clear the courts are convinced his order is illegal, or unconstitutional

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7564951.html


this was headline I was thinking about

 

Yeah, Trump is trampling over the constitution and also is now saying that Judges word/work means little to him, which is a little worrying!!

 

wow

 

I can well imagine this scenario in the near future. Screwed up college kid with history of mental illness goes back to his old college and uses his automatic to shoot a bunch of teachers and a dozen kids. Trump tut-tuts and Tweets that kids should be given guns to protect themselves. No thought about tightening gun controls of course.


The next week a disgruntled immigrant wounds a copper who is giving him a hard time. Trump goes ballistic, blames the judge, the press etc and opinions polls now report a huge majority in favour of keeping everyone out (except of course the Saudis who were mostly to blame for 9/11).


Footnote. Well done to the House of Commons Speaker today.


David

 

Could that be fake news

 

So, we decided to take a look at the latest such poll from CNN and "shockingly" found that Trump kind of has a point. For some reason, CNN/ORC simply can't seem to conduct a poll where the distribution of respondents mirrors the actual distribution of registered voters in the U.S. As you can see below, in the latest "oversample" farce, CNN decided that filling it's poll with Democrats was becoming way too obvious and, as such, just decided that 45% of registered voters are suddenly independent. From the polling methodology:

A total of 1,002 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. Among the entire sample, 29% described themselves as Democrats, 25% described themselves as Republicans, and 45% described themselves as independents or members of anot

 

Personally think Bercow overstepped his position.

House of Commons speaker should remain impartial.

 

I do sympathise with that view especially bearing in mind a host of previous overseas VIPs with dubious credentials who were invited to speak. On the other hand he is responsible for agreeing who is invited so there is an argument, albeit rather weak, that he is entitled to express an opinion. And I rather like the idea of someone putting their head above the parapet and rubbing May's face in it Personally I would rather Trump is asked to speak at Westminster Hall and witness many MPs walking out during his speech.


Just as long as he is kept waiting at Heathrow or Northolt while his credentials are checked


David

 

Any chance of a bit more context on that one?

 

It smells a little bit like bandwagon jumping - his Mrs can be fairly outspoken so perhaps it was more for her benefit than anything else. (She gets turned on by power, certainly not height)

The irony will be when Trump gets here, some bugger shoots him.

 

Mustn't laugh


David

 

Why did trump want this ban . Is he about to kick up a **** storm and wanted borders closed first

 

Definitely had small hand in it

 

Is it not strange that nobody seems to care what his reasons for it are . The question of why does the us government feel it was nessesary doesnt come up .its just a question of how do you feel about it even though you have no idea why he did it

 

In the appeal hearing last night the Trump team didn't put forward any evidence as to why the ban is needed.
So if they can't find a real reason themselves to explain their actions, what the hell are the rest of us to make of it?