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Old 03 October 2016, 11:17 PM
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very taxing stuff that...


That looks like another operating system, is this the same device? You're not selling it very well.
Old 03 October 2016, 11:31 PM
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That looks awful, like two old operating systems on one phone. Google have the right idea, make it more like Apple. When are you getting the latest version, it's been out for months. Side note, more people are using iOS 10 than iOS 9, that's after a couple of weeks.
With all the 'new' features on iOS10 which I am used to for a few years dont think I am missing out Jack, but whatever makes you happy.

Considering Apple make the phone and the OS I would be pretty pissed if I did not get updates on an iPhone if and when the are released, as you know Samsung run a OS owned by Google. Not that Samsung are too bothered....

The S7 gets rave reviews everywhere it seems, the top selling phone of the year no less, not bad for a terrible display Jack.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...today-645440/3

Apple Had Three Consecutive Quarters of Slowing Demand as Sales Declined 7.7 Percent

Q1 2016 Smartphone Sales – Samsung Crushed Apple
April 21, 2016 - Written By David Steele


Samsung's Q2 2016 Is Best Quarter In Two Years: $7Bn Profit - Galaxy S7 & S7 EDGE Responsible

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Old 03 October 2016, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
That looks like another operating system, is this the same device? You're not selling it very well.
again, for an iSheep in the constrained environment of Apple its too much, You would not want to venture into the settings.
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
With all the 'new' features on iOS10 which I am used to for a few years dont think I am missing out Jack, but whatever makes you happy.

Considering Apple make the phone and the OS I would be pretty pissed if I did not get updates on an iPhone if and when the are released, as you know Samsung run a OS owned by Google. Not that Samsung are too bothered....

The S7 gets rave reviews everywhere it seems, the top selling phone of the year no less, not bad for a terrible display Jack.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...today-645440/3

Apple Had Three Consecutive Quarters of Slowing Demand as Sales Declined 7.7 Percent

Q1 2016 Smartphone Sales – Samsung Crushed Apple
April 21, 2016 - Written By David Steele


Samsung's Q2 2016 Is Best Quarter In Two Years: $7Bn Profit - Galaxy S7 & S7 EDGE Responsible
I'd be careful quoting Samsung profit, I know you're a bit forgetful but they just burnt a few quid not quality testing their devices well enough. It's a hot topic right now. $14bn off the share price and the cost of replacing a million devices, not good.

You're right about iPhone sales declining, Apple make a long lasting prouduct, look at how last years iPhone trounces this years Samsung in real world tests, even I don't have a need to upgrade just yet. Although I'd love 3d touch, I have doubts you'll ever see that, if Samsung do manage to make something similar then can you imagine the thick layer of software they'd have to add to Android and you know how their software isn't exactly great.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I'd be careful quoting Samsung profit, I know you're a bit forgetful but they just burnt a few quid not quality testing their devices well enough. It's a hot topic right now. $14bn off the share price and the cost of replacing a million devices, not good.

You're right about iPhone sales declining, Apple make a long lasting prouduct, look at how last years iPhone trounces this years Samsung in real world tests, even I don't have a need to upgrade just yet. Although I'd love 3d touch, I have doubts you'll ever see that, if Samsung do manage to make something similar then can you imagine the thick layer of software they'd have to add to Android and you know how their software isn't exactly great.
shur you never doubt Apple Jack, trying to get you to go against them is an impossible task. You went on about the Samsung smart watch, with its 2 x battery and 'terrible' performance or whatnot, I guess all the other smart watches (also with larger batteries than Apple incidentally), are also terrible eh.

Take the Galaxy S7 Edge, clearly an awesome phone, with an incredible camera, all the millions who purchased these devcies and have made it the top phone of 2016 cant be wrong and I would tend to take their advice over your rose tinted view.

iPhone sales are in decline, people are wising onto the fact that Apple make decent devices but for the most part are over priced for what they are.

considering only 4% of so of fanboys who bought iPhones earlier this year bought apple watches, Apple have their work cut out in this area too to make more growth.

