Turbohot

Yes, but all these company moves and job losses aren't in the interest of the Brexiteers. Having foreigners on British land is far worse for them. How one can cut one's nose to spite their ugly face has been blatantly displayed by the Brexit supportive vote in our Wales alone, hodgy. Ignorance had been beyond belief this end.

Now, if you excuse me for using Mr. frog face delirious F's line: Who's laughing now, when we have become aware that in order to keep our trade with the EU, we may have to comply with their free movement related and other rules. Well done, Brexiteers.


Are you sure, DD? To my understanding, the countries full of pakis and foreigners are only good for cheap holidays, the rich oil sourcing ones of the sort are good for earning some serious opportunistic cash, and that's about it. British are superior in every way possible, you should know that. British actually do a favour to them by visiting and setting in such countries, because this way they help those countries' economy, and never you dare mention that they help their own pocket. Superiority to the point that their English language MUST be spoken in advance by every visitor and a wannabe settler, but even their host country in any shape or form MUST know our Britons' English. Britain first and Britain First; the world's most wellard country - end of.

andy97

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It's all supposition at moment. EU are just stating their position now, doesnt mean it will end at that. Long way down the line. If EU refuses to budge then WTO will come into force.

More importantly is the next 2 years to see If EUsurvives Italian election, French election and Germans election. Not to mention whether Greece needs a third bailout.

hodgy0_2

quite

a farce really

Farage is a small man who happened upon a large soapbox

and plenty of people will pay with jobs/livelihoods in the next few years

sacrificed on the alter of his ego

legb4rsk

Well you lot are still listening to & placing some kind of varacity on what politicians & eurocrats are speculating.

Will you never learn. Follow the money!!!!

Geezer

Which we will be obliged to contribute to, as Cameron's concessions are no longer valid because we voted to Leave. Oh the irony! Brexiters whined about having to bail out Greece, and because of them, we may well have to, but wouldn't have if we had stayed!

hodgy0_2

I do not think it as simple as that

To the EU the free trade deal is inextricably linked to free movement - for all sorts of legal and contractual reasons

BMW can say what they like (not that they will necessarily) - but it will be EU politicians that decide

it would be like trying to change to driving on the right side of the road, but only for Buses and Taxis

no amount of rocking up with a big "wad" will change that

it really is that simple

andy97

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Nothing has changed until the trigger is pulled. Also UK opted out from further bailouts. Last bailout was structured essentially as a loan.

I just remembered a radio program where the speaker was likening the behaviour of people when something happens against their will. They become a victim and exhibit a victims behaviour.

Firstly shock, disbelief. Then hysteria. Followed by blame.

The people who followed remain are behaving like a victim, apart from those with the mental fortitude to realise it's happened.

Devildog

Not sure if its been posted yet, but for those in need of a bit of light relief - this should do the job. Turn the sound up


http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/06/29/...hnsons-bunker/

hodgy0_2

that is simply wrong

the first act of the EU was to withdraw the deal negotiated with the UK

hodgy0_2

lol, "victim"

WRXrowdy

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dpb

for madscoob

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ruit-outsiders


they probably don't do healthcare either , but youll be free that pesky migrant competition

madscoob

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if that was ment to be funny it's in very poor taste in light of my sons problems. if i could earn enough to pay my/our own way then i would gladly,
how ever when you work for a company led by a greedy ******* who took £1916000 in shares then sold them and only paid 20% tax last year but didn't have enough to give his staff a decent payrise. you can take joy from the fact that the shares he now own's are only worth 62p each instead of £2.35 i have been watcing them drop all day with a ever increasing SMILE and please don't mention being made redundant i have allready worked it out i would be better off surfing the platform of life instead of being the wax on a surfboard

hodgy0_2

Pay inequality is an issue throughout the world

Have you wondered how the UK compares to the rest of Europe - in terms of pay gap

Is the UK at the top do you think? if it is do you think leaving the EU will change that?

