Interesting. The working man's toff!

 

Yes, once described as a man who would be laughing and joking with you as he led you into the football stadium to be shot

I don't trust him one bit - a cynical move imo, that may well backfire on him

 

But strong enough to last? They are already suspending the Shengen agreement when it suits them, threatening to close Greece's border to stop illegal immigrants flowing in to northern Europe. The council appeals for the European states to work together to share out these immigrants, but many member states are refusing. That's hardly working together.

 

Perfect. I like Boris; I think of him as a jocular, bumbling, infectious assassin.

 

The US had a civil war after they gained independence. The things you describe are growing pains and will be worked through.

 

Thx for the consideration, as long as that's it and we stay on topic, its fine

 

Yes, I think like Galloway, not my cup of tea, but its a bit "my enemy's enemy is my friend" time, so welcome Boris

 

Sorry, totally disagree with this - they are not growing pains at all! They are a direct result of the policies in place, and a result of this great group of 'friends' unable to agree on how to fix the problem. (Which is not surprising)

 

Ok, and thank you. That will do on this thread. Rest will be questioned as it comes, on the other thread of yours.

 

Heavens Forbid!!

 

But the EU economy is several times the size of ours, therefore our imports are FAR LESS significant to the EU economy that our exports to them.


Jeez, is that too hard to understand?

 

Is there any chance Boris is angling for the top job somewhere down the line ?!

 

The pounds sliding away .....

 

There's also a ranker.com poll to show how the wider public will be voting!!!

http://www.ranker.com/list/should-br...u-/matthewgill

 

I assume you've limited that poll to eligible voters only (i.e. those who will be eligible to vote in the referendum)...

 

It may be best to stay in EU just in case that ******** Trump is elected and starts WW3, IV and V. Europe will need to stand together as Russian missiles start whistling over the Atlantic.


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I'd like to think I've only shared it on the relevant media outlets; Scoobynet, UKIP Facebook page and TCOC.

 

So, EU is criticised because it leaves us open to immigration. Now it is criticised because it is taking action to stop it! You couldn't make it up. Talk about little Englander attitude



Having your cake and eating it......

 

It's not surprising that 80% of the population want to vote, we have traditionally been 'out of Europe' both physically, and in many ways ideologically. However, from an economic and security viewpoint, we have benefitted.

It's no coincidence that 80% of the members of the CBI are lobbying to stay in. Who do you think knows what is better for our economy, industry heads, or Joe from the pub who hates immigrants?

Also, whilst I do not think that leaving the EU would mean we would start fighting, but it's no coincidence that the longest period of peace in Europe's violent history, has been the same time the EU has been in existence.

 

Jeez right back at you, Mr Dense-Head. The rest of the world's economy is many times larger even than the EU's, and our imports from there must consequently be many times less significant to the rest of the world than our exports to them, yet somehow we still manage to export double the amount outside of the EU than we do to the EU. Right now we already manage to do that, and not at some hypothetical date in the future when members of that non-existant club which comprises the rest of the world might or might not take exception to us choosing to cease being a (non-)member of it, and in reprisal take action that might negatively impact our ability to export to its (non-)members. At what point then are you finally going to stop parroting this completely meaningless and irrelevant statistic? (which I'll emphasize again, you couldn't even cite correctly to begin with!)

Doh, doh and doh some more, if you're still struggling to get that

 

We have the support of many leading businesspeople such as:

John Caudwell, entrepreneur and philanthropist
Joe Foster, Founder, Reebok
Michael Freeman, Co-Founder, Argent Group
Christopher Foyle, Chairman, Foyles & Noved Investment Group
Oliver Hemsley, CEO, Numis Securities
Alexander *****, Managing Partner, C. ***** & Co
Luke Johnson, Chairman, Patisserie Valerie
Lord Kalms, co-founder of Business for Sterling
Crispin Odey, Founding Partner, Odey Asset Management


Vote Leave is also supported by Business for Britain's Board:

Neville Baxter, Director, RH Development
Alan Halsall, former Chairman, Silver Cross
Robert Hiscox, Honorary President, Hiscox Insurance
Daniel Hodson, former Chief Executive, LIFFE
John Hoerner, former Chief Executive of Central European Clothing, Tesco
Brian Kingham, Founder, Reliance Security Group
Jon Moynihan, former Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group


We have established a cross-party Parliamentary Planning Committee to liaise with senior MPs. This group includes:

Steve Baker (Co-Chairman, Conservatives for Britain)
Douglas Carswell (UKIP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Kate Hoey (Co-Chair, Labour Leave)
Kelvin Hopkins (L)
Bernard Jenkin (C)
Owen Paterson (C)
Graham Stringer (L)

Just to name a few.
Oh and the guy down the pub who lives in the real world

 

I didn't say 100%, did I? Of course you were able to quote some names that support out. But the fact remains, 80% of want in.

As for Joe, I refer you to Schrodinger's Immigrant

 

How do you know it's not just coincidence? How could the hypothesis be effectively tested one way or another?

 

It is certainly a massive decision we are being asked to make

People need to really reflect on it

Especially, I would argue, if you are in lower paid employment – it may be worth working out what rights that you have now and currently enjoy (paternity, maternity, holiday, TUPE, agency, part time workers) have been determined by our membership of the EU

If you think people like Farage are keen on keeping these, you may be disappointed

 

Because last time it happened, it was the Pax Romana, which, funnily enough, was a united Europe too.

To be honest, your reply just smacks of desperation, you know full well that economic unity prevents conflict.

 

Open door and over population,can our resources cope? 300,000 net migration and rising.
working/non working benefits for people who haven't paid into the system.

Just a couple of things Joe doesn't like about the EU Immigration polices.
Most Joe's i know just want a fairer Britain.

 

Actually, I don't disagree that unfettered immigration is a problem purely from a logistics point of view, but surely you must see how that meme illustrates the ridiculous xeonphobia of the average Brit?

 

I think the xenophobia thing gets blown out of proportion.
I and i think the average Brit welcome immigration but needs to be controlled.
If we remain in the EU then are borders stay open to anyone in the EU and at the same time discriminate against the rest of commonwealth.

 

it is worth noting that irrespective of the numbers our imports from the EU are heavily weighted to Energy and Food - things which we need

our exports to the EU tend to be discretionary items

 

All of which are internationally viewable websites. As for using the UKIP facebook page to try and get a balanced view of the In/Out referendum