I love the way you go on about trouncing Samsung in real world test. Don't see much 'trouncing' going on here.




grated the iPhone 7 is faster but mostly in single core as opposed to multi core tests and even then is has the tendency to sound like a snake under heavy load.

Apple iPhone 7 and 7 Plus owners have reported a strange hissing sound emanating from their new devices.

The sound, which is similar to the noise you hear when a speaker is poorly connected, could be caused by the new chip in the devices, which is designed to make the phones faster with improved battery efficiency.



American podcaster Stephen Hackett first noted the noise, discovering a sibilant sound coming from the back of the iPhone under heavy usage.

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gosh my year old 6s does well !

do Samsung owners really ave to cope with no 3d touch !?
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You might want to check your bed before you lie in it.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...ung+s7+hissing

Now, I'd say these were edge cases and not worth mentioning, but you as a committed Fandroid just have to jump on the hate train.
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Originally Posted by dpb
gosh my year old 6s does well !

do Samsung owners really ave to cope with no 3d touch !?
And that's only on Multicore, your year old iPhone trounces the latest Samsungs in single core which is far more important. The latest is twice as fast in both and as Samsung and the others are using off the shelf components there's a chance they'll never catch up.

They don't have 3d touch nor a Taptic Engine, I used an S7 edge last week for a while - had to move to my iPad as my friend couldn't use it to order a calendar and neither could I, unsupported browser I think - it had a pretty nasty vibration every time you touched it, same vibration every time, horrible.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
And that's only on Multicore, your year old iPhone trounces the latest Samsungs in single core which is far more important. The latest is twice as fast in both and as Samsung and the others are using off the shelf components there's a chance they'll never catch up.

They don't have 3d touch nor a Taptic Engine, I used an S7 edge last week for a while - had to move to my iPad as my friend couldn't use it to order a calendar and neither could I, unsupported browser I think - it had a pretty nasty vibration every time you touched it, same vibration every time, horrible.
Couldn't order a calendar lol.
Stick to the iphones jack.
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Couldn't order a calendar lol.
Stick to the iphones jack.
We did, it was Moonpig if you want to try, I don't think they like Samsung's. Maybe it was a security issue, I see you have anti malware software on your phone and I don't blame you, Android is a cess pit.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
We did, it was Moonpig if you want to try, I don't think they like Samsung's. Maybe it was a security issue, I see you have anti malware software on your phone and I don't blame you, Android is a cess pit.
Lolz. A cesspit... clearly the case alright with almost global domination in smartphones. Billions are left bankrupt after owning androids.

Apple will be proud in the isheep fanatic they have in you. They should hire you up.
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
Lolz. A cesspit... clearly the case alright with almost global domination in smartphones. Billions are left bankrupt after owning androids.

Apple will be proud in the isheep fanatic they have in you. They should hire you up.
TP, the bit I don't get is the contstant reference to isheep.

Owning an apple product places you clearly in the minority. Whether that's a pc or a smartphone. On that measure, android users exhibit far greater sheep behavioral characteristics than apple users do. So why are apple users sheep when android users are not?

The other bit I don't get is your obsession with forcing your point on this when no one really cares and Jack is just stringing you along, but I'll put that down to adult asburgers (I have a friend who has this and he exhibits the same symptoms). Why the obsession?

Of course I wouldn't expect someone with asburgers to be able to rationalise so i doubt I'll get reasoned comment from you to either of those questions, but lets see
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You got my number, he's the best entertainment we've had here in years,
I feel a bit bad now I know he's challenged and will back off a bit.
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DD, I think i know why this continues.....it is because of all the custard pie..... it is the closest thing they both will ever get to pie in real life so they are getting as much as they can right now
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my ipad 2 is pants what should i do?

tbh im on an s6 and with updates i can tell thats slowing, lagging. friend has a ip6 its quite big, looks good. bad thing with apple products is the cost, if i moved back to apple it would be different and like getting a new phone, when i had ip3-4-5 it was like never really upgrading as most of it looked the same

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Buy another, my old Mum can get away with using my cast off iPad 2 but at the end of the day it's 6 years old, that's staggering for a mobile device.
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
DD, I think i know why this continues.....it is because of all the custard pie..... it is the closest thing they both will ever get to pie in real life so they are getting as much as they can right now
Given the amount of steps TP does he should really ease off the pie, but if he keep begging I'll keep throwing.
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Originally Posted by Devildog
TP, the bit I don't get is the contstant reference to isheep.

