It was happening in 2014. Any phone repair technician worth his salt would know that. Some are greedy and took a chance and it worked sometimes, for a while.

Now the only people that care are the pitchfork slingers, bored old men with nothing better to do than bitch about a problem they don't and won't have.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5923802/watch-ha...-three-minutes

No problem. It wasn't just BMW, it was several high end manufacturers that offer key-less entry. You need to search for BMW OBD theft, there's videos and everything

 

Jack , iv had look at the official time to change that battery - 15 minutes

youre on 200 quid an hour . Why wouldn't ANYONE want not to save that sort of wedge

 

Initially no but whats their excuse now as they are mostly all still doing it local to me they are anyway

 

You crack on, this time next year you'll be a millionaire.

 

So could BMW, keys worked fine without codes.

 

You'd think they'd read the internet, I won't change a screen for that exact reason and I'm far from a phone repair bloke.

This isn't a new error, somehow some people - who knows how many this is the internet - had the error show after an update, perhaps the Touch ID was off then turned on by the update, who knows, others have seen it since 2014.

Shops should know not to mess Touch ID, full stop. Just as there are plenty of parts you wouldn't replace in any phones - rip off a chip, any chip - there are components that should't be ripped off the iPhone.

 

yes I get all that

it seems that very few people though (and I am including Apple here) actually know what the problem is

or whether "we" have multiple issues giving a similar error, and there is a certain amount of "conflation" going on

 

You're right, very few people here understand the problem, luckily there are a few here that are trying to help people to understand.

Error 53 is a hardware error it's listed here https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204770 in this case the hardware error is unmatched Touch ID and Secure Enclave a match which is made during production of those two components by Apple. It's made very clear to anyone who looks in some detail at repairing these devices that they are a pair and should not be miss matched.

Ever put mismatched memory in your computer and Windows won't boot? Some people are trying to insist that that's Microsoft's fault and why should you buy a matched pair when you have two that look the same.

 

1) yes
2) no

next question

 

That is entirely different to what you said:
Your link is completely and entirely about criminal theft where entry to the car is gained illegally and forcefully so that the thief can connect a device to the car's OBD port. It has absolutely nothing to do with a court judgement to force BMW make available software to reprogram blank key fobs resulting in car thefts. Technically, breaking into a car is not classed as "making the software available to everyone". Just so we're clear, replacement of the Touch ID module does not result in an ability for anyone, thief or otherwise, to unlock an iPhone with anyone's finger print.

 

You're right'ish there Jon, I cant imagine that happening but I can imagine the egg on your face if it does. Not worth the risk.

 

Thatcham beg to differ. As for the example being entirely different to what I said, no it isn't.

 

Well if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and will happily accept it. I'm not the one who professed that Touch ID was fantastically secure, so if it does prove the case, then it's egg on your face with a hot serving of rotten Apple filled humble pie.

 

If anyone here running a Windows PC installed new hardware on it that worked fine for a whole year, and then only stopped working after they upgraded to a new version of Windows, would you or would you not be of the opinion there was something wrong with that new version of Windows?

 

Well I stand corrected. Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.

 

do you even know how much you earn each year ?

 

wow .. taking the poorly thought out comparisons and applying logic .. you're not going to win though mate, Apple is god.

As for paired memory, welcome to 1994 ..

 

yes a poor example/comparison, thankfully put to the sword

 

I've always called it what it is, more secure.

 

It could definitely happen with a new version of Windows. Why the whole year though? As with the iPhone's this could have happened any time, maybe it's triggered by reboots which could be from a day to years with both.

 

I'm not sure there is a tool. If you go in with a broken Touch ID I'm pretty sure you'll walk out with a new iPhone.

 

The problem is just because people don't anticipate it, doesn't mean it can't happen. I doubt anyone at BMW figured it would go as badly as it did when the key programming software was released but there's always someone trying to find a way to take what you've got.

 

3) Have you been caught out by getting a cheap repair which has resulted in your phone being bricked?


4) Do you back up your data?

 

Well it wasn't BMW's fault, it was the EU, that's it vote out!

 

EFA

 

The chips are not made in China if you're going for accuracy. Assembly, correct apart from the sweatshop bit.

 

I doubt working conditions have become much better since this report
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30532463
Maybe they are sleeping now cause of nothing to assemble with apple cutting 30% production.

 

You know what you don't get for cheaper? Better working conditions. Now go try to **** on Samsungs bonfire.

 

I'd like to nominate this thread for the 2016 awards.