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Old 01 February 2016, 03:56 PM
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From around 3000rpm onwards, it should. Due to the broken MAF and possibly the cam position sensor, it wasn't/isn't switching from MAF based to SD.
See post above.

It's still required.
Old 01 February 2016, 05:22 PM
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For what reason? Does the Carberry require the maf to still be used?

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Old 02 February 2016, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Lol no.

EML came on on journey. Went off before dyno run. Came on during run. Car was in limp mode. In short, mapper and I diagnosed broken as **** MAF and cam position sensor, so running like a bag of dicks! Couldn't get it out of limp mode tonight either

Ordered the new MAF and sensor tonight. Provided they arrive by the weekend I'll try get back over on Sunday for a proper run ☺️

Still, 325bhp on limp mode at under a bar

Well not bad with under a bar and in limp mode. Looking forward to seeing this with some boost behind it.
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No one else spotted the fatal flaw in the post? That graph wouldnt be possible in limp mode
Old 03 February 2016, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
No one else spotted the fatal flaw in the post? That graph wouldnt be possible in limp mode
Thought they wouldn't rev past 3500/4000 in limp mode
Old 03 February 2016, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Thought they wouldn't rev past 3500/4000 in limp mode
yep, also thought it pulled the boost way back not 1bar
Old 03 February 2016, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
No one else spotted the fatal flaw in the post? That graph wouldnt be possible in limp mode
Yes I did hence my question about the so called maf problem...IMO it's just another eBay turbo doing what it does best....Laggy as ****, no boost and produces bugger all.

Buy cheap buy twice!
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Originally Posted by jayallen
Yes I did hence my question about the so called maf problem...IMO it's just another eBay turbo doing what it does best....Laggy as ****, no boost and produces bugger all.

Buy cheap buy twice!
Limp mode/boost cut - terminology, whatever.

Stick your uninformed opinions up your hoops until I get it fixed. I KNOW it works. And works well.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
For what reason? Does the Carberry require the maf to still be used?
It's MAF based, until 3000rpm. Where it switches to SD. Read the thread.
Old 03 February 2016, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Limp mode/boost cut - terminology, whatever.

Stick your uninformed opinions up your hoops until I get it fixed. I KNOW it works. And works well.
Hate to say it but the graph says otherwise, even on limited boost it should still spool well.

Mine is on low boost to preserve the gearbox, but still spools well

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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Hate to say it but the graph says otherwise, even on limited boost it should still spool well.

Mine is on low boost to preserve the gearbox, but still spools well

So you're telling me that my graph should be better with non-functioning/limited AVCS due to a broken cam position sensor, a broken MAF resulting in the car not entering speed density at the 3000rpm crossover and having no clue about the airflow? Aye OK.

This is why I hate Scoobynet. Every **** knows best! Peace out.
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
So you're telling me that my graph should be better with non-functioning/limited AVCS due to a broken cam position sensor, a broken MAF resulting in the car not entering speed density at the 3000rpm crossover and having no clue about the airflow? Aye OK.

This is why I hate Scoobynet. Every **** knows best! Peace out.
your stating you KNOW its making good results and then put up a crap graph and start claiming this isnt working that isnt working etc etc, say it's in limp mode, has broken sensors, isnt running the AVCs etc etc

You then spit yer dummy out when people state the obvious failings in what you say, simply put it looks like its run crap but you dont want to admit it.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
your stating you KNOW its making good results and then put up a crap graph and start claiming this isnt working that isnt working etc etc, say it's in limp mode, has broken sensors, isnt running the AVCs etc etc

You then spit yer dummy out when people state the obvious failings in what you say, simply put it looks like its run crap but you dont want to admit it.
What I KNOW. Is that it spooled and felt way better (and ****ing faster) than it does now, thanks to above mentioned faults.

