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21 February 2016, 04:57 PM
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21 February 2016, 05:11 PM
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Yes, once described as a man who would be laughing and joking with you as he led you into the football stadium to be shot
I don't trust him one bit - a cynical move imo, that may well backfire on him
I don't trust him one bit - a cynical move imo, that may well backfire on him
21 February 2016, 05:14 PM
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But strong enough to last? They are already suspending the Shengen agreement when it suits them, threatening to close Greece's border to stop illegal immigrants flowing in to northern Europe. The council appeals for the European states to work together to share out these immigrants, but many member states are refusing. That's hardly working together.
21 February 2016, 05:36 PM
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Perfect. I like Boris; I think of him as a jocular, bumbling, infectious assassin.
21 February 2016, 05:38 PM
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But strong enough to last? They are already suspending the Shengen agreement when it suits them, threatening to close Greece's border to stop illegal immigrants flowing in to northern Europe. The council appeals for the European states to work together to share out these immigrants, but many member states are refusing. That's hardly working together.
21 February 2016, 05:50 PM
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21 February 2016, 06:04 PM
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Sorry, totally disagree with this - they are not growing pains at all! They are a direct result of the policies in place, and a result of this great group of 'friends' unable to agree on how to fix the problem. (Which is not surprising)
21 February 2016, 07:18 PM
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Well, if Warren doesn't mind and if you insist.
Christianity supports secular politics (Google 'Render unto Caesar'), it is not an ideology. No Christian is pushing for a theocracy in this life. Just because we Christians want other people to be 'saved' does not mean we do not love them. Indeed it is exactly because we love them that we want them to be saved. If people want to reject Jesus that's their choice, that doesn't mean I want them to suffer in this life or the next.
Christianity supports secular politics (Google 'Render unto Caesar'), it is not an ideology. No Christian is pushing for a theocracy in this life. Just because we Christians want other people to be 'saved' does not mean we do not love them. Indeed it is exactly because we love them that we want them to be saved. If people want to reject Jesus that's their choice, that doesn't mean I want them to suffer in this life or the next.
Ok, and thank you. That will do on this thread. Rest will be questioned as it comes, on the other thread of yours.
21 February 2016, 10:09 PM
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21 February 2016, 10:12 PM
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Your figures are completely out of date and incorrect, and I suspect you deliberately chose to quote the volume of our import trade with the EU as a proportion of their exports rather than as a proportion of our overall imports, so as to give the appearance of our economy being far more dependent on the EU than theirs is on ours.
Starting with some up-to-date figures then:
UK Overseas Trade 2015
Total non-EU exports: £17.1 billion
Total non-EU imports: £14.0 billion
Total EU exports: £10.4 billion
Total EU imports: £17.0 bilion
(source: https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statisti...n-EU_Data.aspx)
To save you doing the maths, this breaks down to trade with the EU accounting for 37.8% of our exports, and 54.8% of our imports.
Just for comparison, Switzerland's trade with the EU makes up 62% and 79% of their exports and imports respectively, which happens to be an exactly identical gap of 17% between the two as ours. Poor old Swiss, they must be in an utter panic
Starting with some up-to-date figures then:
UK Overseas Trade 2015
Total non-EU exports: £17.1 billion
Total non-EU imports: £14.0 billion
Total EU exports: £10.4 billion
Total EU imports: £17.0 bilion
(source: https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statisti...n-EU_Data.aspx)
To save you doing the maths, this breaks down to trade with the EU accounting for 37.8% of our exports, and 54.8% of our imports.
Just for comparison, Switzerland's trade with the EU makes up 62% and 79% of their exports and imports respectively, which happens to be an exactly identical gap of 17% between the two as ours. Poor old Swiss, they must be in an utter panic
But the EU economy is several times the size of ours, therefore our imports are FAR LESS significant to the EU economy that our exports to them.
Jeez, is that too hard to understand?
22 February 2016, 12:07 PM
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There's also a ranker.com poll to show how the wider public will be voting!!!
http://www.ranker.com/list/should-br...u-/matthewgill
http://www.ranker.com/list/should-br...u-/matthewgill
22 February 2016, 12:43 PM
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It may be best to stay in EU just in case that ******** Trump is elected and starts WW3, IV and V. Europe will need to stand together as Russian missiles start whistling over the Atlantic.
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22 February 2016, 12:52 PM
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22 February 2016, 12:54 PM
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But strong enough to last? They are already suspending the Shengen agreement when it suits them, threatening to close Greece's border to stop illegal immigrants flowing in to northern Europe. The council appeals for the European states to work together to share out these immigrants, but many member states are refusing. That's hardly working together.
Having your cake and eating it......
