interesting viewing from a american with no agenda explains a lot actually
any remainers need to watch this
if you cant be arsed skip to 34mins for enlightenment on big buisness

 

It was mentioned earlier today. It won't be the end of it though. The panic may slow a little, but the downward trend will continue over the next months unless the markets gain confidence that Brexit won't happen. If they do gain confidence and then Brexit does happen, then you can expect the mother of all crashes!

 

Yes I read that that markets had stabilised on the little part of the internet called the BBC

Up and downs on the markets are just froth - they mean nothing and just describe cityboyz making money

Meanwhile in the reality based universe we have lost our triple A credit rating

That will effect everyone in the UK

 

Well, Angie has been on the telly tonight saying there will be no special deal for the UK. She said we can have a Norway deal if we want, but that only comes with freedom of movement! The Lady's not for turning!

So there goes your German car argument up the river without a paddle with the rest of the Leave campaigns arguments!

 

It's been on the BBC News and Sky all day long!

Take your head out your backside😀

 

The most likely result is going to be a payment for access deal, that's my guess anyway.

 

Thing is when I hear a young woman phone a radio station and say i was really disappointed by the vote when I heard the results the next day.I didn't go and vote because it was my birthday party,well what's more important sweetheart.
That vote would have counted towards a remain vote..

 

what is fascinating about this post is that when all else fails

when you run out of all rational argument - when you are digging the depths of sanity

you go full metal conspritard


this video is from a website called "the mind renewed" .com

http://themindrenewed.com/

it is your stock batsh1t conspiracy website, new world order type stuff, creationism - who knows

I really can't be bothered to delve any deeper

and that about sum all this up - you get it with climate change deniers, when they run out of arguments

well its all a conspiracy!!!

I feel so desperately sad that we have truly shot ourselves in the foot

we had THE best deal in the EU, no question - but no - because of an internal bitch fest in the Tory party we have literally changed the world - for the worse

people WILL lose jobs and business and houses

that is the TRUE conspiracy

 

great - cool story

address the point of my post

 

oh and sadly I did delve

from the website

"Did God really create the world in six days? Or is the Bible actually saying something subtly different? Did God make Eve from Adam's rib? Or is that a misreading of the text? To discuss these and other absorbing questions arising from his fascinating-yet-controversial book, The Lost World of Adam and Eve, we are joined by Dr. John H. Walton, Professor of Old Testament..."



I literally could cry

 

Isn't the irony here a madscoob that provision for your son could well be cut now , even ids ran away from that department , or do you believe any more austerity is just a rouse to make the rich richer

 

conspiracy it maybe but it does make a lot of logical reason. do you believe everything you read in the media,
just for a laugh try finding out how much goldman sach gave to the remain camp

 

Madscoob, research my posts on Goldman Sachs and the banking elite

Of which I have made many

 

On Newsnight just now they where talking to the eminent economist Gillian Tett (apologies some of you because she's an expert, so close your eyes and repeat a slogan to negate having to think). She had a pretty gloomy view of our mid to long-term economic prospects.
Basically we need our government to get to grips with this pronto as 3 months of drift is going to be incredibly damaging.
Chillingly she described the vote as an astonishing act of self harm.

 

The website crashed and was given more time for people to register,sounds fair to me,didn't have a problem with it being extended a further day or so.
Whether remain won the vote or brexit did,I don't think it should be contested or threats of blocking.But what warren does is up to him,I certainly wouldn't have been worried about it,but from what you say,Warren thought different.

 

Don't forget those dreaded pencils!

If Remain had won we'd of been in for weeks of conspiracy clap-trap

 

I dare say you're right about that,the pencil issue is a big one.😁

 

there is of course a easy answer to the in out problem,
leave scotland in and just use them as a way of free trading with the eu
while remaining FREE ourselves
that way the rich n well healed get access to their beloved mercs n bmw's
and as a added bonus we wouldn't need to pay extra so they can have free perscriptions and free uni education
SORTED or is that to much common sense

 

Spoken like someone who either truly doesn't care what the consequences are going to be, or is desparately trying to convince themselves that someone somewhere is going to find some miracle way out of the atrocious stinking pile of poo them and their ilk have landed us all in, just so they can get a decent night's sleep tonight.