Have you looked at what the EU says about Executive pay (and the pay gap)

madscoob

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1 it probably is top, i remember reading in a engineering mag at work about the italian md who tryed to live on his workers wages for a month, he lasted less than a week and then gave them all a 20% payrise
2 if the can't import cheep labour then maybe just maybe.
the point i was trying to make about greed is
if we all had more wages we would SPEND it with the companies that are paying it, maybe not directly but as they are all customers of each other we would indirectly, unlike the fatcats at the top whu just squirrel it away and never spend it, just leaving it to their kids to take over,
there is only one reason big buisness wanted to stay in the eu as more poor countries join so do more poor people to rim over for cheep labour,
just again was it ment to be funny ?

Turbohot

LOL+1.

I heard a radio programme where the delusional perpetrator believes that he/she has done a massive favour to the masses all around; by pushing them (and self) into a black hole. In more words, He/she blatantly uses selective ignorance to acknowledge the important most issues, and blatantly declines to admit to his/her mistake/s that can potentially cause some serious damage to his/her fellow beings.

Turbohot

You really are a lucky chappy because Warren has left. Otherwise, he would have virtually bitten your virtual head for that

madscoob

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no one seen the news then ftse closed at pre brexit level today,
all the negative propaganda and still deep pockets have been lined some more and the sheeple swallow it up

Paben

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And are you pleased or bitter? Or perhaps both?

hodgy0_2

I suspect your right, and I if I really really thought that a vote to leave would reverse that I would have voted leave

But I don't and it won't

As an aside do you know that the UK is the only country in the EU that allows Zero hours contracts - edit I think I am wrong about that, but we certainly have the highest in Europe

andy97

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I am getting a sense that the EU is keen to see the back of the UK.

Coming out are rumblings of further EU integration, non Euro countries being forced to take the Euro and the European army.

I think Germany sees its chance to create the superstate. Lets see if the eastern EU block countries want to be part of it?

madscoob

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double pleased actually as our lot never recovered still 62p a share from £2.37 in april this year, down a glorious 56.5% in just one day
for years 7 actually no payrise for us but more directors than you can shake a stick at, i learnt today we still have a hr director with only 2 members of staff under her you couldn't make it up
big buisness is like goverment lots of big pockets to line but sadly for them running out of people to line them for them
i am not a religous person but may pray soon for redundancy as i am ****ed off earning £7.86 per hour after making the company almost £250k profit last year without even so much as a well done or thank you,

WRXrowdy

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Ohh . . . I am virtually shatting myself

Turbohot

WRXrowdy

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Germany have some large companies over here, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Mini . . . Germany said they and the rest of Europe will be sorry to see Britain leave, but need to hurry up and do it. The uncertainty will hurt Europe as it will Britain.

Paben

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Sadly it's a common enough problem and I can see why you're bitter, that must be difficult to make ends meet. Perhaps be careful what you pray for though!

madscoob

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i sadly bothered to work it out about 3 months ago only £72.40 a month better off working so if made redundant i would actually be better off credit card payed off and gone, then just lose sky tv and no worse off,
sadly i cant just do what cameron did and jack it in as you cant claim, i left school at 15 now 50 and never been out of work or claimed, but if you jack you cant claim for 6months, so would need to save up 6months worth of bills money and that aint never gonna happen on £7.86 a hour and dont you think big buisness and the goverment know that

hodgy0_2

There are few winners in this tbh

Some cityboyz and speculators - a few politicians (although their victory will be pyrrhic)

Oh and Lawyers

dpb

i hope youre right madscoob - and it all improves for you now were out.

madscoob

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corperations are just using countries like companies use county councils.
move in promise to employ loads of staff claim reduced council tax and as many grants as possible(it happen in cornwall and wales) then as soon as the rent/buisness rates goes up move on to the next victim,
it companies have done this for years all the way from london to wales, i do wonder how much longer it will continue probably untill someone wakes up and smells the coffee after removing the wool from their eyes