22 February 2016, 01:04 PM
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It's not surprising that 80% of the population want to vote, we have traditionally been 'out of Europe' both physically, and in many ways ideologically. However, from an economic and security viewpoint, we have benefitted.
It's no coincidence that 80% of the members of the CBI are lobbying to stay in. Who do you think knows what is better for our economy, industry heads, or Joe from the pub who hates immigrants?
Also, whilst I do not think that leaving the EU would mean we would start fighting, but it's no coincidence that the longest period of peace in Europe's violent history, has been the same time the EU has been in existence.
It's no coincidence that 80% of the members of the CBI are lobbying to stay in. Who do you think knows what is better for our economy, industry heads, or Joe from the pub who hates immigrants?
Also, whilst I do not think that leaving the EU would mean we would start fighting, but it's no coincidence that the longest period of peace in Europe's violent history, has been the same time the EU has been in existence.
22 February 2016, 01:18 PM
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Doh, doh and doh some more, if you're still struggling to get that
22 February 2016, 01:26 PM
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We have the support of many leading businesspeople such as:
John Caudwell, entrepreneur and philanthropist
Joe Foster, Founder, Reebok
Michael Freeman, Co-Founder, Argent Group
Christopher Foyle, Chairman, Foyles & Noved Investment Group
Oliver Hemsley, CEO, Numis Securities
Alexander *****, Managing Partner, C. ***** & Co
Luke Johnson, Chairman, Patisserie Valerie
Lord Kalms, co-founder of Business for Sterling
Crispin Odey, Founding Partner, Odey Asset Management
Vote Leave is also supported by Business for Britain's Board:
Neville Baxter, Director, RH Development
Alan Halsall, former Chairman, Silver Cross
Robert Hiscox, Honorary President, Hiscox Insurance
Daniel Hodson, former Chief Executive, LIFFE
John Hoerner, former Chief Executive of Central European Clothing, Tesco
Brian Kingham, Founder, Reliance Security Group
Jon Moynihan, former Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
We have established a cross-party Parliamentary Planning Committee to liaise with senior MPs. This group includes:
Steve Baker (Co-Chairman, Conservatives for Britain)
Douglas Carswell (UKIP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Kate Hoey (Co-Chair, Labour Leave)
Kelvin Hopkins (L)
Bernard Jenkin (C)
Owen Paterson (C)
Graham Stringer (L)
Just to name a few.
Oh and the guy down the pub who lives in the real world
22 February 2016, 01:29 PM
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We have the support of many leading businesspeople such as:
John Caudwell, entrepreneur and philanthropist
Joe Foster, Founder, Reebok
Michael Freeman, Co-Founder, Argent Group
Christopher Foyle, Chairman, Foyles & Noved Investment Group
Oliver Hemsley, CEO, Numis Securities
Alexander *****, Managing Partner, C. ***** & Co
Luke Johnson, Chairman, Patisserie Valerie
Lord Kalms, co-founder of Business for Sterling
Crispin Odey, Founding Partner, Odey Asset Management
Vote Leave is also supported by Business for Britain's Board:
Neville Baxter, Director, RH Development
Alan Halsall, former Chairman, Silver Cross
Robert Hiscox, Honorary President, Hiscox Insurance
Daniel Hodson, former Chief Executive, LIFFE
John Hoerner, former Chief Executive of Central European Clothing, Tesco
Brian Kingham, Founder, Reliance Security Group
Jon Moynihan, former Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
We have established a cross-party Parliamentary Planning Committee to liaise with senior MPs. This group includes:
Steve Baker (Co-Chairman, Conservatives for Britain)
Douglas Carswell (UKIP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Kate Hoey (Co-Chair, Labour Leave)
Kelvin Hopkins (L)
Bernard Jenkin (C)
Owen Paterson (C)
Graham Stringer (L)
Just to name a few.
Oh and the guy down the pub who lives in the real world
John Caudwell, entrepreneur and philanthropist
Joe Foster, Founder, Reebok
Michael Freeman, Co-Founder, Argent Group
Christopher Foyle, Chairman, Foyles & Noved Investment Group
Oliver Hemsley, CEO, Numis Securities
Alexander *****, Managing Partner, C. ***** & Co
Luke Johnson, Chairman, Patisserie Valerie
Lord Kalms, co-founder of Business for Sterling
Crispin Odey, Founding Partner, Odey Asset Management
Vote Leave is also supported by Business for Britain's Board:
Neville Baxter, Director, RH Development
Alan Halsall, former Chairman, Silver Cross
Robert Hiscox, Honorary President, Hiscox Insurance
Daniel Hodson, former Chief Executive, LIFFE
John Hoerner, former Chief Executive of Central European Clothing, Tesco
Brian Kingham, Founder, Reliance Security Group
Jon Moynihan, former Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
We have established a cross-party Parliamentary Planning Committee to liaise with senior MPs. This group includes:
Steve Baker (Co-Chairman, Conservatives for Britain)
Douglas Carswell (UKIP)
Nigel Dodds (DUP)
Kate Hoey (Co-Chair, Labour Leave)
Kelvin Hopkins (L)
Bernard Jenkin (C)
Owen Paterson (C)
Graham Stringer (L)
Just to name a few.
