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fascinating news conference by Trump press secretary - Sean Spicer
it did remind me of Chemical Ali - when he insisted that Bagdad was free from American troops when they and their tanks could clearly be seen in the background - lol
Spicer insisted the crowds at the inauguration ceremony where indeed record breaking even though they clearly not - pathetic and laughable in fact it was a clear demonstration of alt.reality
(the excuse was he was, and I am not making this up, presenting "alternative facts")
anyway the actual crowd numbers are tittle tattle and irrelevant - either way tbh
what is fascinating is that presumably they believe, in the words of Groucho Marx
“Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?”
I suspect we are going to have 4 years of facts (backed by evidence) and 4 years of alternative facts - (backed up by 0)
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 22 January 2017 at 08:18 PM.
at all the Guardian readers on this thread having one big naive love-in!
You guys really are in for some fun in the coming years ahead with the liberal age well and truly over You'll have plenty of things to rant about, although some of you may wake up and smell the coffee during this period hopefully
Looking at the Facebook gigapixel panorama photo, that bullet-proof screen looks like it only comes up to approx. chest height! Certainly not beyond head height.
Must be an optical illusion, I guess.
Last edited by joz8968; 23 January 2017 at 02:41 AM.
The only thing that your evidence proves with little doubt is that at 11am the numbers dont look great.
If you compare my picture and yours is it not possable and probable that more people arrived later due to protesters blocking entrances and the high security checks on people trying to get in .
The picture you posted paints the picture the media wanted.
I see what you mean, obviously. But why would the bullet shield be 'shopped (if it has)? It would serve no purpose.
But I can understand the possible photo-cloning of the crowds.
I was only commenting on the apparent height of the shield - Facebook photo, or not. As it looks low. Whereas on the news, it did indeed look like it was covering him.
I guess it's a trick of the vantage point.
Last edited by joz8968; 23 January 2017 at 08:43 AM.
at all the Guardian readers on this thread having one big naive love-in!
You guys really are in for some fun in the coming years ahead with the liberal age well and truly over You'll have plenty of things to rant about, although some of you may wake up and smell the coffee during this period hopefully
We shall see, my money says the grass isn't actually greener on the otherside and the worlds going to get pretty crappy before everybodys realises.
The only thing that your evidence proves with little doubt is that at 11am the numbers dont look great.
If you compare my picture and yours is it not possable and probable that more people arrived later due to protesters blocking entrances and the high security checks on people trying to get in .
The picture you posted paints the picture the media wanted.
sorry, the 11am is just w4nked about on facebook - to make it look like it was taken earlier that it was, so your very first sentence is b0llox, a lie and alternative fact
jeez
the editor of Reuters, who commissioned the photo has explained this himself, having seen b0ll0x posted on facebook
look, I know you are a CTr Gary, and no evidence will shake your belief, but as I said up thread - I am just laughing at you lot
you believe any old cr4p - lol
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 23 January 2017 at 08:49 AM.
I see what you mean, obviously. But why would the bullet shield be 'shopped (if it has)? It would serve no purpose.
But I can understand the possible photo-cloning of the crowds.
I was only commenting on the apparent height of the shield - Facebook photo, or not. As it looks low. Whereas on the news, it did indeed look like it was covering him.
I guess it's a trick of the vantage point.
who knows Joz, people post b0ll0x they've seen hawked around facebook and conspiracy sites
you post photos from Reuters - the oldest news agency in the world, with direct quotes from the commissioning editor
but its always easy to shout "conspiracy"
look at the link I posted - it is a great TED talk about how the eye can deceive the brain
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 23 January 2017 at 08:57 AM.
20 January 2017, 05:14 PM
at all the Guardian readers on this thread having one big naive love-in! 
You'll have plenty of things to rant about, although some of you may wake up and smell the coffee during this period hopefully 
We shall see, my money says the grass isn't actually greener on the otherside and the worlds going to get pretty crappy before everybodys realises.
