neil-h

Yeah but the question still stands, how do you know what you find is factual. Given a spare afternoon I could find a reasonable collection of documents that all conclude the world is ruled by a secret master race of subterranean crab people, that doesn't make that information factual.

warrenm2

What I'm saying, as you didn't get it the first time, is that you claimed his early post about using Tails and Tor etc was goobldegook (sp?). It wasn't. It was clear to anyone who had a certain level of understanding about computers what he was saying.

You made a judgement, coming from a place of ignorance, on his post. You were wrong because you didn't understand it. You proceeded to press the point even whilst you were repeatedly corrected by a variety of other posters including myself. That reflects poorly on you

And Dozza replies to your point Neil in post 102. He accepts that there is misinformation around. What you accept to be true and how much you check it is up to you. Pretty much like anything else in life really

dpb

Does the dark web also contain all the missing stats Mr farridge / et al has for why were better off outside the eu ?

neil-h

Ah yeah, my bad. I got out of bed early and have been totally out of sink with the world ever since.

Paben

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How funny that you think I can be 'corrected' by you. What you don't understand is I couldn't care less regarding your views on information contained on dodgy web sites. The opinions there are obviously so debatable they are hidden away where they can only be accessed by nerds like you. Hardly the way to spread the word.

madscoob

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maybe maybe not but its easy enough to find all the hidden bad parts they intend bringing in after the referendum, like the foreign lorries charges being illegal and taking the uk to court over it, where as it costs a uk lorry £35ish per day to travel through belgium, but of course thats fair isn't it lol

warrenm2

I'll save petty Paben the effort and tell you it's "synch"...

warrenm2

No its where your missing IQ goes to hide from you

dpb

Ill take your word for it

warrenm2

OK I'm going with Dozza here, you're thick, and will remain so. You can go through life all you like ignoring other peoples opinions and "corrections". That's what being in a free country means. However you will never learn anything new, never be able to put things in context, never have the experience to evaluate things on balance, and never encourage people to help you reach new understandings. Bit sad really, you have the choice of choosing growth or ignorance, and you chose ignorance.

Have a nice life

Paben

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You know I think you're right, I must be thick. Why else would I waste time exchanging pleasantries with a know-all half wit like you?

hodgy0_2

Your quite right Paben

The point is these "views" are hidden away, not subject to any rational scrutiny

And when they actually surface they are so ludicrously flawed they are just laughable

They never reveal any sources except from equally dubious sources - the modern version of Chinese whispers

The mantra is always "do your own research"

And that's the point, anyone can have theses daft theories/views - it is after all a free country

Just don't expect anyone taking them seriously

DoZZa

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Examples of your own research to quantify your statement please. Only then can what you write be taken seriously.

hodgy0_2

I am not making any claims

sorry try again

hodgy0_2

unless you mean

the earth is round

evolution is real

we went to the moon

Sandy Hook was a mass shooting, not an inside job to remove mercans guns

the Boston Marathon bombing was the result if two lone lunatics - not an inside job

AGW IS real not a "climate hoax"

the Charlie Hebdo attacks where a result of islamist extremist - not an inside job

Rigby was killed by two lone lunatics - not an inside job

911 was a result of Saudi terrorists and the towers came down due a gravity led collapse - not an inside job

the London Bombings were lone home-grown terrorists - not an inside job

Chemtrails are simply contrails, not an attempt by the worlds governments to control us

the illuminati is NOT a real organisation - (consisting obviously of mainly Jews) to control the world

DoZZa

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Really, so what you have written in your previous post is valid or not?

You make use of the word point, surely the point you are referring to is something you have taken time to research and with your research you have evaluated the point.

But your not willing to quantify it, so I say again, what you write cant be taken seriously can it!

Look at each sentence you have written and try and understand why your statements cant be taken seriously.

Heres and example.

You write "They never reveal any sources except from equally dubious sources"

Now think about this for a brief moment, you mention that the sources are never revealed. Why do you think that is, I mean really, why?

It does not take a genius to work out that the source needs to protect their identity for obvious reasons.

But of course, if the BBC was the source, then of course its true. lol

Look at Edward Snowden, now in the company of the Russians, why do you think that is? Look at the bombshell of information that guy gave the world. And that was data that was fairly easy to obtain!

Remember Gary McKinnon? The US still want his extradition. And if that was to happen, how long before he winds up dead in a freak accident?

hodgy0_2

sure Snowdens revelations are a matter of public record and I don't doubt the veracity of them


and for what's its worth the extradition of Gary McKinnon is nothing more than an attempt at the US governments cynical attempt at papering over their disastrous lack of security

DoZZa

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Agree.