Oh and the guy down the pub who lives in the real world
As for Joe, I refer you to Schrodinger's Immigrant
22 February 2016, 01:30 PM
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It's not surprising that 80% of the population want to vote, we have traditionally been 'out of Europe' both physically, and in many ways ideologically. However, from an economic and security viewpoint, we have benefitted.
It's no coincidence that 80% of the members of the CBI are lobbying to stay in. Who do you think knows what is better for our economy, industry heads, or Joe from the pub who hates immigrants?
Also, whilst I do not think that leaving the EU would mean we would start fighting, but it's no coincidence that the longest period of peace in Europe's violent history, has been the same time the EU has been in existence.
It's no coincidence that 80% of the members of the CBI are lobbying to stay in. Who do you think knows what is better for our economy, industry heads, or Joe from the pub who hates immigrants?
Also, whilst I do not think that leaving the EU would mean we would start fighting, but it's no coincidence that the longest period of peace in Europe's violent history, has been the same time the EU has been in existence.
22 February 2016, 01:34 PM
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It is certainly a massive decision we are being asked to make
People need to really reflect on it
Especially, I would argue, if you are in lower paid employment – it may be worth working out what rights that you have now and currently enjoy (paternity, maternity, holiday, TUPE, agency, part time workers) have been determined by our membership of the EU
If you think people like Farage are keen on keeping these, you may be disappointed
People need to really reflect on it
Especially, I would argue, if you are in lower paid employment – it may be worth working out what rights that you have now and currently enjoy (paternity, maternity, holiday, TUPE, agency, part time workers) have been determined by our membership of the EU
If you think people like Farage are keen on keeping these, you may be disappointed
22 February 2016, 01:37 PM
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Because last time it happened, it was the Pax Romana, which, funnily enough, was a united Europe too.
To be honest, your reply just smacks of desperation, you know full well that economic unity prevents conflict.
To be honest, your reply just smacks of desperation, you know full well that economic unity prevents conflict.
22 February 2016, 01:44 PM
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Open door and over population,can our resources cope? 300,000 net migration and rising.
working/non working benefits for people who haven't paid into the system.
Just a couple of things Joe doesn't like about the EU Immigration polices.
Most Joe's i know just want a fairer Britain.
working/non working benefits for people who haven't paid into the system.
Just a couple of things Joe doesn't like about the EU Immigration polices.
Most Joe's i know just want a fairer Britain.
22 February 2016, 01:49 PM
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Open door and over population,can our resources cope? 300,000 net migration and rising.
working/non working benefits for people who haven't paid into the system.
Just a couple of things Joe doesn't like about the EU Immigration polices.
Most Joe's i know just want a fairer Britain.
working/non working benefits for people who haven't paid into the system.
Just a couple of things Joe doesn't like about the EU Immigration polices.
Most Joe's i know just want a fairer Britain.
22 February 2016, 01:59 PM
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I think the xenophobia thing gets blown out of proportion.
I and i think the average Brit welcome immigration but needs to be controlled.
If we remain in the EU then are borders stay open to anyone in the EU and at the same time discriminate against the rest of commonwealth.
I and i think the average Brit welcome immigration but needs to be controlled.
If we remain in the EU then are borders stay open to anyone in the EU and at the same time discriminate against the rest of commonwealth.
22 February 2016, 03:13 PM
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Jeez right back at you, Mr Dense-Head. The rest of the world's economy is many times larger even than the EU's, and our imports from there must consequently be many times less significant to the rest of the world than our exports to them, yet somehow we still manage to export double the amount outside of the EU than we do to the EU. Right now we already manage to do that, and not at some hypothetical date in the future when members of that non-existant club which comprises the rest of the world might or might not take exception to us choosing to cease being a (non-)member of it, and in reprisal take action that might negatively impact our ability to export to its (non-)members. At what point then are you finally going to stop parroting this completely meaningless and irrelevant statistic? (which I'll emphasize again, you couldn't even cite correctly to begin with!)
Doh, doh and doh some more, if you're still struggling to get that
Doh, doh and doh some more, if you're still struggling to get that
our exports to the EU tend to be discretionary items
22 February 2016, 04:52 PM
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