Owning an apple product places you clearly in the minority. Whether that's a pc or a smartphone. On that measure, android users exhibit far greater sheep behavioral characteristics than apple users do. So why are apple users sheep when android users are not?

The other bit I don't get is your obsession with forcing your point on this when no one really cares and Jack is just stringing you along, but I'll put that down to adult asburgers (I have a friend who has this and he exhibits the same symptoms). Why the obsession?

Of course I wouldn't expect someone with asburgers to be able to rationalise so i doubt I'll get reasoned comment from you to either of those questions, but lets see
I think you will find the phrase iSheep has been out a bit, it's not like I made this up and Jack here is a prime example.

He thinks he is on top of things here for some reason..
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Yes, it came out in 2008 when Apple had a massive market share compared to Android. It kind of made sense back then. Now it's just weird when in one breath you shout isheep and the next you're spouting 80% Android market share like it's something to be proud of.

I'm about to board a plane - they've mentioned not using Samsungs again.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Buy another, my old Mum can get away with using my cast off iPad 2 but at the end of the day it's 6 years old, that's staggering for a mobile device.
I can't top that My first generation iPad was gifted to my dad when I replaced it and he's still using it now (though it has been relegated to shed use for downloading manuals). It's even still in the original Apple case.
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Jack (and quite a few others here) are deluded and living on a cloud somewhere.

Jack's rant about Android being a cesspit being a clear example of how is losing his marbles. For a cesspit of an OS its doing remarkable well.

Gartner: Android’s smartphone marketshare hit 86.2% in Q2
Posted Aug 18, 2016 by Natasha Lomas (@riptari)


Apple on the other hand ....

Apple iPhone 7 Sales Hide A Serious Problem

The various data sets are all pointing to a similar conclusion around the weaker historical performance of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus...

The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are selling in numbers that any other smartphone manufacturer would desire, but the trend that Apple revealed back in its Q1 2016 earnings call is continuing. We are past peak iPhone, Apple’s smartphone sales are falling.

Ewan Spence , CONTRIBUTOR @ Forbes


To continue the downward slide they have been in.

But its ok, they have smarthpones that obliterate every other device in the planet in real world tests, right Jack.

The vast profits Apple have made are due in part to ripping off idiots for years with over priced devices, if I was said person I would probably behave like Jack here and rebuff everything said to me also.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
its ok Jack, we get it.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Yes, it came out in 2008 when Apple had a massive market share compared to Android. It kind of made sense back then. Now it's just weird when in one breath you shout isheep and the next you're spouting 80% Android market share like it's something to be proud of.

I'm about to board a plane - they've mentioned not using Samsungs again.
2008 = massive market share
2016 = -20 % market share

People want more from a device than over priced junk from iPhones.
That marvellous eco system doesnt look so good when you look at them figures does it Jack.

why dont you go work for Apple, you might be what they need.

Or simply hack into the Android OS, I am sure a clever man like you can do that easily to such a cesspit of a system.
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Originally Posted by toffee_pie
Jack's rant about Android being a cesspit being a clear example of how is losing his marbles. For a cesspit of an OS its doing remarkable well.

Gartner: Android’s smartphone marketshare hit 86.2% in Q2
Posted Aug 18, 2016 by Natasha Lomas (@riptari)


Apple on the other hand ....
here we go again.

So come on, how many of the vast number of different Android devices are actually any good? Having used a few, some of them are utter crap.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
here we go again.

So come on, how many of the vast number of different Android devices are actually any good? Having used a few, some of them are utter crap.
people are not forced to buy android, even you own one and had an iPhone before it which says it all.
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Last time I checked no one is forced to buy Apple either.
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looks like the majority dont......
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And how much of your majority even realise they've bought an Android device, let alone know (or indeed care) why it's supposed to be better?
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You're running anti malware software and I don't blame you, Android is a cesspit.


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