Agree

We did indeed, but we didnt just find lots of dust and moon rock. Why was there such a race to get to the moon?

Many people think otherwise, but personally have not taken the time to look deeper into it.

Agree

Global warming is the natural evolution of the planet.

Agree

Yes, but where where the lunatics from?

Please tell me where the debris from the plane that supposedly crashed into the Pentagon went.

Agree

Agree

Agree

DoZZa

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Thats just it, because Snowdens identity became public, all of a sudden everyone believes.

But how many other Snowdens or McKinnon's are there lurking in the halls of GCHQ or the Pentagon? What information could they possibly be in possession of?

hodgy0_2

well you will have to enlighten me - with evidence/sources please





Global warming (within the current timescales) IS primarily man made

climate always changes - that is simply a statement of fact, the current scientific debate is around mans influence and the planets ability to respond to the current CO2 forcing


err no doubt the killers were known to the security services (that is what they are there for after all - to track lunatics like Rigby's killers) they failed!! :-( I am sure all the men and women in the secret services feel terrible about it)

err it went in the building - simple physics, the wheels and engines where recovered from the building along with ALL the DNA of the passengers and other parts of the plane)

DoZZa

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Zoom in on the image and look under the forearm of the man, a NASA employee, Anthony Colapret.

What do you see?

He is still employed by NASA, click on his name for the proof you require. And read with interest his specific areas of work within NASA.


There is no doubt that humans have contributed to global warming, but to what extent is impossible to prove. But is what we have contributed for the last 60 to 70 years enough to cause damage to such an amazing, self healing planet?

Does the supposed engine match that of 757? No, it doesn't, its too small. A schoolboy error on the part of homeland security. As for the DNA evidence, again supplied by the US government. Therefore it is not valid.

hodgy0_2

genuinely nothing just a blurred photograph

what am I supposed to see - what is the exact claim?


ok, this is about the confusion over the engines compressor wheel and serial numbers, and linking them to aircraft wada wada - yes?

yes this is simply filed under - "evidence I can't explain - lets call it a conspiracy"

sorry but that does not pass muster

as I say - science is hard conspiracy theories are easy

science/investigation is about EXPLAINING evidence - not simply dismissing it

that is what flat earther's/anti evolutionists do

what they can't explain they simply ignore

hodgy0_2

also "self healing planet"

sure the planet has gone from a tropical paradise, with swamps at the poles to 3 mile ice sheets all over the entire globe

not sure how that helps humanity

hodgy0_2

Ah ok

The images under the forearm of a nasa scientist are Pictures of UFO's

http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/201...caught-on.html

Ok

Let me look into it

Is that it Dozza, anything else?

hodgy0_2

Interesting that you mention McKinnon

His area of interest was UFO's - that's what he hacked the pentagon for, he thought he would find evidence of UFO's

Is that your area of interest Dozza, UFO's

warrenm2

OK I zoomed in and saw presumably a picture of the lunar surface. There appears to be a square in the picture. I interpret that square as a computer generated icon of some kind. Is that what you are referring to? Oh and his job is investigating lunar craters

Geezer

And with that single statement you lost any credibility whatsoever. It highlights that you believe what you want to, not what the evidence shows you.

dpb

The title of King Conspiritard seems to be as big a lure as ever . Gary an Stipete must be on holiday so dozza has stepped in lol

Wurzel

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Scoobynet is truly amazing, we have gone from guns in America to moon bases and aircraft engines in only 5 pages

DoZZa

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Why, explain yourself, you can just make such a bold statement without backing it up. I say show me why I am wrong, then you have the right to question my credibility.

Glad you find it entertaining! Thanks for the title, lol.

He thought, or he did?

One of my main areas of interest are firmly based within the UFO phenomenon, but lets not get carried away, UFO does not necessarily mean aliens, it simply means something in the sky which cannot be identified, whether that be from another world or from this worlds military. Or indeed someone just having a bit of fun with a drone!

By the way, do not take what you see on UFOSightingsDaily seriously, the man who runs that site is a complete loon!

Back to the image of the moons surface. A square object is highly visible on the surface of the moon. A computer generated icon some say. Well, if this computer generated icon was meant to highlight something, then why would it be within the same shade range of the surface of the moon? Surely it would have been a different, brighter colour to aid recognition of the area it is supposed to be highlighting.