What I spit the dummy out at, is belters on Scabbynet thinking they know the ins and outs of MY car. Having never sat in the ****, let alone driven it and telling me I am wrong...
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Serious question how come you didnt go completely mafless?
Old 03 February 2016, 12:31 PM
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Have you ever thought that perhaps it's what your saying people doubt? This isnt the first time people have come out with claims about this and that and prove to be full of crap. Theres alot of technical expertise on here so if you sprout waffle people will see through it in seconds
Old 03 February 2016, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Serious question how come you didnt go completely mafless?
My thoughts too...I dont use a maf either
Old 03 February 2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Serious question how come you didnt go completely mafless?
Keeping drivability and my mapper is new to Carberry. Plan is to eventually go MAFless

I really couldn't care if you doubt me, I know the cars not right. And that's all that matters
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Serious question how come you didnt go completely mafless?
This is why I asked him does the carberry room need the maf(maybe using an internal air temp sensor) to run SD Banny. Not having had the carberry I wasn't sure if it could go mafless because of the way his car is set up.

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ah ok makes sense but I will add my brother has JDM on carberry and it drives spot on being completely mafless
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Drive ability...they drive better on SD than OEM in my opinion for what it's worth
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
Drive ability...they drive better on SD than OEM in my opinion for what it's worth
It will be eventually, once my mapper gets completely used to it.
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Will you have the repair done for the weekend ??
Old 05 February 2016, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ian12
Will you have the repair done for the weekend ??
Hopefully. MAF has arrived at my house - unfortunately I'm away with work during the week but back home tonight or tomorrow! There's a spare cam position sensor at a friends garage, so hopefully get that at some point over the weekend too.

Update on other stuff: Cam position sensor is indeed knackered, disabling the AVCS and causing the car to limit boost to wastegate pres. - explains the ~1bar max on the dyno and lack of anything other than noise.

Will update further, when I get **** sorted

If these fail to fix, my next port of call will be the neutral postion sensor. Done some reading and on JDM (unsure on UK spec) cars, a broken/faulty NPS can cause the same symptoms as mine - no AVCS, lumpy running etc. Didn't have much time to read up on it, but there didn't seem to be that much detail out there on it?

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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Hopefully. MAF has arrived at my house - unfortunately I'm away with work during the week but back home tonight or tomorrow! There's a spare cam position sensor at a friends garage, so hopefully get that at some point over the weekend too.

Update on other stuff: Cam position sensor is indeed knackered, disabling the AVCS and causing the car to limit boost to wastegate pres. - explains the ~1bar max on the dyno and lack of anything other than noise.

Will update further, when I get **** sorted

If these fail to fix, my next port of call will be the neutral postion sensor. Done some reading and on JDM (unsure on UK spec) cars, a broken/faulty NPS can cause the same symptoms as mine - no AVCS, lumpy running etc. Didn't have much time to read up on it, but there didn't seem to be that much detail out there on it?
Manage to get it all sorted ??
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Originally Posted by ian12
Manage to get it all sorted ??
Partially

Another diagnosis/fixing session required!
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Partially

Another diagnosis/fixing session required!
What kind of issues you having?
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Originally Posted by ian12
What kind of issues you having?
Got AVCS functionality again - cam position sensor replaced.
Lumpy idle partially sorted - MAF replaced

Still not making boost as is should (i.e not making 1.5+ peak) - We're looking at the wastegate actuator and the possibility of leaky headers/up-pipe.

Will update as and when
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Got AVCS functionality again - cam position sensor replaced.
Lumpy idle partially sorted - MAF replaced

Still not making boost as is should (i.e not making 1.5+ peak) - We're looking at the wastegate actuator and the possibility of leaky headers/up-pipe.

Will update as and when
Managing to get the boost issue under control?????
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Originally Posted by ian12
Managing to get the boost issue under control?????
Awaiting a new actuator arriving, then when it arrives, we'll get the manifold/up-pipe off to check of cracks/leaks and heat wrap them at the same time as fitting the new actuator
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Originally Posted by Gooch89
Awaiting a new actuator arriving, then when it arrives, we'll get the manifold/up-pipe off to check of cracks/leaks and heat wrap them at the same time as fitting the new actuator
How much pre load are you running? will the boost not increase with more pre load? I am running a Chinese actuator off a Chinese 20g, it needs a good amount of pre load, but still works perfectly well.


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