.. or maybe you really believe the complete and utter b****cks you're spouting. Forget the Switzerland or Norway option, let's have madscoob's in, out, shake it all about deal instead

 

Harebrained I think you call it

 

Has anyone checked the value of their pension pot since the referendum?
I got a bit of a shock when I checked mine.

 

Yes I saw that Martin

And you can see how the narrative will go, so that we can carry on getting inward investment to offset the negative economic headwinds and remain "competitive"

I already hear it being said in interviews

Workforce Flexibility (I won't insult your intelligence explaining what that ACTUALLY means)

Still I here that the headline on the Express blames the EU,

plus ce change

 

Thanks DYK, and I agree with all the above

 

This little sound bite encapsulates the EUs attitude towards the UK and I suspect the rest of the European countries, who stand up and challenge the EU

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/684...rew-castle-lbc

 

How naive are you, really?

 

I was pretty much all for out at the start so had to look at the issues raised and what I thought about them.

Not for immigration as it doesn't really affect me living in West Wales although I have had conversation with people over whole streets being polish or a school in Birmingham where English is the minority first language and kids that turn not able to speak English.

Not for the money we pay/paid to the EU. I accept that it's how it works - you pay money and get some back. A little like paying income tax and yet getting tax credits back. I read the reasons why this happens rather than just paying a lower tax to begin with.

Not for freeing up bureaucracy because a government won't help itself but fill the gap with more bureaucracy.

I live in West Wales that has received lots of EU funding and one of the few genuine facts from the referendum was that Wales receives a net benefit from being in the EU.

The final decision for me was made by the Liverpool lecturer. We couldn't trust him because his University was EU funded.

Well, if a fireman tells you not to burn your house down do you believe what he says? If you do as he tells you, he's out of a job.

So I voted remain.

What drives me insane now is that we are out and yet no one has a plan.

Anyone that posts anything positive on any EU thread on any forum gets shout down or ridiculed. I know a few on here frequent OCUK and the Brexit thread there I've had to step away from. Every positive, every attempt at suggestion of a plan or how to move forward positively is met with scorn and slagging each other off.

Not one forum has a Brexit thread that has a meaningful, positive debate.

 

Thanks Edd

and yes that was very telling of Warren - when you don't like the facts simply claim conspiracy

no wonder he is an arch climate change denier - they do the same!!

re the Foreign enclave bit - yes I agree, but one must point out we have always had these to a certain extent, especially in Birmingham, London and Manchester - and of course Europe has the same in reverse as anyone who has been to Spain can attest

anyway - all the best

 

Clearly far less naive than you!

EU referendum: German carmakers warn on free movement

Nobody wants tariffs, but nobody is going to stop selling the UK stuff if there are tariffs!

Airbus have stated they will review their future in the UK. HSBC have stated they will move their European investment business to Paris. Now Vodafone are also making plans to move their HQ to the continent!
Vodafone could move London HQ outside UK post-Brexit

Together that's tens of thousands of jobs under threat if we don't have full access to the single market! That's just the tip of the iceberg! Businesses are nervous about the future viability of operating in the UK. Those who's core business depends on access to the single market will move out if there is no agreement to keep full access to the single market. The longer the decision is delayed, the more likely companies are to pull the plug anyway to mitigate the risk!

 

The City is in panic mode as its one of the top financial districts in the world and that will all come crashing down once article 50 is triggered

 

That puts my son's job at risk. Not just him, but thousands of Airbus employees will become jobless if that happens.

Oh, well. As long as the foreigners are out of this country- a porkie pie sold to the Brexiteer voters, that's all that matters.