Apple ruining small businesses
11 February 2016, 03:52 PM
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Now the only people that care are the pitchfork slingers, bored old men with nothing better to do than bitch about a problem they don't and won't have.
11 February 2016, 04:30 PM
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Neil, could post up your source where courts ruled where BMW were made to make public it's software code for cloning keys which resulted in an increase of theft of BMW cars? All I can find are articles describing how car thieves were intercepting the signal from key fob to the car and cloning that signal to blank keys. Also this method of theft was not isolated to just BMW.
No problem. It wasn't just BMW, it was several high end manufacturers that offer key-less entry. You need to search for BMW OBD theft, there's videos and everything
11 February 2016, 04:55 PM
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Jack , iv had look at the official time to change that battery - 15 minutes
youre on 200 quid an hour . Why wouldn't ANYONE want not to save that sort of wedge
youre on 200 quid an hour . Why wouldn't ANYONE want not to save that sort of wedge
11 February 2016, 06:19 PM
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11 February 2016, 06:22 PM
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11 February 2016, 06:34 PM
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This isn't a new error, somehow some people - who knows how many this is the internet - had the error show after an update, perhaps the Touch ID was off then turned on by the update, who knows, others have seen it since 2014.
Shops should know not to mess Touch ID, full stop. Just as there are plenty of parts you wouldn't replace in any phones - rip off a chip, any chip - there are components that should't be ripped off the iPhone.
11 February 2016, 06:40 PM
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You'd think they'd read the internet, I won't change a screen for that exact reason and I'm far from a phone repair bloke.
This isn't a new error, somehow some people - who knows how many this is the internet - had the error show after an update, perhaps the Touch ID was off then turned on by the update, who knows, others have seen it since 2014.
Shops should know not to mess Touch ID, full stop. Just as there are plenty of parts you wouldn't replace in any phones - rip off a chip, any chip - there are components that should't be ripped off the iPhone.
This isn't a new error, somehow some people - who knows how many this is the internet - had the error show after an update, perhaps the Touch ID was off then turned on by the update, who knows, others have seen it since 2014.
Shops should know not to mess Touch ID, full stop. Just as there are plenty of parts you wouldn't replace in any phones - rip off a chip, any chip - there are components that should't be ripped off the iPhone.
it seems that very few people though (and I am including Apple here) actually know what the problem is
or whether "we" have multiple issues giving a similar error, and there is a certain amount of "conflation" going on
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11 February 2016, 06:50 PM
#189
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Error 53 is a hardware error it's listed here https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204770 in this case the hardware error is unmatched Touch ID and Secure Enclave a match which is made during production of those two components by Apple. It's made very clear to anyone who looks in some detail at repairing these devices that they are a pair and should not be miss matched.
Ever put mismatched memory in your computer and Windows won't boot? Some people are trying to insist that that's Microsoft's fault and why should you buy a matched pair when you have two that look the same.
11 February 2016, 07:04 PM
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http://jalopnik.com/5923802/watch-ha...-three-minutes
No problem. It wasn't just BMW, it was several high end manufacturers that offer key-less entry. You need to search for BMW OBD theft, there's videos and everything
No problem. It wasn't just BMW, it was several high end manufacturers that offer key-less entry. You need to search for BMW OBD theft, there's videos and everything
To be honest this is starting to feel like a similar argument that involved BMW. The big bad multinational was taken to court (and lost) because only main dealers were allowed access to the software to program replacement key fobs. It was decreed in court that BMW had to make this software available to everyone. Then lo and behold BMWs were being stolen left right and center by people using home made replacement key fobs.
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11 February 2016, 07:50 PM
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That is entirely different to what you said:
Your link is completely and entirely about criminal theft where entry to the car is gained illegally and forcefully so that the thief can connect a device to the car's OBD port. It has absolutely nothing to do with a court judgement to force BMW make available software to reprogram blank key fobs resulting in car thefts. Technically, breaking into a car is not classed as "making the software available to everyone". Just so we're clear, replacement of the Touch ID module does not result in an ability for anyone, thief or otherwise, to unlock an iPhone with anyone's finger print.
Your link is completely and entirely about criminal theft where entry to the car is gained illegally and forcefully so that the thief can connect a device to the car's OBD port. It has absolutely nothing to do with a court judgement to force BMW make available software to reprogram blank key fobs resulting in car thefts. Technically, breaking into a car is not classed as "making the software available to everyone". Just so we're clear, replacement of the Touch ID module does not result in an ability for anyone, thief or otherwise, to unlock an iPhone with anyone's finger print.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/602...-hi-tech-theft
Thatcham, the motor insurance repair research centre, told us that the problem isn’t unique to BMW and could affect other cars. However, it laid part of the blame at EU competition regulations that insist that the car company’s hi-tech kit is made available to independent operators as well as franchised dealers.
Thatcham, the motor insurance repair research centre, told us that the problem isn’t unique to BMW and could affect other cars. However, it laid part of the blame at EU competition regulations that insist that the car company’s hi-tech kit is made available to independent operators as well as franchised dealers.
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11 February 2016, 07:53 PM
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11 February 2016, 07:53 PM
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If anyone here running a Windows PC installed new hardware on it that worked fine for a whole year, and then only stopped working after they upgraded to a new version of Windows, would you or would you not be of the opinion there was something wrong with that new version of Windows?
11 February 2016, 08:19 PM
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Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.
11 February 2016, 09:04 PM
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If anyone here running a Windows PC installed new hardware on it that worked fine for a whole year, and then only stopped working after they upgraded to a new version of Windows, would you or would you not be of the opinion there was something wrong with that new version of Windows?
As for paired memory, welcome to 1994 ..
11 February 2016, 09:37 PM
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I've always called it what it is, more secure.
11 February 2016, 09:44 PM
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If anyone here running a Windows PC installed new hardware on it that worked fine for a whole year, and then only stopped working after they upgraded to a new version of Windows, would you or would you not be of the opinion there was something wrong with that new version of Windows?
11 February 2016, 09:48 PM
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Well I stand corrected. Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.
Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.
12 February 2016, 08:56 AM
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Well I stand corrected. Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.
Though I think now this issue goes beyond just a third party repair. But like I said, a third party repair will not result in malicious access to your iPhone data and Apple Pay from what I understand. I could be wrong, whilst the tool will sync the touch ID to the secure enclave, you still won't have access unless you know the passcode and the your fingerprint matches that stored in the secure enclave.
12 February 2016, 09:26 AM
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12 February 2016, 10:50 AM
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12 February 2016, 12:05 PM
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You're right, very few people here understand the problem, luckily there are a few here that are trying to help people to understand.
Error 53 is a hardware error it's listed here https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204770 in this case the hardware error is unmatched Touch ID and Secure Enclave a match which is made during production of those two components by a chinese sweat shop subcontracted out by Apple. It's made very clear to anyone who looks in some detail at repairing these devices that they are a pair and should not be miss matched.
Ever put mismatched memory in your computer and Windows won't boot? Some people are trying to insist that that's Microsoft's fault and why should you buy a matched pair when you have two that look the same.
Error 53 is a hardware error it's listed here https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204770 in this case the hardware error is unmatched Touch ID and Secure Enclave a match which is made during production of those two components by a chinese sweat shop subcontracted out by Apple. It's made very clear to anyone who looks in some detail at repairing these devices that they are a pair and should not be miss matched.
Ever put mismatched memory in your computer and Windows won't boot? Some people are trying to insist that that's Microsoft's fault and why should you buy a matched pair when you have two that look the same.
12 February 2016, 01:42 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30532463
Maybe they are sleeping now cause of nothing to assemble with apple cutting 30% production.
