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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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Did they supply a new actuator under warranty for you??
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 07:48 PM
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How much pre load are you running? will the boost not increase with more pre load? I am running a Chinese actuator off a Chinese 20g, it needs a good amount of pre load, but still works perfectly well.
1.8 bar peak and 1.5 held on a billet big 16g
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 10:00 AM
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Its just a cheap taiwanese crap unit.. doing what it does best, making lots of lag and frustrations... I am going to throw away mine.. nothing but problems with it.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Anko Dragt
Its just a cheap taiwanese crap unit.. doing what it does best, making lots of lag and frustrations... I am going to throw away mine.. nothing but problems with it.
What kind of issues did you have with yours ????
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Lag, Poor wastegate+actuator design... leaking wastegate, and the spoolup is just crap on a EJ20.... in 4th gear it takes all the way to 4000 before it hits full boost...
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:50 AM
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4k full boost on a 2.0 ?
I would have thought that was about right for a bigger turbo ?
Do you ave a frount mount ?
Is it a car with AVCS ?
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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That is in 4th gear... spoolup in 2nd or 3th gear is even worse... full boost @4800rpm. Topmount cooler, non avcs.. MY98 GC8.

there are turbos that deliver the same power but with 800rpm earlier spool time...
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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What kind of power ?
Stock Headers ?

I was looking at Kinugawa until i picked up a sc42 beast that was for sale on here

What turbos you say are better than kinugawa and close to the price ?
Not defending them just couldnt find any 'New' turbos that where reasonably priced.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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Dont know about the power.. but it is a decent amount faster than a buddy of mine with a vf35@ 320hp i'd guess about 360hp @ 1.45bar

OEM MHI turbos are cheap as well.

stock headers, no leaks.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
What turbos you say are better than kinugawa and close to the price ?
Not defending them just couldnt find any 'New' turbos that where reasonably priced.
Problem is in the way your thinking, turbos need to made to a high precision with high quality materials. Cheap turbos tend to be copies of more expensive turbos made to a lower tollerance meaning they tend to not perform as well.

Simply put they are cheap for a reason
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Problem is in the way your thinking, turbos need to made to a high precision with high quality materials. Cheap turbos tend to be copies of more expensive turbos made to a lower tollerance meaning they tend to not perform as well.

Simply put they are cheap for a reason
The only reason i didnt buy one was be ause there was so little info about them.
Went for an sc42 on the basis that the results were there to read.

But really who else makes them ?
Not that many out there you can buy brand new and bolt on ?
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
The only reason i didnt buy one was be ause there was so little info about them.
Went for an sc42 on the basis that the results were there to read.

But really who else makes them ?
Not that many out there you can buy brand new and bolt on ?
What the Chinese copy? Or the sc42?
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 09:13 AM
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I mean when i was looking for a decent TD05 18-20g
I was looking into them before i got my SC42
Couldnt really find anywhere that sold them brand new.
All i could find were ebay ones,

In the end i was gona settle for an older one and get it rebuilt here in the UK as id rather that than a chinese one for obvious reasons.

But i saw a very nice SC on this forum and just saved all the bother, it cost a fair bit more but as with everything you get what u pay for.

Sounds like this guy is having trouble with his fresh out the box which doesn't say great things about them.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Td05 are pretty old turbos. Not even sure if they really still made oem
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Td05 are pretty old turbos. Not even sure if they really still made oem
Its ancient turbo tech
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:37 PM
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How come the yanks get good figures from these turbos ???
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ian12
How come the yanks get good figures from these turbos ???
Yank hp is different to our hp.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:46 AM
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Yea the only place i could read anything bout them was on the us forums.
Be interesting to see what this one makes when its workin properly
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Yank hp is different to our hp.
What makes it different ??
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ian12
What makes it different ??
They use real world hp where as we use calculated pretend ***** waving hp ☺
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
They use real world hp where as we use calculated pretend ***** waving hp ☺
So there using WHP. So how come when these turbos are fitted over here people say there laggy and make no power. over there the results good...
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ian12
So there using WHP. So how come when these turbos are fitted over here people say there laggy and make no power. over there the results good...
American tuning is a lot different to UK tuning. They are innovating and carrying out a lot of mods people in the UK wouldn't.

UK tuning is treading water at best.

A well trodden path of fitting the same old parts, get the same old results.

Fit rcm headers, don't want to lose the burble (restrict power, but it's a safe option)

Fit fuel pump

Decat etc etc.

Fit decent supporting mods and push the boat out and do some innovation and you may get the results you are looking for.....
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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sorted any of your probs buddy. any news.
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Did this ever get Dynod at it's best ??
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Did this ever get Dynod at it's best ??
No disrespect fella but give on these cheap nasty turbo's that never deliver and buy something proven that delivers time after time after time..
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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None taken,

If you had read ^^^ , I actually went for an Owen Developments tinkered SC42. (Peer Pressure)

However i'm still curious as to what a kinugawa can actually make, seems most threads involving these end this way with no concrete results,
(Guess due to unhappy owners)

If its **** fair enough but without proof nobody knows.

But im sure if it had spooled by 3k and made 430bhp we would have heard by now
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
None taken,

If you had read ^^^ , I actually went for an Owen Developments tinkered SC42. (Peer Pressure)

However i'm still curious as to what a kinugawa can actually make, seems most threads involving these end this way with no concrete results,
(Guess due to unhappy owners)

If its **** fair enough but without proof nobody knows.

But im sure if it had spooled by 3k and made 430bhp we would have heard by now
I've been here long enough to see that these turbo's never deliver and even the one in the link at the start of the thread that made over 400bhp would be ******* horrible to live with....lag, lag, lag and more lag.

I've read threads where they don't make boost, die during mapping or only last 1000 miles. They are cheap for a reason and if they were any good UK tuners would be pushing them but they don't, speaks volumes IMO.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Yep can read here this already had a fault
Most things that sound too good to be true usually are

Well mines mapping tomorrow so will see if my money was well spent

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...let-turbo.html

I bought mine off this forum no idea what i will make.
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